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| San Nicolas Toletino, Actopan, Hidalgo 
 
 
 
 
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| Mural in the Open CHapel at Actopan 
 
 
 
 
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| Mural in the Open Chapel at Actopan 
 
 
 
 
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| Another view of the mural 
 
 
 
 
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 Excellent!  Got pix of the Ixmiquilpan murals?
 
 
 
 
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 Robert, the forum is "Baja Historic Interests & Literature "... so please connect the beautiful Mexican chuches to the missions of Baja some
how... and do continue to share your photos!
 
 By the way, a lady searching for details of her great, great grandfather (Fernando de la Toba) found the photos Jack Swords took of de la Toba's grave
in my web site... I sent her email to Jack and he suggested you may have something to add... Is your hotmail address still good?
 
 Jacks historic Baja photos are at: http://vivabaja.com/swords
 
 Here is de la Toba's grave, near Rancho la Presa. He was a governor of southern Baja California...
 
 
  
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 We weren't able to get into the church, which was closed. They had just completed a quincenera the day we visited, which was Saturday afternoon. But
did get shots of other murals at Actopan.
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 David. I did get the e-mail. She probably should consult Los californianos, which is a California pre-1850 genealogical organization. The 16th century
central Mexican convents, as you know, were precursors to the northern missions, including the Baja California missions.
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by academicanarchist The 16th century central Mexican convents, as you know, were precursors to the northern missions, including the Baja California missions.
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 That's a good enough link for me, please continue.  Apparently some think "THE BAJA" (odious and stupid term) was created as a playground for gringos
and is not a part of...HELLOOO!,  MEXICO!
   
 
 
 
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 Oso, it's not my forum... I just wanted Robert to connect all his mainland photos to Baja to stay 'on topic'... Don't want a moderator to move it to
the 'non-Baja' aka 'Off Topic' forum here!
   
 
 
 
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 Agreed there.  That short rant was not directed at you, David, and I hope your suggestion is good enough for the moment.  The fact is that we waste a
huge amount of space on crap not remotely connected to the MEXICAN states of Baja California and Baja California Sur.  Thankfully, most of the idiotic
feces-flinging between repugnants and demorats is confined to off-topic with some spillover.  But to me, ANYTHING about Mexico has infinitely more
relevance to B.C and B.C.S. than U.S. politics does.  I would definitely not like to see these beautiful photos lost among the dungheaps of off-topic.
 
 We have so many specialized forums already, would it hurt to have one set aside for "Mainland Mexico"?
 
 
 
 
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