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New Trump Baja Resort to Be Built on Mexico's Most Polluted Beach
New Trump Baja Resort to Be Built on Mexico's Most Polluted Beach
New Trump Baja Resort to Be Built on Mexico's Most Polluted Beach December 8, 2006 Donald Trump's newest Beachfront Resort will be built just north of
Baja's Punta Bandera, where 30 million gallons of sewage are discharged daily on the beach. Prospective buyers should be informed, so they can ask
developers about health risks and sewage collection. This discharge is the same one that closes beaches in Imperial Beach and Coronado during the
summer months, when swells take it north.
"We want to warn prospective buyers about the sewage crisis. All condo buyers in the Tijuana-Ensenada corridor should be worried that their new
properties will be surrounded by raw sewage", says Serge Dedina, executive director of WiLDCOAST, a non-profit organization that protects costal
ecosystems and wildlife.WiLDCOAST organized a protest with surfers today at a Trump Baja Sales Event in San Diego to ask prospective condo buyers to
avoid real estate investments that front sewage polluted beaches. The sewage that will pollute Trump's condos also pollutes Baja Malibu, one of Baja's
best beach breaks.
The rapid development of the Baja California coastline between Tijuana and Rosarito has outpaced the development of sewage collection and
infrastructure. International developers have continued to develop the coast without contributing to necessary infrastructure improvements. The result
is an environmental and health crisis as sewage and wastewater are dumped directly on beaches.
A new study, published in this month's issue of Applied and Environmental Microbiology by SDSU public health professor Rick Gersberg, shows that these
coastal waters near the U.S.-Mexico border almost always harbor harmful viruses, in addition to the bacteria that are usually measured to detect
health threats.
"It's important to recognize the presence of the viruses that actually pose the most significant public health risk, and viruses can be present long
after the bacteria levels have subsided," said Gersberg, head of the Division of Occupational and Environmental Health in SDSU's Graduate School of
Public Health.
HAV and enteroviruses were detected in border waters 90 percent of the time. Gersberg's study is the first quantitative assessment of the statistical
relationship between levels of hepatitis A, enterovirus, E. coli and enterococci in marine waters.
Mexico is not hiding its sewage problems from developers. We found an honest assessment of the Rosarito -Punta Bandera - Tijuana area in the Mexican
Government website.
According to Baja California's Secretary of the Environment, the sewage treatment at Punta Bandera was not designed to handle the industrial waste it
currently receives from Tijuana, and that the "treated" effluent "fails to meet Mexican water quality standards for ocean discharges, exceeding limits
for heavy metals, oils, suspended solids, and organic waste (sewage)."
The Secretary adds that this beach discharge "has a significant effect on the coastal environment and is the focus of international conflict." The
analysis points out that, "wastewater and sewage being dumped directly on beaches, mostly affects Playas de Tijuana, Punta Bandera, and Rosarito".
"No surfer in their right mind should be surfing or buying condos anywhere near this area," said WiLDCOAST'S Dedina. "
For more information contact WiLDCOAST at www.wildcoast.net
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Growing up in The Hague ,Holland, next to one of Northern Europe's largest beach resorts, Scheveningen, we swam in the North Sea all summer. With the
Rhine dumping pollutants from inland, no treatment plants and the city canals flushed out by the tidal action, I can not recall anyone ever getting
sick, even with the seafoam a dirty brown from whatever. Maybe hardier breed or not subjected to the scare tactics in today's media ? 
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perhaps the protesters are messing up if trump builds it he also has enoff money to help fix
the problem for everyone
if he dont who will?
be carfull not to bite off the hands that feed you
jerry and judi
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Dave
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Yes, "The Donald" has enough money to fix the problem
| Quote: | Originally posted by jerry
perhaps the protesters are messing up if trump builds it he also has enoff money to help fix
the problem for everyone
if he dont who will?
be carfull not to bite off the hands that feed you |
And years from now he will have even more money to fix the problem. 
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Thank God Mother Nature is able to fix alot of man's screw ups. Filtration through Land and Water. I guess someone has to watch over us.
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beautiful...!
There is some sick part of me that finds humor and an odd twist in that article...
Sub title could perhaps be . . . "The Donald and The Sewage"
OR....? ? ?
Go ahead give it a shot... it is irreverantly cathartic somehow.... be sure and shake the handle when you're done.
Its all just stuff and some numbers.
A day spent sailing isn\'t deducted from one\'s life.
Peace, Love, and Music
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Paula
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good game, djh!!
How about... "When the $#!T Hits the Ceiling Fan"?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jerry
perhaps the protesters are messing up if trump builds it he also has enoff money to help fix
the problem for everyone
if he dont who will?
be carfull not to bite off the hands that feed you |
Good point... the surfers or that outfit WiLDCOAST complain about sewage, but do nothing about it. Donald Trump (or some other 'nasty' corporation)
wants to buy land and has the resources to fix the problem and 'WiLDCOAST complains still??? (why is the i not capitalized?)
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bancoduo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
Growing up in The Hague ,Holland, next to one of Northern Europe's largest beach resorts, Scheveningen, we swam in the North Sea all summer. With the
Rhine dumping pollutants from inland, no treatment plants and the city canals flushed out by the tidal action, I can not recall anyone ever getting
sick, even with the seafoam a dirty brown from whatever. Maybe hardier breed or not subjected to the scare tactics in today's media ? |
Why don't you buy one of Trumps
condos,so you can go swimming with the TURDS again. 
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If, as the article says, the sewage source results in summer closings of beaches at Imperial Beach and Coronado, seems to me that's legitimate grounds
for complaint.
