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Timbercrete
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RV Purchase Question
I know there is alot of RVers on this board and was wondering if some of you might be able to give me some insite.
I just returned from the Southern California RV show in Pomona. Besided being throughly confused on different models and types, we are wondering how
deep can you grind the sales price on new RVs. These dealers state that you can only get the good deals at these shows (sounds like BS to me). Then
I have heard individuals say you can get 30% off the MSRP (which has its own BS sound to it). What is the experience you folks have seen? What
should I expect and what minimun should I settle for? I have alway done well on car and truck purchases, but everyone says RV purchases are very
different.
Thank you in advance for everyone that can offer some guidance.
Will
\"He, who farts in church,
Must sit in own pew\"
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Hook
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I hope you're looking at used ones cause there are a ton of them out there since gas/diesel went over 2.00/gallon. A low mileage used RV can be better
than new because of all the custom options that people like to do to them.
Cant help you with salemen.........I've only bought them from private parties.
But I dont think there's really THAT many RV owners around here, if you exclude cabovers, pop-ups, tent trailers, etc. I think you'd be better off
registering over at this group of forums. They are very active.
http://www.trailerlife.com/cforum/index.cfm
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Al G
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http://www.escapees.com/
http://www.rv.net/
My choice is Winnebago/Ithaca price to value can not , will not be beat. Top of line only though. Just play hard ball. They, like everyone, have a
limit. May take a few times to find out what it is.
[Edited on 10-23-2006 by Al G]
Albert G
Remember, if you haven\'t got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart, then you are just a sour old fart!....
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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Iflyfish
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We have an 06 24' Winnie View 5cyl diesel, 16/19 mpg. We love our View. I am on a list of 1200 folks either owniing or wanting one. Look for twenty
five percent off MLP new and you are probably about right. Also good advice about buying used. Lots of people buy and never use them. Stand your
ground. There are lots of dealers around.
Iflyfish
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jorgie
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Just bought a 'used' 33 fter. When I started looking folks told me to look for a unit ex top of line and owned by the original buyers for some years.
Seems RVs sit a lot and get 'babied' by owners. This one had been fully broight to 'new' status including drive train etc. For my intended use it is
able to do it all and cost me less than an auto.....Hook is right, they are out there and are the best buy but it takes looking and best done direct
with owner. Good luck.
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Hook
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When looking used, if a gasser is OK, dont discount the fuel injected Ford models from the mid/late 90s that used the V-10. They are pretty efficient
for a gasser and very peppy. You can realize 8-10mpg which doesnt sound like alot but the cost of the RV that gets above 12-13 goes up dramatically.
It will often take years to realize the savings in fuel economy, especially with diesel now higher in the states than gas and the increased costs of
maintenance on a diesel.
As far as I know, class C RVs still cannot legally tow more than 3500#.
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Bajajorge
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Without a trade in you can knock the price of a new RV down by 20-25% off MSRP with ease. Bought used once. Never again, The 2 year old coach had more
hidden problems than Carter had pills. The only thing that saved me was the $1500 extended warranty I bought with it.
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chino
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Warning on the used RV, I bought a camper used from a dealer and some water damage was undetected and undisclosed, next time I will take it to a third
party RV mech. to look it over, still kicking myself.
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Hook
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Buying used involves risk. For that matter, buying new involves risk, too. Assembly line blems and other issues that, while covered by warranty, take
time to address. Most of those bugs have also been worked out by a previous owner.
One thing keeps me coming back to used vehicles; whether they be boats, cars or RVs. Saving in the neighborhood of 10-20k or more on a purchase or
avoiding monthly payments goes a LONG ways towards any repair issues that may crop up on a used vehicle.
Do your due dilligence. Inspect the interior of ALL CABINETS and storage areas for water damage. It is hard to hide water staining. Buy from a private
party that keeps all receipts and is clearly anal about maintenance. They are out there and not that rare.
Patience is a worthy trait when shopping for vehicles.
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Cypress
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Hook, Agree with you 100%. Folks ought to frame the "sticker price" taped
to new vehicles, boats, whatever.. It's more valuable than most works of art. New purchase warranties aren't worth the paper they're printed on.
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Timbercrete
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Thank you all for the great information. I feel the same way on buying used as most of you. My better half likes a floor plan on one of the 2007.
Thats why we are looking at new. I do believe she will want to go used as she will see the saved $$$. Thanks again.
\"He, who farts in church,
Must sit in own pew\"
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jorgie
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the Blue Book is a good guide. Buying "used" under Blue Book value from an owner who has applied a few years of TLC to the RV can be savings for years
of RVing. Again, good luck....
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bajarich
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I recently met a couple from Alaska who had one of those new Winebagos that are built on a Dodge Sprinter chasis. I asked them how they liked it and
they said that they got 18 mpg. They also said they were very disappointed because for as much as they paid for it, it was made very cheaply inside
and they were continually fixing things. They said they thought that because it was a Winnebago, it would have been made better.
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Bob H
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Iflyfish
We have an 06 24' Winnie View 5cyl diesel, 16/19 mpg. Iflyfish |
That View does look nice! Mercedes diesel engine. Here are some great photos of this unit.
http://www.winnebagoind.com/products/winnebago/view/
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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jimgrms
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does any one make a sprinter just as a camper van ??
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jimgrms
does any one make a sprinter just as a camper van ?? |
here is one Jim
http://www.roadtrek.com/news_detail.asp?ID=47&fromPage=
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Bajamatic
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yep
| Quote: | Originally posted by jimgrms
does any one make a sprinter just as a camper van ?? |
sportsmobile.com
[Edited on 10-24-2006 by Bajamatic]
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jimgrms
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thanks Bruce and Bajamatic i will check those out looked at some last year at the rv show in denver and will go back this year , they are
proably to rich for my blood , but it is fun to look
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Timbercrete
Thank you all for the great information. I feel the same way on buying used as most of you. My better half likes a floor plan on one of the 2007.
Thats why we are looking at new. I do believe she will want to go used as she will see the saved $$$. Thanks again. |
What floorplan is she in love with? Not too much new, under the sun, in layouts really. Are you guys looking at class C or A, TTs, 5ers or ?
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meme
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Roadtrek will cost youBIG BUcks even used!
If I were you Jim I would take a look online at Craigs List!
We have done lotsa business with people on CL over the past year!
AND it's easier than Ebay!!
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