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Martyman
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How do I get scallops?
Heading down in a couple weeks. Can I skin dive for scallops? How do you get them? Won't be buying them
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Martyman
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Bruce R Leech
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you cant take them legally
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bancoduo
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Walk around barefoot in Concepcion bay and they will find you.
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Skipjack Joe
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The best harvesting is done during a low tide. Venture out during the lowest tide of the day. The lowest low tide of the month will bring even better
results.
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Diver
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I have NEVER seen such a thing in Baja, honest !?
But if you see any, make sure to peel the muscle sheath and pound them a bit to tenderize. They're not the same as back home.
I have bought them from vendors on the beaches in Conception and from a fish store in Constitution.
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Cypress
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First, you catch a stingray, then punch out some plugs with a sharpened piece of pipe, Remove skin. Scallops.
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bancoduo
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Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
First, you catch a stingray, then punch out some plugs with a sharpened piece of pipe, Remove skin. Scallops. | Ya gotta do what ya gotta do to make a $.
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bajajudy
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In order to use Cypress' recipe, you must first wrestle an alligator.
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dean miller
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#1 If you don't know to harvest a scallop by now forget "diving" for them!
#2 There are numerous type of scallops; some free swimming, ie small bay scallops, some are attached to rocks ie large rock scallops.
#3 They are illegal to harvest in Mexico
#4 Support the local economy -- purchase them from a local diver who makes a living diving for Scallops
#5 Take a class in UW hunting upon your return or join an established diving/hunting club when you return--Go to Catalina and practice.
dm
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bigzaggin
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Dean ... I am, respectfully, confused.
Are they illegal to harvest or should I buy them from a local or both? Not that I have ever been offered scallops in Baja...
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Bruce R Leech
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locals can get a license to take them and you cant
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Bob and Susan
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the BEST way to get them is to look for a pickup with a cooler in the back
always fresh!!!
we just caught some shrimp from one of the pickups yesterday in front of the grocery store ummmm!!!
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Mike Supino
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Scallops are in abundance in Bahia Gonzaga.
Have a local obtain them for you.
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Von
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Get the broiled butter ready!
READY SET.....................
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jerry
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be very carfull when harvisting scallops in conseption if your not you will bleed to death
there like razors on top cut righ throu gloves and booties
but very sweet to eat best raw right out of the shell besides no evadence
jerry and judi
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dean miller
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Quote: | bigzaggin
"... I am, respectfully, confused.
Are they illegal to harvest or should I buy them from a local or both? Not that I have ever been offered scallops in Baja.."]
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I will attempt reply and clarify ...
They are illegal for Gringos to harvest them.
Mexico (has?) (had ?) unique marine harvesting laws.
Companies, Co-ops, individuals, lease a certain portion of beach front and all the marine life that can be harvested from that area. Often it is for
a specific product; fish, squid lobsters clams, etc. The harvestors, like a big vaccum cleaner remove the contacted items with out foresight as to
size, breeding habits, or seasons or the long term consquences of their actions.
Therefore, when a Gringo is offered a particular item, fish, lobster, scallops, etc it has been removed--liberated - from a company, Co-op or an
individual who contacted and paid the Mexican goverment for the right to these products, it is a good bet the seller obtained the items illegally.
Yes, every one on this board has been offered marine life, Lobsters, Oysters,Scallops etc by a Mexican national operating out of the back of his pick
up.
He aquired it illegally; he is selling it illegally and you as the purchaser are buying it illegally.
And No you may not collect $200.00 but may go right to Jail
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MrBillM
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Gonzaga Bay Scallops
My only experience with harvesting Scallops was in Gonzaga Bay in the late 70s. At that time they were abundant and, per Mike, they are now. As said
earlier, go at the lowest tide so you're not diving so deep. The first time we went out with no knowledge at all, we would try and pry the entire
shell off of the rocks. Hard work. We then went out with a neighbor in Gonzaga who dove only with a large dive knife and a net bag. He would dive
down, find one with the shell barely open, quickly slide the knife into the gap and break the shell backwards, then slice the meat out of the shell
portion attached to the rock. Cool and Quick.
