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[*] posted on 1-27-2007 at 07:09 PM
Goodwill Gesture


We are driving to Loreto next week and wondered if there were any recommended items we might give to the Soldiers conducting the inspection. We would, of course, wait until the inspection was completed and then provide the soldiers with the item. In the past we have provided soft drinks.:light:

We want to do this as a gesture of Good Will and friendship, with no ulterior motive.

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[*] posted on 1-27-2007 at 07:22 PM


I probably would give the same thing I give to the Border Patrol personnel at the highway checkpoints in the US, or what I give to the Customs officers at the border. After all, they're doing their job.



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[*] posted on 1-27-2007 at 07:27 PM


Yeah ---
Give them wanted posters of the mayor of Tijuana.
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[*] posted on 1-27-2007 at 07:44 PM


I made the mistake of leaving two pairs of new leather gloves from Costco in plain sight. A soldado at the k24 reten north of Loreto really made a play for one of them. (It WAS cold.) I gave him a pair and jokingly said "in the cause of international friendship". My next time through I got the same guy. The SOB tore me a new one, going through all my stuff. Uh...plan B? And you are correct, the second time, he was just doing his job.:lol:



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[*] posted on 1-27-2007 at 08:01 PM


Chewing gum... doesn't take up much room... nice to have regardless of temperature. Costco probably has a good size case for cheap?



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[*] posted on 1-27-2007 at 10:53 PM


I can think of two things. At most every checkpoint I was asked if I would "sell some batteries" It seems that they are
used up at a furious pace not only for flashlights but also for
personal electronics. Also Cup of noodle and spam seem to
be popular items. Heck throw in some of that beef jerky that
costco sells too.
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[*] posted on 1-28-2007 at 01:50 AM


Suture kits, lidocaine.
Or did you mean something that will make you feel good? Like sodas and bubble gum.
Just playing the Devil's Advocate.




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[*] posted on 1-28-2007 at 01:55 AM
Handout Dead Batteries


joke intended:bounce:
I always handout US made paletas. Tootsie Pops seem to be preferred.:D




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[*] posted on 1-28-2007 at 07:51 AM


Thank you everyone for your "kind and thoughtful":?: responses. Perhaps I have been misled by my understanding that these soldados are not trained very well, are poorly paid and might very well be dirt poor, unlike our well paid highway patrol/immigration personnel.

I guess I will just have to do what seems to be the right thing. I will have some Spanish language School books for the school in Mulege and would hope they don't present a problem taking them down there.
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[*] posted on 1-28-2007 at 09:25 AM


These guys are there doing a job their government has created. They should not expect handouts.

Having traveled via RV down Baja many times, I truly thought it was their job to confiscate fresh foodstuff from my refrigerator because at each stop, and without explanation, they took something that was in its whole state. I didn't like this but thought they were within their rights to do so. To stop this I chop up my fresh food and put it in containers; they do not take that. I have since been informed that they are not an arm of the Agriculture Department and are absolutely out of line in taking anything.

They may enter any vehicle and search for illegal drugs or weapons and take the appropriate action if they find any-- that is their job as defined by the Mexican government.

To take food or expect handouts is to act in an unprofessional manner. To give handouts is disrespectful and in my opinion, not on.

Now at a military check point I give nothing and take nothing off anyone. I am ultra-alert, friendly but I expect-- and receive-- respect while I attentively watch these young men do their assigned job.
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[*] posted on 1-28-2007 at 09:27 AM


What are they looking for anyway? How many weapons can be stuffed into an ash tray?
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[*] posted on 1-28-2007 at 11:56 AM


Drugs and weapons/ammo Dennis... Your ash tray may not be just for tobacco....



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[*] posted on 1-28-2007 at 12:17 PM


And I would be very respectfull despite any treatment.
All it would take is one or two "dropped" rounds in the back
of your rig and your next stop may be very interesting in
the land of "guilty until proven inocent".
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[*] posted on 1-28-2007 at 02:22 PM


The late Mike Humphreyville said something profound that I will always remember, and which seems to apply to this case. He said," I hope that I never treat someone differently due to his economic status". That so depersonalizes the receiver not to mention how it cheapens the giver.
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[*] posted on 1-28-2007 at 02:33 PM


Jeezo ---
I wish I'd known Mike H. Im sure I'd be a better person today.
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[*] posted on 1-28-2007 at 02:44 PM


Fisher, you lost me. I hope I will give aid to those in need, hope I would not treat them like the rich.
"Now Robin Hood was famous, but there's one thing you should know, he only robbed the rich folks cause the poor folks had no dough". Those soldiers always cokes from me -- just trying to walk in their shoes -- those big hot boots in the summer.
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[*] posted on 1-28-2007 at 03:59 PM


Pescador, I agree we should not treat people differently because of their economic situation but I don't believe Mike meant we should never share what we have.

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[*] posted on 1-28-2007 at 03:59 PM


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And I would be very respectfull despite any treatment.
All it would take is one or two "dropped" rounds in the back
of your rig and your next stop may be very interesting in
the land of "guilty until proven inocent".
They started doing that in the 70's but at the same roadblock. I've seen the DEA do the same thing in the US during a muffed bust.:cool:
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[*] posted on 1-28-2007 at 06:34 PM


seems like they just like to check out your "stuff".



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[*] posted on 1-28-2007 at 06:40 PM


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A nice smile and a compliment about thier professionalism.


this is the way to go :yes:




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