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twogringos
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Rogue wave sinks boat
At 11 am on Wednesday, 3/28/07 a wave swamped and sink a private fishing boat at the north end of Cerralvo island. The three Americans were fishing
in a 24 ft outboard at Punta Norte in moderate to heavy winds when the wave overtook them. They managed to swim to shore and were rescued on Friday
morning. The skipper is very experienced in these waters. Because of the winds, they were the only boat fishing that morning and no boats fished
there on Thursday. A private search was started on Friday when it was realized they had not returned. I know no details of there ordeal, but they
were resting at their home on Friday afternoon.
Interesting that there was a 5.0 earthquake at 7:30 am that morning located 37 miles south of Los Mochis or 87 miles north of their position.
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Crusoe
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Too bad for the fisherman and their vessel.Very glad they made it ashore unscathed. Happens more often than we always here of. That channel is a real
blow hole. Although the timing of the sinking and earth quake event and the distance invloved from where the center was recorded doesn't quite add
up......no one could say for certain that the wave was related ......but based on logic(and not personaly seeing the rogue wave) I would bet it was
and most likely probable.
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bancoduo
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ROGUE WAVE! Read the details closely. Any REAL mariner would know this was caused by a
lack of common sense. No sympathy here.
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David K
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Important line in the opening post: "Because of the winds, they were the only boat fishing that morning ..."
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http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/2007...
Here is another one that sunk recently.
Lucky guys !!
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Bancoduo, do they still have internet service at the Mazatlan jail?
Buddha knows, I've been out racing small sailboats, or fishing in any boat I could find, in winds that no prudent person would go out in. The reason
I'm not a statistic is probably just pure dumb luck. My theory is that one can never know their limitations until they exceed them.
Rogue waves do exist and they have victimized more than these unfortunate fellows.
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
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Well said Bruno!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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Nobody deserves that kind of experience. Carelessor not.
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
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bancoduo
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TOO! All the good people out there who put their life on the line rescuing both the deserving and the FOOLS. Some marooons never learn their
lesson.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBruno
Bancoduo, do they still have internet service at the Mazatlan jail?
Buddha knows, I've been out racing small sailboats, or fishing in any boat I could find, in winds that no prudent person would go out in. The reason
I'm not a statistic is probably just pure dumb luck. My theory is that one can never know their limitations until they exceed them.
Rogue waves do exist and they have victimized more than these unfortunate fellows. |
You might want to put
your name on the USCG don't rescue me I can take care of myself list.
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Well, I have been out with some experienced captains that sometimes take on what most of us would call rough waters, however, they call them a small
wind blow. I guess it just means some captains handle the seas better than others. I personally do not like rough seas and have never been sea
sick(thank the man upstairs) but have been so close and only in rough waters. I believe you should never take the ocean for granted. I would never
go out now if I know there are possible high winds or possible rough waters, as more than likely the ocean water will be rough. Now that is never fun
no matter how much "macho" you have. If I want to be taken up high on a wave and slammed back down when the wave drops I will just go back to diving
off high boards .
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Crusoe
... Although the timing of the sinking and earth quake event and the distance invloved from where the center was recorded doesn't quite add
up......no one could say for certain that the wave was related ......but based on logic(and not personaly seeing the rogue wave) I would bet it was
and most likely probable. |
Where this occurred the sea bottom rises abruptly from a 1000 ft to 60 ft at the shelf of the island. On calm, windless days the outgoing tide causes
a line of white caps to appear at the shoulder. ( Of course, that's why the fishing is good there.) I too think the timing is bad for a mini-tsunami,
but it would not take too much water movement for a big wave to popup from nowhere.
For the critics, the winds had been light for 4 days and were light in the morning.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by twogringos
| Quote: | Originally posted by Crusoe
... Although the timing of the sinking and earth quake event and the distance invloved from where the center was recorded doesn't quite add
up......no one could say for certain that the wave was related ......but based on logic(and not personaly seeing the rogue wave) I would bet it was
and most likely probable. |
Where this occurred the sea bottom rises abruptly from a 1000 ft to 60 ft at the shelf of the island. On calm, windless days the outgoing tide causes
a line of white caps to appear at the shoulder. ( Of course, that's why the fishing is good there.) I too think the timing is bad for a mini-tsunami,
but it would not take too much water movement for a big wave to popup from nowhere.
