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RICHARDH
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tortillas without lard (sin manteca)
I understand that it is traditional in Mexico to make tortillas with lard as an ingredient. But lard is very high in saturated fats and is generally
considered by modern medicine to be very hazardous to cardiovascular health. Many (if not most) makers of tortillas in the U.S. now make tortillas
(and tostadas, etc.) with no or very little saturated fats as well as no or very little trans fats (i.e., hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated
oils), which are now generally considered essentially the same as saturated fats for health purposes.
So I am wondering: Does tradition still hold sway in this regard throughout Baja? Or can one buy tortillas, (and tacos, tostadas, burritos, etc.) in
Baja free of saturated fats and trans fats?
If tortillas, (and tacos, tostadas, burritos, etc.) free of saturated fats and trans fats are available in Baja, where can they be found?
And has anyone researched this question and compiled an extensive list of such places?
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bajabound2005
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I think they are available but if you're really concerned, eat corn tortillas (no lard) or learn to make your own flour tortillas! Mmm good 
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Bruce R Leech
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the ones that bimbo seals in the stores are the lo-fat kind but all the tortilla places use lard.
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vandenberg
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Lard usage is the reason tortillas taste so much better in Mexico.
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TacoFeliz
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It's only a minor component in Mexican cooking.
I understand that if you drink a Negro Modelo every time you have that concern it will soon subside. Cure works particularly well in an oceanfront
cafe with a bunch of friends on your way to a second round of shrimp tostadas just before some fish tacos.
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Hook
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I always eat my carnitas on low fat tortillas. 
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Bob H
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
I always eat my carnitas on low fat tortillas. |
Hook, you crack me up! Good one. 
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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comitan
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The flour tortillas in Mexico are called Heart Plugs, Yes eat only corn tortillas no lard. Chicken breast only, No fish Tacos Deep fried, only red
meat on taco BQ'd for tacos ask for Mantaraya low fat.
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Mexitron
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My friend Frank just turned 85 and he eats eggs cooked in butter every morning with buttered toast. His dinner is often steak cooked in butter. Go
figure. Genetics has a lot to do with it I think.
Flour tortillas without any fat taste like newspaper...stick with corn tortillas warmed over a fire of some sorts if you want to go fat free. Lots
of flavor there.
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DENNIS
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Corn tortillas arn't made with lard, traditionally. A 6" dia. tortilla has only 60 calories, zero fat so, you can eat them 'till your belly blows
up.
Buen appetite.
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DENNIS
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Hose A ---
How old is that doctor?
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DENNIS
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Come to think of it...........
It wasn't that many years ago, perhaps 15, that the lardy flour tortillas weren't sold in stores in Ensenada, probably anywhere else in the region.
It was a cottage industry which produced them. A few people would stand in the grocery store parking lots and sell them by the dozen, Saran wrapped.
They were merchandised in the states prior to this. They seem to be a U.S. born delicasy like fajitas and chop suey.....and corn dogs.
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DENNIS
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Since I'm in an unusually talky mood, allow me to try to make a long story short concerning Mexican medicine.
A few years back, I had close neighbors in downtown Ensenada who were new parents with a young, one year old, daughter.
The parents were well educated....... professors at the local university and on there way to England to aquire a world class doctorate.
I paid a visit one day and saw that their little girls head had been shaved and she wore a decorative, elastic head band, similiar to a garter belt.
I asked my neighbor what had happened to the little ones beautiful head of hair.
The reply was that their doctor had informed them that the childs body growth was being stunted by too much energy spent on hair growth and by shaving
the head, eliminating the hair, albeit temporarily, the body growth would be restimulated.
This wasn't the first time I had heard of this.
As I mentioned, this family was educated by standards we understand but, they strongly believed the witchcraft which they, and the doctor grew up with
and acted accordingly. An interesting mixture of mysterious things, medicine and superstition.
I only bring this up because Hose A's story of the doctor who says corn is bad brought it to mind.
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bajabound2005
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touche, Dennis!
If you already have bad genes (like I do, it's genetic!) nothing I can do about lipids! We are super careful, eat little fried foods or fatty meats
yet am off the charts....I talk to my friend Lipitor in small doses, every other day I have 20 mg; seems to do the trick. My sister; who does
EVERYTHING right (but she doesn't drink much and gets way more exercise) is over 300 even WITH ultra doses of medication!!!! My last profile, less
than a year ago was 192. One never knows. But we don't eat a lot of flour tortillas even though we live in the Baja; but when we do we ENJOY them -
every last bite. And yes, fish tacos, too. We figure the fish (omega 3?) overpowers the fried part, but then it's served in a grilled (NOT FRIED)
CORN tortilla. I think the unfried corn counteracts anything fried fish....? 
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DENNIS
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BajaBound ---
Very little Omega-3 in the local fish. Has to be deep, cold water fish to be effective.
We share the genetic malady of high LDL but there are ways, other than statins to counteract it. Next time I see you, I'll bend your ear or send me
a U2U and I'll get you started.
By the way........... Your new house?------NICE
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bajabound2005
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si! la casa nueva es perfecto! but we can't get in there til Jan 1!!! Hey, a little fish, a little oil, some corn tortillas and cabbage --- a
perfectly healthy meal!
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comitan
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Dennis
Don't be secretive, share!
My shareing will be if your taking statins take them at night if your Dr, has not told,because your body produces the cholesterol at night. Women have
higher cholesterol levels, my sisters both over 300.
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bajabound2005
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always take mine at night!
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DENNIS
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Comitan-----------
OK, but keep in mind that I have tested these methods, as simplistic as they may sound, and have had dynamic results.
First ......... Buy the book: "The 3- Week Cholesterol Cure".
Second: Forget the 3- Week part and just make Oat Bran a part of your life.
Third ........... Google- "Red Yeast Rice". Do all the research you can stand to do and then go to Wal Mart, buy it and start taking it,
forever.
iherb.com is a good on-line source for all this stuff and their prices are as reasonable as anybody I've found. Look into what they have for
liver-health products and do more research. The more you try to repair the liver, the more healthy you will be.
On the other hand, statins can ruin the liver. Your liver is the problem. Why would you want to take anything which would make your liver worse?
Why do the doctors monitor your liver activity when they give you statins? Because statins can, and probably will, hurt your liver and they want to
know before it kills you.
Statins may be necessary for some cases but it only makes sense to try the less dangerous methods first.
Anyway, look out your front window tomorrow morning and look at that beautiful wave breaking on the beach and tell yourself that, "One of these days
my ashes will be surfing that wave for the final ride". We cant buy immortality but, we can do our best to put off the final ride.
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My mom quit smoking last March, said she didn't want to die young she turned 85
in August
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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