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[*] posted on 5-18-2007 at 09:39 PM
Is it legal to brew beer?


I was wondering...a German friend of mine wants to open a bierhaus with nice things like bratvurst mit bier.

I mentioned that I make my own beer with over a hundred pounds of malted barleys, and yeast, hops, from the US for my lenghthly stays.

I hate to say it, but Mexican beer is not that great, right up there with American beer companies.
Are there no microbrews in Baja?
Am I breaking the law by just making Newcastle stronger?
My recipes leave me nice rich dark ales for about $12 US for 5 gallons, maybe 7+ percent alcohol.
I mean, IF I did that kind of thing....;)

[Edited on 5-20-2007 by vandy]
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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 07:41 AM


We had a thread like this a while back so you might try to dig it out.
I don't recall what the concensus was but, I would think you should be more concerned with bringing hops and barley into the country, being agriculture products.

Anyway, I don't know.
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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 08:05 AM


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I hate to say it, but Mexican beer is not that great, right up there with American beer companies.


Ah Hah! A kindred spirit (beer wise). Some Mexican beers are pretty good (Bohemia, XX Ambar, Pacifico), but they are in the style of a northern German beer (pils), though not as bitter (some German Pils beers have so much hops that I can't drink them). I prefer more full-bodied beers, like you seem to.

One thing I don't understand is this fixation of drinking beer ice cold - when something is ice cold, you are killing the taste to the point that it really doesn't matter what you're drinking.

Anyhow, I'm a microbrewer myself. I haven't done it in Mexico, and I doubt you will have any trouble - as long as you don't try to sell it publicly. I would look into getting a license for that. Private use is another thing.
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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 08:45 AM


Roberto, Agree with you about the ice cold beer, tastes better cool, but not a couple of degrees above freezing.:)Bohemia is my favorite.:yes:
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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 09:09 AM


Alright! , fellow zymurgists unite!.

I studied fermentation science and worked for a major brewery many moons ago.

Since I learned to make beer , I've began to think that you really can't know good beer until you know how to make it.
More importantly , it's easy to identify a poor quality product.

I've often wondered the same question Vandy ; whether or not you could brew your own down south ?
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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 09:19 AM


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Alright! , fellow zymurgists unite!.

I studied fermentation science and worked for a major brewery many moons ago.

Since I learned to make beer , I've began to think that you really can't know good beer until you know how to make it.
More importantly , it's easy to identify a poor quality product.

I've often wondered the same question Vandy ; whether or not you could brew your own down south ?


I don't know how to make beer, but I know what I like. As far as being cold, some beer taste better the colder it is, perhaps to hide the taste.
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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 09:33 AM


I've got Charlie Papazian's first edition and two carboys in the garage.
Lot's of empty bottles waiting to be refilled.....maybe it's time to brew another IPA and maybe a porter !?
We have so many recipes and variations stuffed into our log book, I'll have to go look. Let's see......Aspen Amber (with spruce tips), our house porter has lots of mexican chocolate and other good things, now for a good IPA ?? Must be in here somewhere.

We have never brought more than a few bottles of homebrew to Baja but were never even asked about it. If you want to bring your brewing toys with you, I can give you a great amber recipe that is ready to drink in 10-14 days !!

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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 10:08 AM


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As far as being cold, some beer taste better the colder it is, perhaps to hide the taste.


Bingo! That's at least part of it. I would encourage to drink beer cold but not ice cold. I think you will find that you will "cull" the lower quality beers naturally, and end up enjoying it more.
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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 10:40 AM


Ever notice how colder climate people perfer warmer, stronger beers and hotter climate peoples prefer colder, lighter beers? I think there is more going on besides pure taste. Mexico is generally a warm country.

I like stronger brews in the winter and lighter brews in the summer, too. Seem to drink more red wines in the winter and whites in the summer.

Vandy, give Negra Modelo and Noche Buena a try. Or even the Dos Equis Ambar or Pacifico.........it's no surprise that you dont like alot of Mexican lagers; many are uninspiring.




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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 10:59 AM


I like Bud Hurricane malt liquor, the 8.1 alc stuff. I have noticed that when it's really cold it doesn't taste as good as when it's just cold. I also don't like it when it's warm or getting close to room temp.
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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 11:09 AM


I remember Buckhorn beer........made Old Milwaukee seem like an artesan brew.



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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 11:19 AM


And Brown Derby, Brew 101, or perhaps Pabst Blue Ribbon... All drinkable when in college and on sale.

Bringing brew making supplies down should not be a problem if in a quanitiy that qualify's as personal use.

Yes! Brew 102 it was. I stand corrected.:yes:

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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 12:31 PM


rts ----

You must be older than me. When I came of drinking age, 14, it was Brew 102.
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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 12:44 PM


Old time beers,:bounce: Jax, Country Club Malt Liquor, Falstaff and a few that slip my mind.:bounce:
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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 01:11 PM


Beer…Beer…Beer…Love that stuff.
This thread is about brewing equipment and legality in Baja. We really do need to work on the legality question…as well as the importation questions. With my limitations of the Spanish language my research has been limited to Googling. If there is someone (Nomad or Not) that could do a little research of Mexican law on beer brewing, if it exist, I would be very appreciative.
The question about temperature is a real tough one…IMHO it is related to your personal experience, as well as the area you are from, and also your desire to change your opinion. To taste the subtle difference of some beers they cannot be cold.
Bodiless beers like Bud, Miller, Coors, and Corona are brewed to taste best cold and are watery to promote greater consumption.
Some heavier beers, as I have discovered after our last thread, like Pacifico, seem to have a slightly better taste at 50-55 degrees and almost no taste, like Corona etc. when very cold.
Before this last trip I liked 59 degree Pacifico, but now think it has a much wider temperature range of good taste, maybe even 45 degrees.
Almost 5 months trip and 15+ cases (24 bottles) I am still in the testing phase
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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 01:14 PM


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Old time beers,:bounce: Jax, Country Club Malt Liquor, Falstaff and a few that slip my mind.:bounce:


What about Pearl and Lone Star, since 2 of your were Texas beers of the 50's




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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 01:17 PM


Al G. Yep, :D :tumble:Your memory is better than mine.:)
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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 01:22 PM


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My recipes leave me nice rich dark ales for about $12 US for 5 gallons, maybe 7+ percent alcohol.
I mean, IF I did that kind of thing....;)

I would like to try this 12$ recipe, please u2u me.
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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 01:44 PM


Pearl has got to be one of the worst... Even soapy dishwater like Lucky Lager was better.

Ah Falstaff! The price was right. We used to call it "Falsificada".

I can drink Guinness stout at room temperature, also Nochebuena and most heavy dark porters, ales etc. but it helps if the "room" is like a castle in Northern Europe in winter type room, say 60's.

I've also heard the "ideal" beer temp is 48. But, if you grew up in the South and were weaned on PBR, and it's 95 out with 100% humidity, you develop a taste for brew on the edge of forming ice crystals...

Anybody remember generic beer in the white can with black letters that just said "BEER"?




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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 02:18 PM


Vandy, how about making a nice hefe-weissbier, huh? I would go for that.
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