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bajablue
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Arizona border crossing?
I am going to be making the drive down through Baja for the first time through Arizona. I am going to pick up a new car in Scottsdale, to bring down
to Cabo for someone. Can anyone give me any advice on where to enter and what roads to take? I would like to get from Scottsdale, to El Rosario the
first day, so if anyone knows if that is do able, that would be great as well. I will be driving during the day time. Have a great Memorial
day!Gracias, Nomads...
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rts551
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Down to Interstate 8. Over to Hwy 94. SE to Tecate.. cross the border...south to Ensenada.. etc. El Rosario long day but no problem
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osoflojo
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Directions posted are correct but I have never been able to make it from PHX to El Rosario in one day(at leat not all in daylight). I guess I have to
big of an anchor dragging behind me.
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rhintransit
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I'm from Phoenix and have always wanted an alternative...I currently drive to Tecate and down. thanks for opening the issue again.
I have considered crossing at Algodones or Mexicali and using Mex 20 to Tecate but have had discouraging reports re that road, grade, toll, speed
traps. any fact and actual experiences on that route would be helpful.
I have done the Phoenix to Guaymas run many many times when I lived in San Carlos. agree good road, possibly good alternative. what has stopped me
in the past is the car import issue. Sonora only passes need to be returned AT KM 22 ONLY within 6 months. a temp import sticker could be returned
anywhere but I had thought that was also a 6 month deal. in another forum recently I was told that was not the case, that as long as I had my FM3 (or
FM2) I could have the car in the country indefinitely. truth? if so, the ferry route, while expensive, would be a welcome relief. one day Phoenix
to Guaymas, catch evening ferry if timing is right, Santa Rosalia in am and home to El Juncalito (near Pto Escondido) easy the next. what do you guys
say?
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osoflojo
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You no longer need any kind of vehicle permit to drive to Guaymas. Only if you go beyond................
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Mexitron
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We were thinking of going that route but we're coming from Fort Worth, TX and would enter somewhere in Chihuauhua and go over the mountains to
Guaymas...anyone here tried that route?
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rts551
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Oso
I leave Tucson about 4:00 in the morning... usually not traveling fast and make El Rosario by 5:00 unless I get pulled over in Tecate which is like
almost never. F-250 and sometimes flatbed ATV trailer..
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rhintransit
I'm from Phoenix and have always wanted an alternative...I currently drive to Tecate and down. thanks for opening the issue again.
I have considered crossing at Algodones or Mexicali and using Mex 20 to Tecate but have had discouraging reports re that road, grade, toll, speed
traps. any fact and actual experiences on that route would be helpful.
I have done the Phoenix to Guaymas run many many times when I lived in San Carlos. agree good road, possibly good alternative. what has stopped me
in the past is the car import issue. Sonora only passes need to be returned AT KM 22 ONLY within 6 months. a temp import sticker could be returned
anywhere but I had thought that was also a 6 month deal. in another forum recently I was told that was not the case, that as long as I had my FM3 (or
FM2) I could have the car in the country indefinitely. truth? if so, the ferry route, while expensive, would be a welcome relief. one day Phoenix
to Guaymas, catch evening ferry if timing is right, Santa Rosalia in am and home to El Juncalito (near Pto Escondido) easy the next. what do you guys
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Crossing at Mexicali a few times and heading for Tecate, we always had one problem---we got lost, but maybe that is just us.  We have also
taken that route on the bus.
It is a good road, but it is a very steep grade. If you stop and look down in a couple of places, there are lots of reminders of people who tried to
come down the mountain without brakes.
It is A LOT steeper than crossing the mountains on Highway 8.
It is an alternative, however.
Diane
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capt. mike
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you can hook up with me
| Quote: | Originally posted by rhintransit
I'm from Phoenix and have always wanted an alternative...I currently drive to Tecate and down.
