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Keri
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SMOG CERT.
I read this on another thread.
MORE ON SMOG EXEMPTIONS - Many Californians don't realize that there is also a smog inspection exemption for owners that can prove they have driven
their vehicles into Baja Sur. There is an actual "minimum miles from the border" clause to avoid exempting all the trans-border commuters in TJ, but
the exemption does exist and most of the DMV agents in the San Diego area are familiar with it. Due to the rather high cost to import and then
maintain current plates on Mexican cars, I prefer buying in California and maintaining registry there. Of course it helps if you are regularly going
back north to take care of things like this.
To avoid long lines in San Diego area DMV offices, I usually use the DMV office in Ventura, where they are not as familiar with this exemption. They
usually have to look it up in a huge book of CA vehicle code. You will have to fill out a statement of facts and show some proof of domicile in Baja
Sur. If anyone can quote me the actual chapter and verse for this California law I would appreciate it (the people at the counter always refuse to
tell me the actual number)!
It sure would be nice if the Mexican vehicles had a smog inspection program, however! - Jim Elfers
Anyone know the code they are talking about. I have to have my car smogged before the 15th and I sure don't want to If I don't have to. Any help out
there? k
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oxxo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Keri
I have to have my car smogged before the 15th and I sure don't want to If I don't have to. |
Why not get it smogged anyway? It is good for the environment and the air you breathe.
[Edited on 12-8-2006 by oxxo]
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Keri
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My car is only used in Baja . I don't want to drive it to the states if I don't have to. It is an older ford windstar. Very hard to pass inspections
and expensive if not necessary,k
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bajalou
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Two soultions for your problem Keri.
1st - rent a P.O.Box in El Centro or Calexico. Imperial county does not have periodic smog inspections - only on change of ownership.
2nd - register it in South Dakota. This can be done by mail very easily. You need a mail address somewhere for them to mail the plates to you but
you do not have to have a address (or anything else) in SD.
u2u me if you want more info on both of these options.
The Bronco II that stays forever in Mex has SD plates.
[Edited on 12-8-2006 by bajalou]
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fandango
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keri: when i was preparing to take a truck to live in mexico, i simply called the dmv 800 number and the agent gave me the form number and i printed
it from their website. it was very simple and i did not have to provide proof of where the truck was going to live. seems to me that the mileage is
90 miles from the border, that could be incorrect though.
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oxxo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Keri
My car is only used in Baja . I don't want to drive it to the states if I don't have to. It is an older ford windstar. Very hard to pass inspections
and expensive if not necessary,k |
Just because it is Mexico, is it okay to polute the air there? Just because Mexicans don't smog their cars, does that mean Americans shouldn't be
responsible and smog their cars. I understand that Mexicdo City is the smoggiest city in the world. Is that the way Baja should be eventually?
Yes, it IS expensive to smog older cars, but the alternatives to our bodies (health issues) from breathing dirty air is even more expensive. Yes,
living in Baja does present some logistical problems from time to time, but that is one of the penalties for living in Baja. Yes it IS necessary to
have all cars smogged.
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DENNIS
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When in Mexico, do as the Mexicans do.
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oxxo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
When in Mexico, do as the Mexicans do. |
Do you mean throw trash alongside the road?
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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oxxo
| Quote: | Originally posted by Keri
My car is only used in Baja . I don't want to drive it to the states if I don't have to. It is an older ford windstar. Very hard to pass inspections
and expensive if not necessary,k |
Just because it is Mexico, is it okay to polute the air there? Just because Mexicans don't smog their cars, does that mean Americans shouldn't be
responsible and smog their cars. I understand that Mexicdo City is the smoggiest city in the world. Is that the way Baja should be eventually?
Yes, it IS expensive to smog older cars, but the alternatives to our bodies (health issues) from breathing dirty air is even more expensive. Yes,
living in Baja does present some logistical problems from time to time, but that is one of the penalties for living in Baja. Yes it IS necessary to
have all cars smogged. |
OXXO...I too do not want oil belching gross polluters.
With that said, I consider you a ridiculous extremist.
I have read most of your posts and would suggest you take a hard, critical look at being so "cut and dried" extreme.
Ask your self why some places do not smog
""Just because it is Mexico, is it okay to polute the air there?"" Daaaa....Maybe because they don't need to
Don't I just love righteous( learned everything they know from Beserkly) Extremist.
This is what I call extreme. My motorhome traveled a total of 780 miles in 2 years. I maintain it in perfect running condition. When I attempted to
smog, it just barely failed.
I am a great mechanic and had already tuned and tighten.
I had replaced the carburetor gasket, warmed engine and re-tighten it again. At this point I went along with the recommended diagnose and re-test.
After 2 hours and 300.00 it passed when he finally found the carb loose and tighten it
The reason I passed this along, is to point out what tree-huggers and the alike extremist have done to our world.
