flyfishinPam
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once the teachers are on our side, there's no stoppin' us!
This link is in Spanish:
http://www.oem.com.mx/elsudcaliforniano/notas/n294968.htm
In a nutshell the teachers are complaining of the high cost of living in Loreto.
"....before the start of develolpment, all products and services have gone up 100% during the last yearand this is an alarmingly big hit to the
disposable income of Loreto Families"
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DianaT
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Good for the teachers!
Diane
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flyfishinPam
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Even though the development is started we still can fight for the right to a dignified life here. Hint of the demonstrations in Oaxaca?? In order to
sell these proposed developments to those who they'll be marketing them to, there must be a trust or a faith that they'll be a safe investment. The
development hasn't even really started, so we have time to announce the very real drawbacks to buying into one of these and break the faith in these
investments like...lack of water, cost of living, unsuitable electrical infrastructure, and sewer infrastructure and emergency evacuation plans,
medical care, an ever growing separation of classes that will become an erupting volcano.......the list really does go on. Read the history of
Mexico, this kind of thing has been repeated many times!
So in reference to a post in a thread that I've stopped posting to, ITS DEFINATELY NOT TOO LATE TO STOP THIS or to re-evaluate the proposed growth so
that it may take place in a responsible manner. Even though I and many are from outside this area, we have a moral obligation to educate the people
who will be directly affected by this. off soap-box and back to work now.
[Edited on 5-30-2007 by flyfishinPam]
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longlegsinlapaz
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Any possibility that you could get the teachers on your side on this too....since it's all inner-related....just a thought!
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Teachers are people just like you and me(I). Have been a teacher. Some of my fellow teachers fit in the "stupid" catagory.
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fishbuck
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| Quote: | Originally posted by flyfishinPam
Even though the development is started we still can fight for the right to a dignified life here. Hint of the demonstrations in Oaxaca?? In order to
sell these proposed developments to those who they'll be marketing them to, there must be a trust or a faith that they'll be a safe investment. The
development hasn't even really started, so we have time to announce the very real drawbacks to buying into one of these and break the faith in these
investments like...lack of water, cost of living, unsuitable electrical infrastructure, and sewer infrastructure and emergency evacuation plans,
medical care, an ever growing separation of classes that will become an erupting volcano.......the list really does go on. Read the history of
Mexico, this kind of thing has been repeated many times!
So in reference to a post in a thread that I've stopped posting to, ITS DEFINATELY NOT TOO LATE TO STOP THIS or to re-evaluate the proposed growth so
that it may take place in a responsible manner. Even though I and many are from outside this area, we have a moral obligation to educate the people
who will be directly affected by this. off soap-box and back to work now.
[Edited on 5-30-2007 by flyfishinPam] |
That's right Pam. Fight for what you believe in.
Especially infrastructure improvements. The locals should benefit from this developement in a tangable way. Upfront.
Otherwise the developer will take the money and run.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Teachers are people just like you and me(I). Have been a teacher. Some of my fellow teachers fit in the "stupid" catagory. |
As ex-teachers, we agree with your statement. We however, usually side with fellow teachers in most areas.
Once in Zacatecas, Mexico we joined a teacher's march and demonstration---on the edge of it. It was right after the last big peso devaluation and
wages had not kept pace.
However, when the state police showed up, we quickly became the stupid teachers who spoke no Spanish and thought we were just joining a fiesta. The
police nicely suggested we might want to leave the area---no problem, we were gone in a flash.
Good to hear the teachers usually win--hope it happens again.
Diane
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flyfishinPam
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hose A
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Teachers are people just like you and me(I). Have been a teacher. Some of my fellow teachers fit in the "stupid" catagory. |
The teachers in Mexico have much more power then teachers in the states.
In the 6 strikes in the past 3 years the Ensenada teachers got 100% of what they demanded 100% of the time. The backing of teachers in any effort is a
plus for Pam
Intelligence or the lack of is another story on both sides of the border. |
Yes teachers are very respected and powerful in Mexico wether or not they are intelligent or do a good job. And this is not my fight, its all of our
fight.
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fishbuck
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| Quote: | Originally posted by flyfishinPam
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hose A
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Teachers are people just like you and me(I). Have been a teacher. Some of my fellow teachers fit in the "stupid" catagory. |
The teachers in Mexico have much more power then teachers in the states.
In the 6 strikes in the past 3 years the Ensenada teachers got 100% of what they demanded 100% of the time. The backing of teachers in any effort is a
plus for Pam
Intelligence or the lack of is another story on both sides of the border. |
Yes teachers are very respected and powerful in Mexico wether or not they are intelligent or do a good job. And this is not my fight, its all of our
fight. |
Okay. I'll help. I love to visit Loreto. Is there a petition to sign or something. How can I help?
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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Hey, Hose A - maybe you can help us out. The teachers in Baja (at least Baja Norte) have been striking off and on for the past several weeks --
something to do with a change in retirement benefits as we understand it. I think there were 2 days of school last week, this week, so far only on
Monday. This has been going on for at least 3 or 4 weeks -- don't know day to day whether or not the teachers will be there...
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bajabound2005
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but can you give more info...via u2u???
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Don Alley
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There are some difficult economic problems cropping up. Prices. Everything is going up. Groceries. Cement. Rebar. Restaurant meals. Panga trips.
Tacos. Clothing. Housing.
Boom times, more dollars in town from construction wages, from ejido land sales...more visitors from the north, sometimesd paying prices considered
high here with a comment on what a bargain it is. Especially for property. That's going to be a real killer for some families.
Wonder when we'll see the big new inflated, metered price for water.
Careful, Loreto may price out the more middle-class gringos that have been an important part of its economy, residents and visitors, in favor of the
planned waves of thousands who will pay $300,000+ for homes, and $300+ per night for hotels. And if those targeted big spenders don't show up in
numbers to support the developers, what then?
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flyfishinPam
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Don Alley
Careful, Loreto may price out the more middle-class gringos that have been an important part of its economy, residents and visitors, in favor of the
planned waves of thousands who will pay $300,000+ for homes, and $300+ per night for hotels. And if those targeted big spenders don't show up in
numbers to support the developers, what then? |
what then? if all of this proposed development even comes close to being all built out our aquifer will be drained and we'll all be sitting on
property that will be worth nothing for lack of water.
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elizabeth
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Don Alley
Careful, Loreto may price out the more middle-class gringos that have been an important part of its economy, residents and visitors, in favor of the
planned waves of thousands who will pay $300,000+ for homes, and $300+ per night for hotels. And if those targeted big spenders don't show up in
numbers to support the developers, what then? |
$300,000? La Giganta has a listing on their website for a house in Costa Loreto for 1.2 million!!!!
Pam's right...no water and property has no value, but what about people who can pay that much for a house, can they import water at any price?
It seems to me that it might be time for someone in Loreto to print a flyer with real information, truthful information instead of real estate hype,
about resources, employment, etc. and pass them out at the airport and other places around town to the potential LB people coming in.
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