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tigerdog
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Oh. My. God. Punta Chivato
There goes the neighborhood. As reported in the Gringo Gazette (Southern Edition): A group of foreign and Mexican investors presented Governor
Narciso Agundez with their $600-million project to develop a tourist resort near Mulege, which is about a seven-hour drive north of Cabo on the Sea of
Cortez.
The project will be at Punta Chivato, on the north point of Concepcion Bay, and will be named, guess what? Punta Chivato Resort. It will feature a
golf club, marina and cruise ship dock.
Maybe you guys already know about this? Anyone have more information to share?
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Don Alley
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You seem shocked, or at least surprised. Why?
I'll be surprised when I see that portions of the Baja coastline are designated for parkland or other undeveloped public use.
You can only hope that the developers lock up the property, but fail to develop it because of a lack of investment capital or failure to get needed
government infrastructure assistance.
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Russ
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No more info about the articule. I did read it. But .... We have had scares like this in the past. Shell Beach/Punta Chivato still doesn't have a good
water system. Most of this beach is having water trucked in. Several plans for a line from the hwy were in the works but nothing was ever done or even
started. And there is no power or phone. Now you add the golf course and development. And the big vegtable farm in Palo Verde never made it. And think
about the road in? I'm not too concerned right now. But it would distroy the piece here for sure! Pray for this to FAIL!!
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Russ
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Don That's what I tried to say. Right on!
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tigerdog
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Don Alley
You seem shocked, or at least surprised. Why? |
Not shocked, just dismayed. I hope this falls through, not just because of the development aspect but because of the threat it (and so many others
like it) present to the fragile ecosystem of Baja.
After the "success" of Los Cabos, it was only a matter of time before the greedy began to eyeball the rest of the peninsula. I know that, but I don't
have to like it.
Does that make me one of those I've-got-mine- so-everyone-else- stay- out people? Sigh.
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Bruce R Leech
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this is nothing new, it happens every 2 years or so. they have fancy pictures and plans. and they get lots of investors and then they are goon.
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Bruce R Leech
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if you read it in the Gringo Gazette then you know it is wrong
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Skeet/Loreto
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Relax!!!
On my first trip to Chivato, there was one old run down Hotel, infested with bugs and Mice, a Cessna 310 buried in about 25 Ft. of Water off the Point
of the South end of the Small Strip, a couple of Palapas.
Later on another visit driving down the "Worst Road in Baja Sur" I observed that things had Changed- Told that the "Seattle Mafia" had descended onto
Chivato. New Homes, upscale living, etc.
Chivato is Nice, but suffers the same problem as other Locations--WATER-WATER-!!
The Gasette Articles are designed to do just as they did to You and others: They play on your FEAR-get you all Het Up for nothing, that gets them
Publicity designed to make you beleive that you must hurry to your Bank- Run down and buy a lot for many Dollars--- Still no Water.
Investigate before you React
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MrBillM
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Progress ?
Bruce:
"this is nothing new, it happens every 2 years or so. they have fancy pictures and plans. and they get lots of investors and then they are goon."
That's what we Used to say in the San Felipe Area after seeing one project after another start up and go bust.
We don't say it anymore.
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toneart
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We met with the governor in Mulege. He met with the business community and also the North Americans. His immediate concern was to get Mulege cleaned
up and back on its feet, economically. Upon learning that The Orchard still had toxic mud piled up in the roads inside, and also along the river road,
he had a front loader and a dump truck in there the next day.
He also proposed promoting Mulege as a sportsfishing destination, and building a Malecon & breakwater, extending from town and down the north
river road. Regarding dredging the river, he said that would be costly and to consider it a long-term project.
During those meetings I didn't hear any mention of Punta Chivato. That's not to say that it wasn't discussed in another venue. By the way, what is the
current status of the Loreto Bay Project? How does that help/hurt the town of Loreto?
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
We met with the governor in Mulege. He met with the business community and also the North Americans. His immediate concern was to get Mulege cleaned
up and back on its feet, economically. Upon learning that The Orchard still had toxic mud piled up in the roads inside, and also along the river road,
he had a front loader and a dump truck in there the next day.
He also proposed promoting Mulege as a sportsfishing destination, and building a Malecon & breakwater, extending from town and down the north
river road. Regarding dredging the river, he said that would be costly and to consider it a long-term project.
During those meetings I didn't hear any mention of Punta Chivato. That's not to say that it wasn't discussed in another venue. By the way, what is the
current status of the Loreto Bay Project? How does that help/hurt the town of Loreto?
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toneart you have a better chance of Punta Chivato being developed than the governor keeping his promises. I hope you are not holding your breath.
Bruce R Leech
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DENNIS
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600 million wont get anything done on the scale you say is reported.
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One nice thing!
You can never experience the loss of something you never knew existed.
Think about it.
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Don Alley
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
By the way, what is the current status of the Loreto Bay Project? How does that help/hurt the town of Loreto?
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Well, the LB project is building, building, building. There are always rumors of their success, as well as rumors of their imminent demise. But there
are about 800-1,000 workers down there building away. So far no signs of any "sustainability" construction for water or power, though.
The impact on Loreto? Lots more people, 5,000 more in the last two-three years, according to the mayor. More money, more activity directly and
indirectly related to LB. More employment, more stores, more restaurants, more small hotels. More traffic, more crime, higher prices for land, labor,
construction materials, almost everything else. A new gas station. Even Bancomer is remodeling and expanding. Rumors abound of a CCC supermarket, a
Ley supermarket, and a stop on the next Rolling Stones tour. It's a boom town!
And Mulage is next.
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Well what are you gonna' do about it anyway?, enjoy it while you can, Look how much So. Cal. has grown, the key is the water (money), and the
population to buy it,
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well, its a great location if they can pull it off. i'd like to see the strip improved like PP east cape. and some nice lots with power and water from
the road. maybe some mini golf to start.
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Destiny
God gave the Third-World countries well-located land so that others, with money, could develop it and bring pleasure to financially secure visitors.
Or so it seems.
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spike
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Feels like paradise lost. (or at least working on it)
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I wonder when they'll realize their shortsightedness. How many rooms and golf resorts do they think Baja visitors can support? I'd like to know the
average vacancy rate in Cabo and La Paz, et al. I'm heading for Costa Rica in November. Decent rooms are $40 - on the edge of jungle, beaches, with
actual wildlife. Do they think Baja is the only choice for vacationers? Developers really need to take a look forward - not backward - which is what
they seem to want to emulate - the mistakes of Cabo San Lucas. a golf course and a marina - yada, yada
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They can always convert the golfing greens to pastures.
wilderone. Let me know how the Costa Rica turns out. Have thought about that
also.
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