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DonBaja
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Help Settle a Bet about Border Crossing
During our recent Baja trip a friend told me that when we cross the border back into the USA that the border agent enters your license plate as you
pull up to their station, the information that comes up on his screen includes the length of time you have been in Mexico.
I can see them having information about how frequently you have entered the USA but as to having knowledge of the length of your stay in Mex on a
particular trip I have to disagree with.
What come up on their screen as you prepare to cross the border back into the USA ?
I have a case of Pacifico riding on this.
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woody with a view
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stands to reason your friend is correct (on the points you raise). heading south haven't you noticed the cameras pointing at you/your license about
100 yards before you cross into mexico?
big brother know more than you think he does!
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DENNIS
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How would they know when you crossed the border into mexico and why would anybody care if they did know, which I don't believe they do.
Probably looking for stolen cars and "wants and warrents" for the registered owner.
Who knows what they're doing?
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DENNIS
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Woody ---
We cross posted.
I don't see cameras at Tecate.
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woody with a view
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refering to tj. they are the same lookig cameras that (i feel) take your license plate foto for the u.s. guard so he doesn't have to
manually type it in (like they did in them olden days)!
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Iflyfish
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DonBaja,
Why would you believe that they did not have that info? I would assume that they have that information and a whole lot more.
I recently read of a Canadian Psychotherapist, author, who wrote of his experience using LSD in the seventies as a part of ongoing research into the
subject and it's potential use in Psychotherapy. He was refused admission to the USofA for ever due to this history. The border guard apparently did a
google search on his name and found the reference. No more coming to the USofA to visit his adult children. No more coming to the USofA to present at
any conferences, trainings etc.
If you don't think big brother is watching you, think again. If you can conceive of what they are looking for, assume that it is already there. Those
are cameras, Xray machines and a whole lot more equipment that I and you do not yet know about. Those border crossing sites have some of the most
sophisticated equipment that you could only imagine. I would hope that one day we could find out what is really there. Anyone sending links should get
half of the beer you are sending me.
Ask your buddy to send me half the case and consider it cheap education.
Iflyfish
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bajalou
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But they still have to walk to the back of my truck to get the license number (no front plate) and they often ask if I have a rear plate.
No Bad Days
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\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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DanO
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| Quote: | | Originally posted by IflyfishIf you don't think big brother is watching you, think again. If you can conceive of what they are looking for,
assume that it is already there. Those are cameras, Xray machines and a whole lot more equipment that I and you do not yet know about. Those border
crossing sites have some of the most sophisticated equipment that you could only imagine. I would hope that one day we could find out what is really
there. |
Meanwhile, drugs are being run through tunnels virtually unimpeded. They can send a spaceship outside the solar system, but they can't detect huge
tunnels on our own planet, virtually right under their noses? If I were a cynic, I'd say they're really not all that interested in finding the
tunnels or stopping the flow of drugs.
\"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.\" -- Frank Zappa
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DanO
| Quote: | | Originally posted by IflyfishIf you don't think big brother is watching you, think again. If you can conceive of what they are looking for,
assume that it is already there. Those are cameras, Xray machines and a whole lot more equipment that I and you do not yet know about. Those border
crossing sites have some of the most sophisticated equipment that you could only imagine. I would hope that one day we could find out what is really
there. |
Meanwhile, drugs are being run through tunnels virtually unimpeded. They can send a spaceship outside the solar system, but they can't detect huge
tunnels on our own planet, virtually right under their noses? If I were a cynic, I'd say they're really not all that interested in finding the
tunnels or stopping the flow of drugs. |
Another cynical theory (mine) is that the equipment is more sophisticated and intelligent than the agencies that ordered them and use them. 
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Bob and Susan
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you guys actually BELIVE the government takes a picture of all the plates as you leave the country
and they have a computer checking the plates as they return
no way!!!
think of the database required to do that
it's ALL perception...
they probably have a tape that is replaced every 24 hours and rotated every thirty days in the back room...VCR if they are lucky...BETA if they are
NOT
at the border they swipe your drivers license or passport
...wants and warrants come up if flagged
"thats all folks"
we aren't as "su-fist-icated" as we act
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Al G
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On a quick u-turn... Missed the the road to Ensenada...I was forced back across the border. The big boxes as you near the US border agent is a
magnetic sensor. I was ask to pull over and wait for an inspector. The inspector walk directly to one of my bays and attempted to open it...when he
could not, he yelled at me to open it. I did and his only comment was...[oh... they are propane tanks. I carry two 10 gallon, as out
side backups...they obviously thought they were bombs. I do not believe they run your plates...maybe they do, but that would accomplish little,
because most are Mexican and I don't think they are looking for US speeders.
[Edited on 6-9-2007 by Al G]
Albert G
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bajalou
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Well, I've crossed into US by auto about 18 times a year for 12 years. Only ONCE did they enter my drivers license into their system, The rest of
the time nothing.
Except of course the time in Andrade when I was sent to secondary when they thought the rolled up sleeping bag under the back seat in my van might
contain a dead body. Locked in a small room while the checked all this out.
No Bad Days
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\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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DENNIS
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No. They do enter your plates. Front and back. I know.
A couple of years back, I drove a Toyota Celica and the front plate was way under the front of the car. Somehow, I had run into something,
bending the front plate back to about a 45 degree angle. Twice, I was sent to secondary because the machines read the front and back plates
differently, due to the angle. Nobody in secondary would even tell me what the problem was untill one inspector, who still had part of a heart,
clued me in to the problem which I fixed by bending it back to the proper angle.
So, the plates are read. Both of them.
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Al G
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Dennis, After thinking about it...it makes sense they read your license. "Common sense" would tell you "Don't use a plate that would get you into
trouble"...I tend to forget how stupid criminals and "some" are.(mostly the young)
If I needed to cross the border...unlawfully...I would hi-jack a car of a Gringo that was similar to me. dispose of him...use his passport and cross.
I knooow...I have been watching to much Supranos...
Albert G
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Bob and Susan
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remember his name isn't EVEN "dennis" 
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DENNIS
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Al ......
If you ever have to cross unlawfully, just walk a few miles east of the gates and follow the Snickers wrappers. They will lead you to the promised
land.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
remember his name isn't EVEN "dennis" |
Now you've got me wondering.
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Bob and Susan
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:lol k
mohammund
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WHY ?
Would anyone care if they (Big BRO) KNOWS how long you have been in Mexico ? Do you intend to Lie about it ? Why ?
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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Al ......
If you ever have to cross unlawfully, just walk a few miles east of the gates and follow the Snickers wrappers. They will lead you to the promised
land. |
Good to know...you never know...I may want to import a girlfriend...for a while...until she cost more then I have.
Albert G
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