For the critics, the winds had been light for 4 days and were light in the morning. |
OK folks. The facts are
changing. This one's going south.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by twogringos
For the critics, the winds had been light for 4 days and were light in the morning. |
Count me among the critics. I fished south of Loreto the day before on glassy calm water, but I checked weather reports from several sources that
without any ambiguity showed the nortes would blow and the waves would rise the following day. And apparently, from the original post, these people
were pretty much alone in doubting that. I have a hard time apportioning all the blame on a rogue wave when they were fishing in rough and dangerous
waters.
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BajaBruno
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I don’t want to get into a duel here, because in the end I think it just revolves around what you are accustomed to. In the San Francisco Bay, where
I spent my formative boating years, if you wouldn’t go out in 20 knots of wind and lumpy seas, then you might as well just sell your boat or move,
because it’s blowing that every day, all summer. 20 knots is normal and 30 knots is considered marginal for boating.
I routinely took a 24’ boat 20 miles offshore to the Farallon Islands, and yeah, we would see good waves on the run home, but that wasn’t being
macho, that was just reality. I can understand a San Diego/LA boater thinking we were crazy, because those aren’t typical conditions in San Diego,
but you also don’t see many guys in San Diego suited up in foul weather gear just to get out of the harbor.
I spent a lot of time working with and around the Coasties in SFBay and none of them would think it was foolhardy for an experienced boater to go
out in a sound boat on a windy, lumpy day. Even so, sometimes bad things happen to good people, and sometimes experience comes with a bit of tragedy,
but hopefully, we all live to learn a little from both our own mistakes and those of others. I won't be the one to throw rocks at these guys,
because my house has just as many windows in it as most people's do.
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
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Talk about going south
Talk about going south, this post was about a rogue wave, not whether it was wise to go fishing on a windy day!
With out the wave, it would have been a bumpy fishing trip and no more. If they hadn't gone fishing, the rogue wave would not have mattered.
What I hoped to learn was whether anyone else heard of an unusual wave and if it could have been connected to the earthquake.
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Don Alley
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| Quote: | Originally posted by twogringos
Talk about going south, this post was about a rogue wave, not whether it was wise to go fishing on a windy day!
With out the wave, it would have been a bumpy fishing trip and no more. If they hadn't gone fishing, the rogue wave would not have mattered.
What I hoped to learn was whether anyone else heard of an unusual wave and if it could have been connected to the earthquake. |
There is no Coast Guard in the SOC. If you chose to go fishing on a day that is windy enough to keep virtually everyone ashore, if you have trouble
you rely on the help of civilians who must go out in conditions they would normally avoid. Whether the problem is a rogue wave, broken down engine,
leaking hull, man lost overboard, fire aboard, or whatever. You will wait longer for rescue, and you may be harder to find. I think this incident
clearly relates to the increased danger to boating on marginal weather days. I think they made a mistake going out that day. jmo
Another possible issue is some may not buy the rogue wave story.
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A friend of mine was fishing a submerged reef at the entrance to Half Moon Bay in a boston whaler, the one between the red and green buoys. I have
fished it many times over the years, as did he.
His boat boat was on the outside of the reef with him facing and casting to the reef. "I knew I was in trouble when I saw the reef emerge above the
water line. Suddenly it was all dry next to me". Once he saw the wall of water there was no time to reach the controls or do anything. It just picked
him up and threw the boat down on the rocks below smashing it into several parts.
It was at the harbor entrance so help came quickly. The whaler is unsinkable so he held on in the cold waters (in the 40's). But he was really shook
up. I could tell. This guys used to take his whaler to the Farallones and sleep on board to catch rockfish at first light.
It can happen to anyone.
P.S. I agree with BajaBruno. If you want to fish in glass calm waters in this part of the coast you may as well not fish at all.
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Only three people know for certain what sank that boat and I wasn't one of 'em.
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Phil S
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Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cypress.
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