Bruce R Leech
Elite Nomad
Posts: 6796
Registered: 9-20-2004
Location: Ensenada formerly Mulege
Member Is Offline
Mood: A lot cooler than Mulege
|
|
unprofessional Real estate sales people
I have always had to laugh at the unprofessional Real estate sales people that we have in some parts of Baja Sur. but after dealing with some of the
large firms in Ensenada I can say without reservation that even our small real estate co.s here in Mulege beat them hands down. I don't know how
those big co,s in the north can allow there co.s to be represented by such unprofessional Real estate sales people. 
there offices are so pathetic and dirty , some don't even have a char for you to set on while you are waiting. and some don't even have an office or a
car to meet you in.
I am only writing this to see if anyone else has noticed the same thing or if I was just unlucky and got the weirdos.
[Edited on 10-24-2006 by Bruce R Leech]
Bruce R Leech
Ensenada
 |
|
|
vgabndo
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 3461
Registered: 12-8-2003
Location: Mt. Shasta, CA
Member Is Offline
Mood: Checking-off my bucket list.
|
|
It isn't just in Baja Bruce. As a Certified Home Inspector I'm in realty offices in NorCal all the time. A few months ago I took business cards and
brochures to an office where the Broker was sitting at his desk with an open beer and a lighted cigarette at 9:30 in the morning on a Tuesday. He DID
have a chair if I'd had any interest in staying. 
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
|
|
|
Oso
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 2637
Registered: 8-29-2003
Location: on da border
Member Is Offline
Mood: wait and see
|
|
After a number of years helping people who would otherwise never own a home get Farmers Home loans and taking all the community college courses in RE,
I was knowledgeable enough and had "equivalent experience" enough to go straight for the CA Broker's exam without the Salespeep license first. It was
mainly just another thing to add to my resume. Then I made the horrible mistake of actually trying my hand in the biz. I was a miserable failure. I
soon learned that all that knowledge; "mudsill", "Deed of Trust" etc. meant absolutely nothing. I met a few good, decent people in the trade, but
most of them were slime I wouldn't want to set foot in my front yard. Those who made money were simply good salesmen. It didn't matter if it was
houses, cars, vacuum cleaners or aluminum siding. It's all about selling, period. Even having a legitimate "Realtor" designation in the states is no
guarantee. The RE Commission newsletters in every state are full of "disciplinary action" reports every month. In Mexico it's worse. The "Realtor"
designation is an accommodation for people who are not even licensed at all and there is no regulatory commission of any kind. You're on your own.
Want to find an "honest" professional to help you buy property? Long, thorough research into the community, all the people you can find that have
ever dealt with the person, is your only hope and then you're still rolling the dice. Buena Suerte.
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
|
|
|
vgabndo
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 3461
Registered: 12-8-2003
Location: Mt. Shasta, CA
Member Is Offline
Mood: Checking-off my bucket list.
|
|
Oso, I'm coming to the conclusion that your assessment of realtors is correct. One thing has become quite clear. I work for the buyer. (98% of the
time) I have, as you have said, no dog in the fight. My liability, if I had nothing else, demands that I be completely forthcoming and thorough in my
findings on any given property. I find that month in and month out I have fewer real estate "professionals" who like me.
I guess I must be doing a good job for my clients.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
|
|
|
Osprey
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 3694
Registered: 5-23-2004
Location: Baja Ca. Sur
Member Is Offline
|
|
Oso, I went to the time and trouble to become a licensee in Nevada but I never used the license. When I saw my successful salespeople contemporaries
careing more about the $ then being "open and honest" in every transaction I gave it up. Down here the realtors blame their failings on "the system",
the buyers, the notarios, etc. etc. but if they were really professionals they could make money while being faithful to the creed if they worked hard
-- some do, most don't.
|
|
|
jimgrms
Senior Nomad
Posts: 664
Registered: 9-30-2005
Location: oceanside ca
Member Is Offline
Mood: its always good
|
|
A new scam in colorado and proqadly elsewere i a realtor representing a buyer , after you sign with them they show houses and if you buy even if
through another ,your realtor gets a complety seperate commision 11% on a new house and 6% on a used house ,and that is above and beyound the
listing realters commission. i made the mistake of signing with one a 90 day contract but ended up waiting for the 90 days to expire before i
bought, he was very upsetthat i would not resign with him , i must have been out of my mind the first time he would have got 28 000 in commision
and he showed me 4 houses all more than i could afford , that has been 3 or 4 years ago and don't think it worked as don't hear of it anymore
|
|
|
Oso
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 2637
Registered: 8-29-2003
Location: on da border
Member Is Offline
Mood: wait and see
|
|
Legitimate Buyer's Brokers do exist, but the one Jim dealt with doesn't sound like one. Laws differ from state to state, but traditionally ALL RE
salespeople were by law, agents of the seller and duty bound to operate in the best interest of the seller regardless of who had the listing and who
profferred the offer.
Many types of contract exist, the best are centered on a flat fee to find a home within the parameters of price and amenities, location etc. set by
the buyer/client. If a commission is involved, the agent is still really working for the seller.
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
|
|
|
rogerj1
Nomad
Posts: 265
Registered: 4-29-2004
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Member Is Offline
|
|
I've always thought good sales people come across as motivators rather than product pusher.
|
|
|
Bajaboy
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 4375
Registered: 10-9-2003
Location: Bahia Asuncion, BCS, Mexico
Member Is Offline
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by Oso
Legitimate Buyer's Brokers do exist, but the one Jim dealt with doesn't sound like one. Laws differ from state to state, but traditionally ALL RE
salespeople were by law, agents of the seller and duty bound to operate in the best interest of the seller regardless of who had the listing and who
profferred the offer.
Many types of contract exist, the best are centered on a flat fee to find a home within the parameters of price and amenities, location etc. set by
the buyer/client. If a commission is involved, the agent is still really working for the seller. |
In my opinion, as long as agents get paid on commission versus a flat rate, they will always be working for the commission and not the buyer. There
should not be a huge difference in effort in selling/buying a $100k house versus a $400k house. I feel a flat fee for services rendered would produce
much less (apparent) conflict of interest on the agent's part.
The same holds true for compensation of lenders/mtg brokers in my opinion. Can you imagine if appraisers were paid on commission?
Zac
|
|
|
Oso
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 2637
Registered: 8-29-2003
Location: on da border
Member Is Offline
Mood: wait and see
|
|
MAI = "Made As Instructed"
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
|
|
|
Oso
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 2637
Registered: 8-29-2003
Location: on da border
Member Is Offline
Mood: wait and see
|
|
BTW, almost forgot... If you want to know the origin of "Realtor", read Babbitt by Sinclair Lewis.
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
|
|
|
![[*]](images/xmbforum/default_icon.gif){kind=icon}