If you think you have done good, you are wrong. Just drive in LA on almost any day(carry a sock to breath through). The cause is not cars
poluting...it is oil companies, and dumb Californians. Prop. 87 just failed. Extremist must do something, not whine.
We need better fuel, not a corrupt, blood sucking smog industry.
Keri...I hope you succeed in your quest.
Albert G
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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oxxo
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
When in Mexico, do as the Mexicans do. |
Do you mean throw trash alongside the road? |
You know he did not mean that...Just trying tio agitate like a good extremist are you????
Albert G
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MrBillM
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Having it Both Ways ?
I keep hearing from the Usual Suspects that it is SO important that the foreign residents follow and obey the Mexican Laws. FINE. I'm more than
willing to follow Mexican air-pollution laws on Every Vehicle I drive in Baja.
Being an honest, law-abiding citizen, I am Also committed to obeying the U.S. (California) laws as they apply to Imperial County.
No Problema.
[Edited on 12-8-2006 by MrBillM]
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DENNIS
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Is "throwing trash alongside the road" a Mexican custom? Is littering a cultural trait?
If either is the case, then, yes. Throw all of your trash alongside the road.
If pig behavior is the exception to majority behavior then, no. Dispose of trash accordingly, except for loaded disposable diapers which roll around
the Gigante parking lot like bowling balls. That's OK.
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oxxo
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Smogging your car does cut down on polution. Yes, it can involve some expense and some inconvenience, but it is the right thing to do for the
environment. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution.
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MrBillM
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Dirty Baja Cars
You have to wonder, in terms of overall pollution, does the car or cars you have for casual use in Baja pollute any more than the vehicle you drive
for long distances each day which does meet the standards ?
Additionally, if you want a vehicle which will likely pass smog regardless of engine condition, it's the Suzuki Samurai. I've got two in decent
condition, but both with around 90K. When smogging the "worst" of the two, I was surprised that the levels recorded (though high) were a fraction of
the allowance for that vehicle. My friend (who did the test) said that he'd never seen a Samurai that didn't pass.
Speaking of relative pollution levels, at one time I bought a 1969 GMC pickup from a friend who had just rebuilt the 350 engine with complete
disregard for pollution controls. Aftermarket manifold with Four-Barrel Holley, a mild performance Cam, high-compression, etc. He trashed all of the
smog controls so we went to someone we knew to get a certificate. While there, he ran the engine and it Met the maximum levels for
that vehicle. It simply wasn't legal because the equipment was gone.
After rebuilding, the engine consistently got 18-20 mpg so you could say that I was contributing Less to the same vehicle in "Legal"
condition.
I once (1975-76) tuned a customer's Porsche 914-4 to meet Smog requirements and the vehicle ran like crap. I told the customer to bring it back the
next day and we'd get someone to retune it to run well. Which he (and we) did.
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bajalou
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oxxo
Smogging your car does cut down on polution. Yes, it can involve some expense and some inconvenience, but it is the right thing to do for the
environment. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. |
Smoging our cars does not cut down on pollution. The tuning etc of the car is what keeps pollution down. If you believe testing will reduce the
pollution, I encourage you to have your's tested every week.
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DENNIS
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I dont live in Rosarito Beach but, if I did, and I was worried about my car adding to the problem, I would be blind to the facts. Especially the
one that shows their refinery pumping pollution into the sky day and night.
Besides, where does it say that if one doesn't pay the state of California a tax, that your car is polluting the atmosphere? I keep my car tuned,
that's the best we can do or hope for.
OXXO ----- Jeezo, if you're so worried about keeping the environment clean, you should hang around any street here and see how many people spit on
the sidewalk.
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oxxo
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Anyone who wants to argue that tuning (yes tuning) your car to smog standards does not reduce polution, then have at it. The facts are that tuning
your car to smog standards does in fact, reduce polution. It is unimportant what other people or induistries do. It is about personal
responsibility. You are either PART of the problem or PART of the solution. Just get your cars smogged regardless of the expense or inconvenience.
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DENNIS
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And, get a flu shot.
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Frigatebird
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oxxo
...You are either PART of the problem or PART of the solution... |
I disagree. How much of the problem you are, is the real issue. If you are here, you are part of it. It is unavoidable.
And solutions? Patience may be in order.
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Skipjack Joe
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I've never seen smog in baja. There are simply not enough vehicles to cause smog. I am no expert on the subject but as I recall air pollutants break
down over a short period of time. It's when the concentration of pollution grows in a small area over a short period of time that you get smog and the
accompanying health issues.
It's really unreasonable to expect the people of a sparsely inhabited desert to worry about air pollution. Eventually air pollution will come to baja
though (perhaps La Paz, Ensenada, and the like already have).
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