I have done the Phoenix to Guaymas run many many times when I lived in San Carlos. agree good road, possibly good alternative. what has stopped me
in the past is the car import issue. what do you guys say? |
and fly direct to MMLT if/when you need.
get in touch. Do you know Rudy from here who has a place at Pto Escondido? he was one of the 1st to rebuild post fire.
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Wingnut
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Bajablue, I have made the run through Tecate with Osoflojo and agree, El Rosario is one heck of a day of driving. You might note that rts551 leaves at
4 AM (Holy Cow!) to make that run. You will lose an extra hour just getting from Scottsdale to the West side of Phoenix. Plan a shorter route, by
staying over in Yuma the night before and leaving from there. As for the Guaymas ferry, you have to hope the schedule holds up and make sure you have
reservations. The ferry is a lot smaller than the one that runs from Mazatlan. We took it last Xmas and lost a day due to weather, but it really does
cut down the time on the road. And it's a lot easier drive than down Highway 1.
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capt. mike
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never mind. i found it all thx.
wing nut, how much is the ferry these days? for a small truck explorer ford and a utility trailer, say about 8' long?
i am thinking about hauling furniture/appliances down from phx.
and/or - how can i look up current info re MMGM - SRL run?
got it.
[Edited on 5-29-2007 by capt. mike]
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bajablue
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Thanks for all the tips. I am going to leave from Phx around 5 and cross through Tecate. I don't know that other road very well and I will be driving
a new "nice" truck down, so I don't want to risk it. I will check when I get to were I get, hopefully El Rosario.. Thanks again..
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capt. mike
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blue - trust me, that's a very long day to rosario.
you might make SQ safely.
keep your options open.
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osoflojo
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Capt Mike, their rates are on their web site but with your rig it sounds like it would not be a good deal for you. www.ferrysantaroselia.com
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El Rosario is only a half hour from San Quintin and Baja Cactus Motel is worth it... right bajablue?
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by osoflojo
Capt Mike, their rates are on their web site but with your rig it sounds like it would not be a good deal for you. www.ferrysantaroselia.com |
NOTHING is a good deal on THAT ferry, based on their posted rates.
Consider the Topo ferry to La Paz. Good road all the way down, good road up from La Paz. Much cheaper; newer ferry that rarely sells out due to it's
size. At least that's what I've been told. Gonna try it next month.
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capt. mike
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thx Flojo
| Quote: | Originally posted by osoflojo
Capt Mike, their rates are on their web site but with your rig it sounds like it would not be a good deal for you. www.ferrysantaroselia.com |
i found it and a nogales agent who answers Qs.
not cheap but for the TIME i'll save vs going to tecate and down - worth it plenty plus the gas saved.
so, i am looking at this pretty hard, at least one way. if i get time i may drive it back south to north - never done it that way before, 1st time
driving south i hitched an aeroplane ride back to phx a directo...sweet!
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hook, keep me posted on that trek next month, maybe i can tag team with you. a day or 2 in la paz with a rig would be nice plus i have never driven la
paz north to anywhere!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajablue
I am going to be making the drive down through Baja for the first time through Arizona. I am going to pick up a new car in Scottsdale, to bring down
to Cabo for someone. Can anyone give me any advice on where to enter and what roads to take? I would like to get from Scottsdale, to El Rosario the
first day, so if anyone knows if that is do able, that would be great as well. I will be driving during the day time. Have a great Memorial
day!Gracias, Nomads... |
Someone else's car? Take the road south from San Felipe thru Coco's back to Hwy 1. When you get south of Mulege take a right and head over to La
Purisima, beautiful country. Make sure to fuel up and check that the spare is in good shape. 
MAGA
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Wingnut
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Capt Mike, I saw Osoflojo gave you the website for the Guaymas ferry. I know the time we went down it was fairly expensive for just the vehicle we
had, so I imagine it would be less expensive from Mazatlan, but who knows. Moving a trailer and all might just be better to take Highway 1. But I am
relatively new at this traveling by vehicle. Mostly I flew down and back.
Bajablue, good luck with your trip. Just be prepared to stop come nightfall as you do not want to drive at night on Highway 1.....
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