Periodically here in Percebu, a fisherman would come by selling scallops. We bought some Once. They were really tough and I
remarked that they were not anything like what we had harvested or tasted elsewhere. It was after that I read an article about the fishermen catching
Stingray and using a cookie cutter to make "Scallops". I haven't bought any since.
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rts551
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Quote: | Originally posted by dean miller
Quote: | bigzaggin
"... I am, respectfully, confused.
Are they illegal to harvest or should I buy them from a local or both? Not that I have ever been offered scallops in Baja.."]
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I will attempt reply and clarify ...
They are illegal for Gringos to harvest them.
Mexico (has?) (had ?) unique marine harvesting laws.
Companies, Co-ops, individuals, lease a certain portion of beach front and all the marine life that can be harvested from that area. Often it is for
a specific product; fish, squid lobsters clams, etc. The harvestors, like a big vaccum cleaner remove the contacted items with out foresight as to
size, breeding habits, or seasons or the long term consquences of their actions.
Therefore, when a Gringo is offered a particular item, fish, lobster, scallops, etc it has been removed--liberated - from a company, Co-op or an
individual who contacted and paid the Mexican goverment for the right to these products, it is a good bet the seller obtained the items illegally.
Yes, every one on this board has been offered marine life, Lobsters, Oysters,Scallops etc by a Mexican national operating out of the back of his pick
up.
He aquired it illegally; he is selling it illegally and you as the purchaser are buying it illegally.
And No you may not collect $200.00 but may go right to Jail
DM |
While quite true of some areas, I know that in Abreojos the coop has been very good at not over fishing the cream of their crop.. Lobster and
Abaone. Not only are seasons adhered to but they limit the take to a certain number of kilos. Written up in a number of magazines for their efforts.
I believe a lot of the Pacific coast coops are following suit. Fish are a different story. |
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dean miller
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Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
"...Periodically here in Percebu, a fisherman would come by selling scallops. We bought some Once. They were really tough and I remarked that they
were not anything like what we had harvested or tasted elsewhere. It was after that I read an article about the fishermen catching Stingray and using
a cookie cutter to make "Scallops". I haven't bought any since." |
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fish.
1)Scallops are very high in "Glycogen." Those who can recall their freshmen high schoool bio class will recall that glycogen is also known as blood
sugar. The Blood sugar contained in a true scallop provides the scallop with it's sweet nutty flavor, either raw or cooked.
2) The "liqueur" (aka blood) of a scallop is always sweeter and some what clear.
3) The meat is generally tender and free of muscle mass, other than the ocasional abductor muscle that is often left attatched to the meat.
The subsitute meat;
1) Will be bland and not be sweet or have a nutty flavor, raw or cooked. A good way to test is to bite a peice of the meet. You will recognize the
difference.
2) The liquor is opaque, and certianly not sweet to the taste.
3) Often there is a muscle mass in the meat. It will be very tough and frimly attatched.
It should be noted that this substition of meat is not limited to the scallops sold on the beach in Mexico. Ask your American (Perhaps Canadian)
butcher, or fish monger the FDA difference between SEA Scallops and OCEAN Scallops.
dm
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Skeet/Loreto
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Cypress: It is not a Stringray that is used to Punch-Out Scallops:
Many, many years ago in the place where Shari now resides, there was a Factory where women and Children were employed to "Punch-out Scallops for the
Commerical Maket;
Giant Pacific Skates were caught and used. The Japanese would sometime Apply a small enzime to the Meat and sell it to the States as Lobster!
That was when Fish and Chip places first started showing up in California.Later there was a Big Row about it and the Fish places had to Post a very
small Decal at the entrance stating that the Fish being served could be of the Skate/Shark Meat.
Skeet
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