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[*] posted on 5-28-2007 at 05:33 PM


That's the one. I've got the older version, but they are the same camera. The new XT has a bunch of additional bells and whistles, mainly concerning the camera/computer/printer interface, none of which I need. So if you happen to run across one of the original EOS Digital Rebels at a good price, you may want to go for it. The price is pretty good also, but I did find one for about $500 when I was looking for one for my wife. Didn't buy it though, she decided she wanted my old Olympus Digital instead.

The only problem with the original was a software glitch when in Flash mode. The photos came out way too dark. But the photos could be fixed on your computer easily. I had to have my circuit card replaced after taking the camera on a trip on the Maid of the Mist (don't ask) and the new card didn't have the problem anymore. So even the older ones are capable of being fixed.

But be wary of the "Gray Market" cameras. They are legit cameras, but most are built for the non-English speaking market. They will be programmed in a foreign language and come with an operators manual and software in that same language. I'm not sure if the warranty is even valid on these in the US. This applies to all camreas, not just the Canons.

So if you're shopping on-line, make sure you call them and ask about this.

I also have a couple of additional lens, my favorite is the gyro-stabilized 70-300 Telephoto. Worked great in Yellowstone! No lugging around a tripod for me.




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[*] posted on 5-28-2007 at 05:43 PM


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Yes buy a quality camera as shown, but also buy one of the small cameras that fit in your pocket, I like the Olympus camedia the lense cover turns it on and protects. They take a picture you will be happy with 85% of the time. When you have an expensive camera you tend to protect it and not have it with you when you need it.




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[*] posted on 5-28-2007 at 05:58 PM
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Watching a segment of "It's All Geek to Me" on Discovery Science I was gratified to see something I've said for a long time now. All of this More and More in the Megapixel Race is mostly Un-needed BS.

As a test, they took the same photo at various Megapixel settings, then enlarged and printed the photos in a large (around 14 x 16 format). Among the persons attempting to select in correct order the photos according to the resolution, only one was 100 % correct.

The bottom line recommendation was nothing over 4-5 Megapixels was worthwhile to other than a professional photographer.
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[*] posted on 5-28-2007 at 05:59 PM


Pompano, if you don't really want to buy new go to this site: stealitback.com they let you bid for what they have. They have all the law enforcement agencies and some other government agencies which includes a lot of towns, airports, shipyards,etc. putting found lost of stolen property on this site to be sold, as they could not find their owners. I bought a laptop and had a friend install my programs, a digital camera that was still new and in the box, a set of Penn golf clubs and bag only paid $59 dollars. They have every brand you can think of but only buy the ones they list as good, as those they are saying work and nothing is wrong with them. I even bought a night scope for $65 dollars that I had priced for almost $400 dollars. Check it out see what you think. I have never gotten anything that did not work or that I was not happy with. Note: sometimes the items are listed new and still in the box. I currently use a Sony CyberShot 12X 6Mega Pixels with a Super Steady Shot and it takes excellent pictures and I need all the help I can get in this area. If you bid wait until the last 5 minutes and post your maximum bid, bid at least $10 over what is currently posted and they go up mostly $2 dollars at a pop so this gives you a little breathing room to get the bid, good camera hunting. Later, bajafun777



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[*] posted on 5-28-2007 at 06:10 PM


MrBillM--

Very true about the high pixels being mostly useless...only problem is that the better features usually come on the higher pixel cameras:rolleyes:
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[*] posted on 5-28-2007 at 06:13 PM


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..... my wife .


WIFE ????

When did you and Robin get married ??
I notice her pictures now incorporated in your website.
And you got a new "Toad" !
CONGRATULATIONS !!

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[*] posted on 5-28-2007 at 06:14 PM


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Watching a segment of "It's All Geek to Me" on Discovery Science I was gratified to see something I've said for a long time now. All of this More and More in the Megapixel Race is mostly Un-needed BS.

As a test, they took the same photo at various Megapixel settings, then enlarged and printed the photos in a large (around 14 x 16 format). Among the persons attempting to select in correct order the photos according to the resolution, only one was 100 % correct.

The bottom line recommendation was nothing over 4-5 Megapixels was worthwhile to other than a professional photographer.


I agree to an extent. Anyone that is just taking photos for standard size prints, or for use on the web doesn't need much above 2 mp.

I've taken photos with my 2.1 mp Olympus D-490 and blown them up to 2 ft by 3 ft and printed them out on a wide format color plotter and they came out great. However, when I did the same shot with my Canon it came out much better. The difference at this level of magnification is obvious; as it is if you're going to be zooming in on a small section of the original photo.

Another thing some people look for is whether you can get RAW data from a camera (I'm one) for better control of the photo with photo software. Most of the smaller cameras don't have this function.




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[*] posted on 5-28-2007 at 06:22 PM


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Quote:
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..... my wife .


WIFE ????

