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Alan
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Targeting Wahoo.
Wahoo is a fish that I really want to cross off my list of fish I haven't caught yet but basically I don't know a thing about them so I'm looking for
any advice I can find on how to target them. It seems in all of the reports on catching them they seem to be more of a by-catch when pursuing marlin
or tuna.
Are they open ocean or do they relate to structure? I hear reports of them being caught in the vicinity of different islands but I don't know if they
are an off-shore species or if they frequent inshore waters just as often? The only advice I have been able to get from a couple of pangueros is to
drag Marauder type lures close to the boat but not sure of the best speed for those style lures (I have been dragging them about 7 kts). Judging by
the responses to other posts I'm sure there is a wealth of knowledge here that can assist me in this pursuit.
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Osprey
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Hi, down here at East Cape it's all about structure. I don't target them because the best and closest structure where they are caught is a Marine
Reserve -- no fishing within 5 miles of shore (the reef they haunt is just off shore). You're already set up for em as far as I'm concerned --
marauders on heavy wire, 7 knots sounds about right. Think purple no matter what the sky.
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Skeet/Loreto
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Alan: If trolling off Catalana Island South of Loreto;
Catch a School of Tuna coming around the South Tip heading North on the Inside. Drop back behind the School and Troll as near to the Schooling Tuna's
Speed as Possible. I always used 40Lb. Line with a 50Lb Leader, Red or Purple Lure. Sept. Oct. was best for me.
Good Luck
Skeet/Loreto
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Summanus
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I personally have never caught one of these speedsters, but a friend in Mulege did a few years ago. It was a fighting 70 lber and was dee-licious at
their dinner party. I believe he caught this while trolling for tuna which were under a large group of porpoise. I remember the purple feather.
Summanus....ancient Roman Nightly Thunder God. He liked refrieds too.
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I have had one experience with Wahoo while on a long ranger. We were after tuna and were dragging feathers (I use purple/black for grey days, 'Mexican
Flag' colors on sunny days, no others). The middle rod got hit BIG TIME and was just peeling off the line, turns out, the guy was pulling a bare cedar
plug. When he finally got it in, it was a 50lb Wahoo. I and another guy switched to plugs, and as soon as they were in the water, we both got hit.
Mind you, the Wahoo had to pass over the feathers to get to the plugs. When my troll time was up, I was offered $10 to 'rent' my plug. Of COURSE I
took it.
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P.S We were in open water
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FARASHA
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DOES ANYONE HAVE A PHOTO? Would like to see what the WAHOO looks like - never seen one, or maybe I did and don't know!
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Summanus
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Wahoo photo and info
Here are some wahoo facts I researched. The photo below shows a big wahoo taken off Panama's west coast. Makes me want to inspect that part of the
world!
Species Facts
Science Name: Acanthocybium solandri
Other Names: ono, oahu fish, Pacific kingfish, ocean barracuda
Ideal Temp: 70 to 80
World Record: 158 lbs. 8 oz, Mexico
Environment: offshore
Techniques: heavy tackle, trolling
Fishing tips: If using bait, one angler suggests using bonita strips. Use mullet if they are not available.
p.s. Soon..soon, I shall be fishing in Baja! I really don't expect to catch anything like this monster wahoo, but who knows? I've already caught
the fishing fever, so time will tell.
[Edited on 11-22-2006 by Summanus]
Summanus....ancient Roman Nightly Thunder God. He liked refrieds too.
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FARASHA
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THANKS for the Pic, Summanus.
They look like Barrakuda I have seen elsewhere, but not THAT size!!
WHOW - what a beautiful creature.
Keep us updated if you catch something interesting - Please with PIC'S!!!!
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M
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Very good point Farasha
It should be mentioned again about the teeth. The Wahoo is almost the same as a baracuda, so the teeth are fearsome little razor blades. 'Wire leaders
are the only safe bet for keeping your hook-up.
Wahoo (& baracuda) will keep trying to bite you, so throwing it down loose on the deck is not a good idea. The giant squid will also go after your
ankles if your not paying attention.
