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awfulart
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Goodwill Gesture
We are driving to Loreto next week and wondered if there were any recommended items we might give to the Soldiers conducting the inspection. We
would, of course, wait until the inspection was completed and then provide the soldiers with the item. In the past we have provided soft drinks.
We want to do this as a gesture of Good Will and friendship, with no ulterior motive.
Art & Alice
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bajalou
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I probably would give the same thing I give to the Border Patrol personnel at the highway checkpoints in the US, or what I give to the Customs
officers at the border. After all, they're doing their job.
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And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area
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DENNIS
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Yeah ---
Give them wanted posters of the mayor of Tijuana.
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vgabndo
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I made the mistake of leaving two pairs of new leather gloves from Costco in plain sight. A soldado at the k24 reten north of Loreto really made a
play for one of them. (It WAS cold.) I gave him a pair and jokingly said "in the cause of international friendship". My next time through I got the
same guy. The SOB tore me a new one, going through all my stuff. Uh...plan B? And you are correct, the second time, he was just doing his job.
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David K
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Chewing gum... doesn't take up much room... nice to have regardless of temperature. Costco probably has a good size case for cheap?
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vacaenbaja
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I can think of two things. At most every checkpoint I was asked if I would "sell some batteries" It seems that they are
used up at a furious pace not only for flashlights but also for
personal electronics. Also Cup of noodle and spam seem to
be popular items. Heck throw in some of that beef jerky that
costco sells too.
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DavidT
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Suture kits, lidocaine.
Or did you mean something that will make you feel good? Like sodas and bubble gum.
Just playing the Devil's Advocate.
David
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Sharksbaja
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Handout Dead Batteries
joke intended
I always handout US made paletas. Tootsie Pops seem to be preferred.
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awfulart
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Thank you everyone for your "kind and thoughtful" responses. Perhaps I have
been misled by my understanding that these soldados are not trained very well, are poorly paid and might very well be dirt poor, unlike our well paid
highway patrol/immigration personnel.
I guess I will just have to do what seems to be the right thing. I will have some Spanish language School books for the school in Mulege and would
hope they don't present a problem taking them down there.
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Mulegena
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These guys are there doing a job their government has created. They should not expect handouts.
Having traveled via RV down Baja many times, I truly thought it was their job to confiscate fresh foodstuff from my refrigerator because at each stop,
and without explanation, they took something that was in its whole state. I didn't like this but thought they were within their rights to do so. To
stop this I chop up my fresh food and put it in containers; they do not take that. I have since been informed that they are not an arm of the
Agriculture Department and are absolutely out of line in taking anything.
They may enter any vehicle and search for illegal drugs or weapons and take the appropriate action if they find any-- that is their job as defined by
the Mexican government.
To take food or expect handouts is to act in an unprofessional manner. To give handouts is disrespectful and in my opinion, not on.
Now at a military check point I give nothing and take nothing off anyone. I am ultra-alert, friendly but I expect-- and receive-- respect while I
attentively watch these young men do their assigned job.
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DENNIS
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What are they looking for anyway? How many weapons can be stuffed into an ash tray?
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David K
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Drugs and weapons/ammo Dennis... Your ash tray may not be just for tobacco....
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vacaenbaja
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And I would be very respectfull despite any treatment.
All it would take is one or two "dropped" rounds in the back
of your rig and your next stop may be very interesting in
the land of "guilty until proven inocent".
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The late Mike Humphreyville said something profound that I will always remember, and which seems to apply to this case. He said," I hope that I
never treat someone differently due to his economic status". That so depersonalizes the receiver not to mention how it cheapens the giver.
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DENNIS
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Jeezo ---
I wish I'd known Mike H. Im sure I'd be a better person today.
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Fisher, you lost me. I hope I will give aid to those in need, hope I would not treat them like the rich.
"Now Robin Hood was famous, but there's one thing you should know, he only robbed the rich folks cause the poor folks had no dough". Those soldiers
always cokes from me -- just trying to walk in their shoes -- those big hot boots in the summer.
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awfulart
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Pescador, I agree we should not treat people differently because of their economic situation but I don't believe Mike meant we should never share
what we have.
Art
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bancoduo
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Quote: | Originally posted by vacaenbaja
And I would be very respectfull despite any treatment.
All it would take is one or two "dropped" rounds in the back
of your rig and your next stop may be very interesting in
the land of "guilty until proven inocent". | They started doing that in the 70's but at the same roadblock.
I've seen the DEA do the same thing in the US during a muffed bust.
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woody with a view
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seems like they just like to check out your "stuff".
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Bruce R Leech
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Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
A nice smile and a compliment about thier professionalism. |
this is the way to go
Bruce R Leech
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