When did you and Robin get married ??
I notice her pictures now incorporated in your website.
And you got a new "Toad" !
CONGRATULATIONS !!

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Oh, didn't I mention that?

We got married on March 19, while at the Escapee's RV park (Rainbows End) in Livingston, Texas.




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[*] posted on 5-28-2007 at 06:24 PM


Pompano are you looking for a point-and-shoot digital only or do you want to make the jump into DSLR?? If the latter, you might look at the Nikon D40 and/or D70. I have used the D70 for several years as my workhorse topside camera and I am VERY happy with it.
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[*] posted on 5-28-2007 at 06:37 PM


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Pompano are you looking for a point-and-shoot digital only or do you want to make the jump into DSLR?? If the latter, you might look at the Nikon D40 and/or D70. I have used the D70 for several years as my workhorse topside camera and I am VERY happy with it.
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I agree (mostly) with Ken. A D40 is a great choice - small, light, great quality.

The D70 (actually, D70s) is a great camera as well, but getting a little long in the tooth in these days of ultra-rapid changes. I have one, but that's not what I would buy today. If I wanted something a little better than the D40, the D80 is the one I would go for.

A great source of common-sense info site about cameras is Ken Rockwell


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[*] posted on 5-28-2007 at 06:40 PM


Good advice Roberto. I was aware of the D80 but didn't realize it had a lot more features than the D70. Jeez, the world is passing me by.
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[*] posted on 5-28-2007 at 06:43 PM


As quickly as things happen in the digital photography world, it doesn't take much for the world to pass you by.
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[*] posted on 5-28-2007 at 07:06 PM


Canon PowerShot Digital Camera / Canon CP720 Photo Printer Bundle / New

This is a great camera, 5mp, it is on the site stealitback.com
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[*] posted on 5-28-2007 at 07:08 PM


Mrsfish has had two of these, purchased for four hundred.....this one comes with printer. Great buy.

Thanks for turning us on to the site Bajafun777

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[*] posted on 5-28-2007 at 07:22 PM
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Pompano,

I heartily second Ken's recommendation for the Nikon series.

I bought a used D-70 on ebay in March for $312.00, camera body only.

All the lenses I have for my monster N-90 fit it beautifully.

Any Nikon, for that matter, will give you the quality results
that I think you're ready for.

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[*] posted on 5-28-2007 at 08:01 PM


Pompano,

I agree with Ken regarding the D70S. It is the camera that I am using presently. It isn't too big and heavy. It opens up the entire Nikon Lenses also. The 18-70 kit lense is a great all around lense. The D80 is the replacement and is an improvement over the D70S, the biggest IMO is the 2 1/2" screen, it is very bright.

I think the D80 would be great choice for 1/2 the price of the D200.

I will warn you that lenses are worse than fishing equipment, it becomes a disease buying the darn things.

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[*] posted on 5-28-2007 at 08:41 PM


Pompano, I'm using a Nikon D50 with an 18-200 VR lense and I'm very happy with it. I think the Canon Rebel would be a good choice too. Its better to get a cheap SLR body and an expensive lense than get the expensive SLR body with a cheap lense. Here are some pics that I took earlier today at a Memorial Day service here in Salt Lake City with the above combo(the Ken Rockwell site gives the 18-200 VR lense its highest recommendation).









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[*] posted on 5-28-2007 at 08:50 PM


A few years ago I bought my wife a Nikon Coolpix and got a Canon Powershot for my daughter. This gave me the unique chance to compare both cameras side by side through real use. The only things comparable between these two cameras were their size and their price! Canon Powershot was the hands down winner.

The shutter release on the Nikon was so delayed you could almost see people age. The Canon's pictures are decidedly clearer and the color more crisp.

We also bought underwater housings for both of these cameras for a Carribean vacation. We found it was really neat to use the video function when shooting underwater. When we played them back we found out that the Canon also records audio whereas the Nikon doesn't.

I understand that that you are more interested in a SLR but based on my side by side comparison with these two cameras and my experience from many years ago comparing my Minolta X-700 to my sister's Canon AE-1, I am now firmly sold on Canon. One other thing to consider is the batteries. My daughter's Powershot uses standard AA's but my wife takes an expensive CR-2 or something strange like that. With all of the different places we go, the ability to use AA's is a strong selling point in my book.
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[*] posted on 5-28-2007 at 08:55 PM


A good point and shoot for Baja water environment is the Pentax Optio W 20. 7.0 mp, compact and ....WATERPROOF.... A bullet proof little camera that I take everywhere.
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[*] posted on 5-28-2007 at 08:59 PM
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The Rebel XT is the one. Put on a EFS 17-85 zoom and you will be the envy of this world (I did this).

I had used SLR's forever. Minoltas and Nikons SLR's and then switched to Nikon digital. Baaad idea.

The fixed lens pocket types shoot great pictures, but you look like a guy who needs the SLR action and flexibility.

Never go back to a fixed lens.




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