M
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bill erhardt
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Alan...... Here's a picture of one of many wahoo I caught on the East Cape, none close to a marine park, but all within striking distance of Los
Barriles. Speed up a little bit with that marauder, actually Yo-Zuri Bonitas are the best, and put an orange and black back there with the purple.
Send me an email and I will tell you where I have found consistent wahoo action down there. Did you decide against Mag Bay this year?
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kellychapman
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NICE FISH.......but then again you know how to catch them all!!!!!! Farasha would love to go fishing with you for a really great time.....
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Alan
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Quote: | Originally posted by bill erhardt
Alan...... Here's a picture of one of many wahoo I caught on the East Cape, none close to a marine park, but all within striking distance of Los
Barriles. Speed up a little bit with that marauder, actually Yo-Zuri Bonitas are the best, and put an orange and black back there with the purple.
Send me an email and I will tell you where I have found consistent wahoo action down there. Did you decide against Mag Bay this year?
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I had to cancel all plans for Baja this year because it has been an especially nasty and long fire season. It actually started this year in January
and there's no sign of it slowing yet. It seems that if we weren't out on fires we were trying to play catchup in between on all of the work that
piled up while we were out. The final straw was the Esperanza Fire that burned over an engine and killed all 5 firefighters. These were guys that I
and many of the other guys I fish with had worked with for many years. Hopefully next year is going to be better. I can't imagine one being even
worse.
[Edited on 11-23-2006 by Alan]
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Tomas Tierra
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Science Name: Acanthocybium solandri
Other Names: ono, oahu fish, Pacific kingfish, ocean barracuda, Razor Toothed Surface Torpedo!
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BajaDanD
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wahoo
Cought this one with a Wahoo Bomb dropped down 100 feet then cranked up as fast as possible. One thing, When you hook a Wahoo dont ever stop reeling
even if you are not gaining any line If you stop for one second or pump the rod like you would on a tuna you will loose it. They usually just garb on
to a jig and dont let go as long as you are pulling. Their mouths are so hard that hooks hooks rarely set. They may look like a Bari kind of but the
teeth are all fused togather and could easly bite your hand off at the rist, bone and all. Where a Bari's teeth would just leave some knarly
punctures. They are one of the fastest fish out there and have been known to jumb 10+ feet in the air and follow jigs right into boats. Ive seen them
grab jigs at the serface and pull then let go and send jigs flying into peoples faces. I think they are the most fun to catch of any fish out there.
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BajaDanD
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Wahoo
This Wahoo was cought on a Murader while trolling at 9 knots
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FARASHA
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BDD:Had to laugh first - as I saw first the little one on 2nd pic when opening the thread. Seems like a BABY you caught there! Are they worth it? I
mean, makes at the max 1 filet?
Always thought they are released when too small. So they get a chance to grow up and multiply.
But the BIG one is stunning!whoa - hard fight to get him?
From your description how they can interact, I would think it's wise to use a face protection as in ICEHOCKEY
Thanks a lot for the nice pic's guys.
Yeah - Kelly is right, would love one day to go out and watch it, or even Video it. Preferably from UNDERWATER - would be a great perspective - UH?
Finally - AND WHAT IS A WAHOO BOMB?
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Mike Supino
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Go to: http://www.charkbait.com/cs/csc9.htm
For pictures.
Therianthropic
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FARASHA
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Mike -Thank you for the informative Link!
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BajaDanD
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The little one was cought on a Murader the was as big as the fish. it had to be brought aboard to remove the hook. I took the picture but did not
catch it I dont remember if it survived or not. I'm sure that none of us would have kept a Wahoo that small. It did however give us reason for a lot
of teasing.
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BajaDanD
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Wife caught this one
A 79lbr beat out my biggest by a pound She wont ever let me forget it either. That little one was caught at the same time as we were catching the
bigger models. I hooked a 60+lbr right at the boat just as I stopped reeling and was lifting my rod tip to bring the bomb out of the water it came out
from onder the boat and grabbed the bomb then took me around the 105 ft boat twice then let go of the bomb just as the deckhand gaffed it. It was
never hooked it just wouldnt let go.
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