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[*] posted on 12-16-2006 at 09:48 AM
Getting tough on drugs. What a joke.


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[*] posted on 12-16-2006 at 10:33 AM


that is a Bummer but I will give them more time. 1 week isn't very long to do what they are trying to do.



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[*] posted on 12-16-2006 at 12:28 PM


Just the advent of military presence will curtail cartel activities for the short term. They hide out. Eventually they will resurface there or elsewhere. Then they can be picked off. It will not be pretty, and unfortunately, violence against innocent civilians may be committed in order to make a statement.

I do believe a strong military presence can put a dent in cartels' operations. It should also improve relations with the United States by showing that Mexico is actually doing something.

Come on.....give it a bit longer than a week.
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[*] posted on 12-16-2006 at 01:11 PM


The operation was never intended to inmediately capture cartel leaders. Michoacan is about the size of Ireland and is full of mountain ranges, jungles, and forest, where its easy to hide. What the operation intended to do was to show the cartels that the goverment can do anything it wants, it can go in and destroy their drug plantations and labs. And it can make them pack in a hurry and flee to other states. It is my understanding that the military destroyed thousands of fields of marijuana and opium, and that means $$$

Most drug lords get caught when they are under an intense hunt. They become sloppy and make mistakes because they are in a hurry, and thats when they get arrested.

(The military did a lot of things that we are not hearing on the news)




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[*] posted on 12-16-2006 at 02:17 PM


The military just caught a big fish. Its Jesús Raúl Beltrán Uriarte, one of the bosses for the sinaloa cartel. And also captured 8 of his bodyguards.

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[*] posted on 12-17-2006 at 07:15 PM


Another one, Elías Valencia Valencia head of the Valencia cartel was arrested today along with 5 bodyguards.

Looks like Calderon means business.




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[*] posted on 12-17-2006 at 10:52 PM


Wow, with all the posts concerning rising crime here in Baja, i would have expected more comments from these news. It seems Calderon is really going to launch an all out offensive against the drug cartels, wich are the main reason for the spike in the crime rate.



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[*] posted on 12-17-2006 at 10:59 PM


Wow i am impressed. They just got Alfonso Barajas Figueroa, one of the main bosses of the Gulf Cartel.

3 different cartel bosses in just a few days.

And special forces forces just got to Tijuana today to carry out several arrest warrants against members of the Arellano felix cartel.

[Edited on 12-18-2006 by JESSE]




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[*] posted on 12-18-2006 at 12:05 AM


"3 different cartel bosses in just a few days."

And it has been that easy all along? Or is Calderon going to get himself in bad trouble with the cartels if he doesn't arrest every single cartel member? What are the lower ranking members of the cartels of whose bosses have been arressted going to do now? I do wish Calderon luck though.
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rolleyes.gif posted on 12-18-2006 at 09:14 AM
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[*] posted on 12-18-2006 at 06:05 PM


Three weeks into his presidency....now that's progress. Hope he continues to pursue and erradicate the scum, confiscate their holdings and buy more sophistcated equipment to find more scum to obliterate!



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[*] posted on 12-18-2006 at 06:34 PM
Good News for Mexico and the World


The more Drug Manufacturers, Distributors, Salesmen and Users Arrested, the BETTER.
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[*] posted on 12-18-2006 at 08:47 PM
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[*] posted on 12-19-2006 at 10:57 AM


After 20 plus years of kayack trips around the Loreto area and getting to know alot of local fisherman, one cannot ignore some of the local storys which are common knowedge.---It seems that one very, very prominent and distinguished political family owns a large island in the area.and allows small planes to land and come and go.Its always at night. And the planes are always refueling. There is increased panga activity also at night and when the activity is at its highest level the Mexican Navy is either 100 miles north or south of this Island as is the Mexican Army. Just who is kidding who here??? This is business as usual in Mexico!!!!:coolup:
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[*] posted on 12-23-2006 at 12:39 AM
Michoacán military operation enters Phase Two


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El Universal
22 de diciembre de 2006

Eleven days into a campaign aimed at crushing organized drug traffickers in the state of Michoacán, Army officials announced Thursday that the military operation is entering a new phase with state law enforcement agencies playing a larger role.

Manuel García Ruiz, chief of the 12th Military Region and the general in charge of the campaign, said Michoacán state police will join Army troops and federal police in the sweeps against drug traffickers, as well as carry out arrest orders on their own.

A key shift in Phase Two, according to the general, will be more focus on urban operations. Much of the action during the first phase took place in the countryside, where troops sought to deal the traffickers a financial blow by destroying marijuana fields.

The first 11 days of the operation netted 60 arrests, four of them involving high-level operatives in the Sinaloa cartel.

Ten of the arrests came on Wednesday, with federal troops detaining presumed drug traffickers in the towns of Apatzingán and Aguililla.

One of the arrested was Fermín Borjes Barajas, son of a major Gulf cartel figure known as "Poncho el Feo."

Gen. García had said earlier that the current military sweep of Michoacán has confirmed that the Zetas, the armed wing of the Gulf cartel, are no longer a factor in the crime organization´s activities. The once-feared band of former soldiers is now a "myth," according to the general and the Gulf cartel can no longer count on help from any true Zeta force in its battles with the Sinaloa and Tijuana cartels.

"We´ve detained a number of criminals in this state for many months, and whenever we asked them why they call themselves Zetas, they always answer that they just use that name to scare their enemies," Gen. García said Wednesday.

However, the federal Attorney General´s Office (PGR) still consider the Zetas a security threat, according to internal PGR documents.

Even so, the PGR recognizes the Zetas have been reduced in numbers, with perhaps 11 leaders remaining nationwide.

Other lesser organizations are still working in support of the major cartels, including in Michoacán gangs with family names such as Valencia, Süastegui, Rosales and Mendoza.

INTELLIGENCE MAPS

It also came to light Thursday that Army officials are using detailed intelligence maps that locate cartel strongholds in specific Michoacán towns.

According to the maps, the Gulf cartel controls the municipalities of Coalcomán, Arteaga, Tumbiscatio, Antunes, Pará- cuaro, Nueva Italia, La Huacana, Churumuco, Huetamo, San Lucas and Tacámbaro.

The Sinaloa cartel holds Turicato, Aquila, Álvaro Obregón and the state capital of Morelia.

Seven municipalities - Apatzingán, Uruapan, Lázaro Cárdenas, Aguililla, Buenavista, and Jacona are being fought over by both cartels.




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[*] posted on 1-7-2007 at 04:13 AM


LEGALIZE...!!!!!! Give em all they want, and the ones that want more, good, give it to them, maybe they'll overdose.

VOTE OUT THE INCUMBANTS. ALL OF THEM

WAR ON DRUGS is "The War on Wallets" of the working people of the U.S. of A. A bunch of crap.

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[*] posted on 1-7-2007 at 03:31 PM


I agree.
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