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Alan
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Where would you go?
Fire season usually ends about mid-Nov and my son gets laid off for the winter. Looking for suggestions for a 2 week trip starting the day after fire
season ends and before school starts for him. Plan to tow my 23' Striper. Camp or hotel but we really prefer camping and cooking our catch. We did Mag
Bay last year but never having been there we found we weren't prepared for it. Really needed to be prepared to camp at Santa Maria bay. I wasn't sure
about security setting up a beach camp there but couldn't afford to pay the $75/perday/per person with Mag Bay tours so we ended up in Loreto. I was
thinking Bahia de los Muertos but have never been there and don't know about launching there.
Bottom line is we are looking for some quality surface action. We both need to mark Wahoo off our list of fish to catch but would still be tickled
with larger tuna, dorado and some billfish for fun.
Where would you go?
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Don Alley
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Loreto fishing? By mid November dorado and billfish may become scarse. It's a bit late in the season for them. And Loreto is never the best location
for tuna or wahoo. For surface fishing, I've scored on roosters that time of year, but that can be spotty too. November is not really Loreto's best
fishing; you'll get more action farther south or maybe at Mag Bay.
There are places to camp cheap or for free near Loreto, such as Juncalito or Rattlesnake near Puerto Escondido, but in contemporary Baja things can
change quickly.
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pargo
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Juncalito
| Quote: | Originally posted by Don Alley
Loreto fishing? By mid November dorado and billfish may become scarse. It's a bit late in the season for them. And Loreto is never the best location
for tuna or wahoo. For surface fishing, I've scored on roosters that time of year, but that can be spotty too. November is not really Loreto's best
fishing; you'll get more action farther south or maybe at Mag Bay.
There are places to camp cheap or for free near Loreto, such as Juncalito or Rattlesnake near Puerto Escondido, but in contemporary Baja things can
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Don, Didn't they build some resort at Juncalito. Man I hope not. That place was gorgeous just the way it was.
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shari
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You would be very welcome here...our favorite visitors are firefighters...they have a blast here and it's just what they are looking for. Great
fishing, diving, playing, and no development!!!
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Bob H
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Alan
I was thinking Bahia de los Muertos but have never been there and don't know about launching there.
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Bahía de Los Muertos is now called Bahía de Los Sueños which is now a large development of very high priced custom homes, etc. I don't even think
you can get to the shoreline there, but I'm not sure. You will get lots of suggestions here. Have you ever thought of going down toward La Paz?
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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Hey Shari, I thought your favorite visitors were NOMADS ! 
We'll have to change that when we see you in January.
Los Muertos is being developed more all the time. There is a useable boat launch but I'm not sure it's always open to the public. There isn't really
anywhere to camp near the dock area as it's in the middle of the sales center/clubhouse area. Last time I was there, they had a gate across the ramp.
There are a few beach lauch spots and maybe still one concrete ramp in La Ventana which is about 30 minutes drive north of Muertos Bay. There are a
few camp spots, some gorilla camping, restaurants and essentials. Some guys last year stayed in La Ventana and trailered the boats to Muertos for
launching.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Alan
We did Mag Bay last year but never having been there we found we weren't prepared for it. Really needed to be prepared to camp at Santa Maria bay.
Bottom line is we are looking for some quality surface action. We both need to mark Wahoo off our list of fish to catch but would still be tickled
with larger tuna, dorado and some billfish for fun.
Where would you go? |
I have never been fishing at Mag Bay, but I have heard fishing friends rave about it and say it can't be beat. Mag Bay fishing is on my to-do list.
Now that you have been to Mag Bay once, I'm guessing it might easy to go a second time better prepared. I'm curious, what was your experience that
you were under prepared ??
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Alan
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I know November is a transition time for Loreto which is why I posed this question looking for somewhere else. We did have a blast with a bunch of
little roosters though.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Don Alley
Loreto fishing? By mid November dorado and billfish may become scarse. It's a bit late in the season for them. And Loreto is never the best location
for tuna or wahoo. For surface fishing, I've scored on roosters that time of year, but that can be spotty too. November is not really Loreto's best
fishing; you'll get more action farther south or maybe at Mag Bay.
There are places to camp cheap or for free near Loreto, such as Juncalito or Rattlesnake near Puerto Escondido, but in contemporary Baja things can
change quickly. |
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Alan
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
You would be very welcome here...our favorite visitors are firefighters...they have a blast here and it's just what they are looking for. Great
fishing, diving, playing, and no development!!! |
Actually my son and I are both firefighters. He works for the USFS and I work for a County Department. I have heard great things about Asuncion. Do
you have a launch ramp that willl handle a 23' deep vee boat? I've driven past the turnoff numerous times but didn't want to tow all of the way in
there then find out I couldn't launch.
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Alan
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob H
Bahía de Los Muertos is now called Bahía de Los Sueños which is now a large development of very high priced custom homes, etc. I don't even think
you can get to the shoreline there, but I'm not sure. You will get lots of suggestions here. Have you ever thought of going down toward La Paz?
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Actually the La Paz area seems like it would be most what I was looking for but I'm not that familiar with the area so was looking for help on where
to stay and where to launch.