As for the Trump related developers having the resources to fix the problem, have these developers said they have the resources to fix a municipal
sewage problem? What, some of you guys think Trump and the developers have bottomless supplies of money? That they should fix the city's sewage
problem? You a bunch of liberals, or what?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by jerry
perhaps the protesters are messing up if trump builds it he also has enoff money to help fix
the problem for everyone
if he dont who will?
be carfull not to bite off the hands that feed you |
Good point... the surfers or that outfit WiLDCOAST complain about sewage, but do nothing about it. Donald Trump (or some other 'nasty' corporation)
wants to buy land and has the resources to fix the problem and 'WiLDCOAST complains still??? (why is the i not capitalized?) |
I wonder if Donald would have any profits left if he solved the sewage problem. First of all, all of the homes, permanent or not would need to be
hooked up to a sewer system so maybe a sewage treatment plant would work.
Then again, in Mexicali they just paved over the New River so that they don't have to see the sewage that drains into the US---so maybe, Donald can
move that sewage pipe. 
When our beaches here in Imperial Beach are reported as closed, the beaches in Coronado often are reported as No Data Available---they don't like
sewage in Coronado.
Maybe we can send Donald some of our cute little yellow warning signs ---- it is amazing how many people still go in the ocean with the signs up.
Diane
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| Quote: | Originally posted by grover
Why sweat Baja? We just found out the Navy has been discharging directly into San Diego Bay for years now.
An honest mistake made in good faith I'm sure.
Navy sewage flowed to bay since '04
Huge spill started when barracks built
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20061118/news_7m18se...
"...More than 10 million gallons of raw sewage flowed into San Diego Bay over the past two years from an award-winning military barracks because of an
improperly connected pipe...
...workers hired by the San Diego-based building contractor Soltek Pacific connected a pipe carrying about 75 percent of the outflow from the
barracks' toilets, sinks and showers to an unused[sic] storm drain that flows into Chollas Creek and then into the bay. The pipe should have been
hooked to a sewage line running to a treatment plant.
Seabees from a Navy construction battalion discovered the error yesterday while working on an unrelated construction project. They quickly
built a temporary line..."
MINUTES COUNT when it's been going on for years! |
Couldn't believe that story when it came out---glad they acted quickly.
Well, at least living in Imperial Beach we have the reputation for having a problem and the lifeguards test the water all the time, so we know when it
is bad. Strange that some areas of San Diego don't ever seem to have an ocean pollution problem.  
Well, the little rain we had closed us up today---difficult to explain to the dogs why they can't go swimming today, especially because there are apt
to be some humans out there.
Diane
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They'll just extend the outlet pipe for a mile or two! No problem! The sewage will be dumped in deeper water and the ocean will eat it.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
They'll just extend the outlet pipe for a mile or two! No problem! The sewage will be dumped in deeper water and the ocean will eat it. |
If your talking about TJ there's no outlet
pipe. It dumps from the land straight into the water.
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Banco-------
---there has got to be a pipe somewhere, doesn't there??
or is it just like a river flowing into the sea??
Or does it flow into the Tijuana River and thereby go into the USA before going into the sea????
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
---there has got to be a pipe somewhere, doesn't there??
or is it just like a river flowing into the sea??
Or does it flow into the Tijuana River and thereby go into the USA before going into the sea???? |
There is a pipe from the plant but it stops just before it gets to the
oceanI'm talking about the undersized plant close to Trumps new paradise. But on
the north and northeast TJ runoffs, raw sewage runs into the river and into the US. Also; the TJ plant can't handle the volume so there is a lot
of overflow of raw stuff down the gully near Trumps place. TRUMP CREEK slogan could be a selling point
[Edited on 12-11-2006 by bancoduo]
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Lots of untreated stuff flows into the Tijuana River and right straight into the US. 'Tis a nasty river, but if you want to see one that is worse,
stop at the New River in Calexico---the one they paved over in Mexicali.
If you don't know where it is, just follow your nose.
Diane
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Diane/Banco-----
------and, unlike the situation in TJ where the "stuff" flows into the ocean, the "New River" flows into the USA and just keeps going north into the
Salton Sea---------been doing this for many, many years. I remember back 20 years ago when I lived in El Centro that it was a "really big deal", and
it WAS going to be taken care of "soon"-------apparently "taking care of it" meens hiding it from Mexican eyes?????
What a mess (litterally!!!!) 
Way bigger issue than any that "the Donald" would want to tackle----and it is not his responsibility, as somebody already pointed out. If "taxes"
don't cover this issue, I don't know what they do cover!!!!!!!!!
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As someone who has spent the last 46 years enjoying the act of actually going in the ocean along the stretch of Baja between Rosarito and Ensenada the
current building boom is depressing due to the fact that the infrastructure will not/is not/has not been able to handle the ever increasing amounts of
human sewage. It is already a huge risk to your health to enter the ocean anywhere near the border area all the way thru Rosarito south and it is
getting worse, not better, all the time.
I suspect that the vast majority of those purchasing the high rise condos along the coast are ONLY concerned with the 'ocean view' aspect, (many are
being built in areas with no actual beach-only rocky shoreline) or as stated in the Tramp tower article, speculators with lots of $$$$$. The chit will
hit the fan when the chit starts to hit the beach.
Of course the damage will be done by then.
WiLDCOAST is doing a service publicizing the fact that the coastline/beaches in that area is/are polluted and that the site is RIGHT across the toll
road from an inefficient and overtaxed water treatment plant. You won’t see that info from the Donald.
Caveat emptor.
MAGA
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elgatoloco!!! Saying it like it is!
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