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David K
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Baja surfers are special because?
(note: this post may be changed or removed until the final version is made... Please hold your thoughts and replies until then, as this first version
may get deleted!)
This was my trip report part 2, but a few people think they have more rights than others to have knowledge about an area 200 miles long. The funny
part is that this area has been mapped and road logged for over 50 years, that somehow they think I am so much better at bringing undesireable people
to this area and the Mexican road builders have no impact at all??? HUH???
Trip report Part 2 with photos being reposted...
[Edited on 8-1-2007 by David K]
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baja sur
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I did that same trip in August 2004 with 2 - 4x4's. & no internet info.
Can't wait to see your photo's & your daily mileage log???**** **** **** ****
[Edited on 8-1-2007 by baja sur]
[Edited on 8-1-2007 by Hose A]
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edm1
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David, great start (of a trip report) and contribution to the forum, as usual.
This is not a comment but rather a show of support and encouragement to complete your report as you intended, despite the U2U that you received.
I will hold my comments until then.
[Edited on 7-31-2007 by edm1]
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woody with a view
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[Edited on 7-31-2007 by woody in ob]
[Edited on 7-31-2007 by woody in ob]
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BAJACAT
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???????????????
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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mtgoat666
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I guess the u2u was a bit harshly worded, but I think I would agree with the sentiment expressed. BTW, DK, the only reason shell island has not/will
not be developed is because shell island is nothing but a low elevation sand spit/dune feature, and low elevation/land instability make it unsuitable
for development.
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ME
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Shell Island would be in Trouble if there were Two Million clam diggers north of the boarder looking for a good destination, I am sure than there
would be a little more discretion. I can only hope the trip report accuratly details the very real hazards of REMOTE Baja
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Diver
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I, and numerous others have been dreading your "discovery" of the Sisters coast and our worst nightmare is coming true. Many of us have been "QUIETLY"
seeking exploration for 30+ years in this area; away from YOUR crowd, maps, GPS bullsh-t and photos of your Tacoma. The more remote the better,
especially for surfers and fisherman that can KEEP an area special so others can explore without a fricking travelogue. You better brace yourself cuz
your gunna get some sh-t from some TRUE Baja explorers without all your fricking ego that are going to be SICK at your mile by freakin' mile guide.
It's a LAST remaining WILDERNESS and you're going to Expose it all over the Internet WORLD!!! For hits on you website?? To be cooler than everybody?
Show a little respect to the spirit of adventure and let people get a map and explore without their gosh darnn hand being held by their fricking HERO,
David K!!!! Treasured places should be discussed on a word-of-mouth basis, not on the WORLDWIDE WEB. For Hell's sake, think about it!!!!
Who does this person think they are - gaurdian of their private Baja ?
There is nothing wrong with David posting his trip report and locations.
Maybe surfers are "better" than other people ? NOT !
"Other people" don't have a right to this information and to travel this trail ?
And why bash David ? He's not the first to post this info.
I'm calling BS on this selfish attitude !!
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[Edited on 7-31-2007 by Diver]
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Mexitron
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Thanks DK for keeping it cool--Baja is open for everyone...the surfers on the board are just paranoid of what's happened to Scorpion and happening at
Abreojos--most of them probably grew up in SoCal before the surf culture became corporate and like it the way it was before--like me.
That said, it sounds like you got the typical weather out there--I've been chased out of there by cold air and water over to the summertime furnace of
the gulf same time of year! Wintertime can be worse--I woke one morning with a broken tent from a northerly that blew through and another time I
watched my shade structure get blown off a cliff by a Santa Ana!
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CaboRon
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Just a note of support for David here. CaboRon
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Bob H
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The response from some surfers seem to bring more attention to this area! Kinda funny if you ask me.
Keep the reports coming David!
Bob H
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oldhippie
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Being a guy who surfed for many years but am now too old, fat, and weak, I understand the feelings of the irate surfer. Surfers are like that because
nothing ruins a soul surfing experience more than a crowd. I learned about the wall (I can't explain what that is because of surfer rules) by
overhearing tidbits here and there. I had to find it myself eventhough I knew quite well other surfers who knew exactly where it is.
Another example, I once hung out for a couple of weeks in BCS with an excellent surfer from Hawaii. He came to baja to find uncrowded waves. Since he
was going back to Hawaii I took him to what was then sort of a secret spot, 9 palms, and we were the only two guys out on an almost perfect day,
glassy head high. I think he was the happiest guy on the planet. We surfed until our arms fell off. A couple of times on the same wave laughing with
joy all the way.
Don't advertise the surf spots that are unknown to newbies.
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oldhippie
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BTW, starting a thread and asking people not to respond is sort of like putting a cold beer in front of me and asking me not to drink it until you're
ready. Ain't gonna happen.
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TMW
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Great stuff David, I love it. Those that complain can have some cheese with their whine. They remind me of the difference betwen a contractor and an
enviromentalist. A contractor wants to build a house in the woods and the enviromentalist already has a house in the woods and doesn't want anyone
else to have one.
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Bob H
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This is turning out to be one fantastic thread. Can't wait for the rest of it.
Bob H
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oldhippie
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob H
The response from some surfers seem to bring more attention to this area! Kinda funny if you ask me.
Keep the reports coming David!
Bob H |
True, but the 7 sisters have been written up in surf mags and are on baja surf maps. They're no longer a well kept secret.
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oldhippie
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Diver
I'm calling BS on this selfish attitude !!
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Selfish it is and in this case it's a good thing. Surfers don't even want other surfers to know about their secret spots, much less folks out for a
drive logging GPS waypoints.
I guess non-surfers understandably don't understand. Surfing can be an all consuming way of life, much more than a mere sport.
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shari
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WOW, what a freakin freaky thread! But I felt a bit like a voyeur reading a private U2U...I kinda thought U2U's were to keep personal things off the
board. I would prefer that U2U's remain between the 2 people and not quoted....even though it DID illustrate your point...um both points. I found
David to be a true baja lover, not at all egotistical, and very helpful in all ways. I was impressed as I showed him some secret spots that he did not
take pictures of nor enter the GPS waypoints as he commented that these areas should be discoverd by the folks that venture out here. Kudos David.
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edm1
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
WOW, what a freakin freaky thread! But I felt a bit like a voyeur reading a private U2U...I kinda thought U2U's were to keep personal things off the
board. I would prefer that U2U's remain between the 2 people and not quoted....even though it DID illustrate your point...um both points. I found
David to be a true baja lover, not at all egotistical, and very helpful in all ways. I was impressed as I showed him some secret spots that he did not
take pictures of nor enter the GPS waypoints as he commented that these areas should be discoverd by the folks that venture out here. Kudos David.
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Shari, I strongly suspect you are NOT A SURFER, else you would have hidden those secret spots from David.
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shari
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Who said I showed him the surf spot? NOT! Never assume anything! I showed him some other land locked secret spots which I wont' tell you which ones
they are...or even hint at. I'm not a keeno surfer cause I hurt myself and it's alot of work, but have surfed and love surfers and after finding a new
secret spot where the waves are smaller, no rocks, and close to shore, I'm gonna take my longboard there next time and maybe attempt to get back into
it. wanna come? hope you don't mind wearing a blindfold.
[Edited on 7-31-2007 by shari]
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