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Alan
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
I have never been fishing at Mag Bay, but I have heard fishing friends rave about it and say it can't be beat. Mag Bay fishing is on my to-do list.
Now that you have been to Mag Bay once, I'm guessing it might easy to go a second time better prepared. I'm curious, what was your experience that
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The big issues were launching and getting in and out of the Bay which must be done at high tide. We launched from San Carlos because I didn't know of
any launch ramps in Puerto Lopez Mateo. High tide when we were there was about 9:00am so it would be well past dark for the next high tide to come
in so it was necessary to stay offshore at anchor in Santa Maria Bay. I had all my camping gear just in my pickup bed so I rented a room at the Hotel
Brennan to store it. We had a report that warm water was to the south so that is where we went instead of the Thetis as we had planned. Wrong move.
Radio reports indicated the fish were at the Thetis while we trolled a 100 mile loop to the south for nada. We spent the night on anchor at Santa
Maria Bay which looked like a great place to set up a beach camp but I don't know how secure our stuff would be while we were out fishing. We made
the run back to San Carlos in the morning. I also didn't feel real comfortable just leaving my truck parked at the ramp and don't know how secure it
would be if left alone for several days.
I would love to fish there again if I had a group of people with a couple of boats and a secure place to park our tow rigs.
[Edited on 10-4-2006 by Alan]
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Alan:In Loreto in the Past, there has been some very goodfishing to the South. Id Run South to Las Animas for lots of Tuna on the Surface, also
scattered Large Dorado. The only Wahoo I have seen has been at Catalana.
I Still Question the so-called Record supposedly caught off of Isla Carmen.
Skeet
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Don Alley
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| Quote: | Originally posted by pargo
Don, Didn't they build some resort at Juncalito. Man I hope not. That place was gorgeous just the way it was. |
No resort at Juncalito, nor have I heard any plans to build one, although I have heard Fonatur controls the "public" beach and that's not good.
Attempts to close the road to the beach last spring failed when the fence was torn down at least twice. For now it's still nice, if you don't mind the
gaggle of winter campers.
Farther south Playa Escondido is the site of a 2000 unit development by the Villas Group, and north at San Bruno hotels and golf is planned by a
Spanish developer. I am surprised Juncalito has not been gobbled up in the rush. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
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pargo
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Don, I'm probably mistaken about Juncalito..could it be Ligui that has been developed? I was there at one of those places and my buddy who was with me
at the time returned and found it not fully completed but development well underway.
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Hook
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I'd consider
San Lucas Cove, just south of Santa Rosalia.
The yellers should be there at the north end. Great group of guys there that will share info and/or just monitor 72. Clean camping with a good shower
complex.
And if the north winds havent started in force, there could still be warm water species around.
You will have to launch that boat at high tide but the tides are high in the AM for most all of November.
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chino
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Alan,
I'm sure that you guys will have a good time wherever you go, I havent had a trip down yet that we didnt have a ball, and when compared to the fire
season we've had in CA any trip would be a good one!. We finally have hsad some rain in N/W CA and the 2 and 1/2 month long fire is starting to roll
over, Bien Viajes
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Alan
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chino
Alan,
I'm sure that you guys will have a good time wherever you go, I havent had a trip down yet that we didnt have a ball, and when compared to the fire
season we've had in CA any trip would be a good one!. We finally have hsad some rain in N/W CA and the 2 and 1/2 month long fire is starting to roll
over, Bien Viajes |
Ahhh Yes. The good old Bar Fire Complex. I think that one is going to take a season ending rain before it finally goes out. A friend of mine just
left Monday to go up and take over the management of that one. As he puts it "He's been selected to close the bar". We still have to get through the
Santa Ana's before we call our season here in SoCal.
You're right. Baja is Baja but it's not always good. Some times it is absolutely great! With my schedule I get a chance to get out and fish during
the summer but he has different days off if he even gets them so he misses most of the surface season here. I just want to put him on quality fish
that will pull back.
I think everything north of La Paz on the SoC is usually in transition at that time. I'm really thinking another shot at Mag Bay is in order for at
least a couple of days then on to La Paz. I'm going to contact Mag Bay Tours to see if I can arrange parking for my truck and then either stay on the
boat or set up a camp at Santa Maria Bay. So what are some places in La Paz I should be looking at?
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chino
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Alan,
We did the north end of mag bay last winter with small boats and kayaks we never attempted the outside and caught and released a ridiculous amount of
Grouper, Corbina and assorted others, also the surf fishing was incredable out at the "bocas"
Is your friend on the bar Rocky O?
Good luck, be safe!
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Alan
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chino
Is your friend on the bar Rocky O?
Good luck, be safe! |
Bingo! Do you know him? He and I just got out a couple of weeks ago for a day between fire assignments. Picked up 3 local dorado not even 5 miles
off the beach. Are you on the Shasta-T?
[Edited on 10-5-2006 by Alan]
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Please let us know how you fair with Mag Bay Tours, if you go that route. But I think they can direct you to safe parking in PSC at the Brennan.
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