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edinnopolo
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Type of construction
Anybody familiar with this type of construction ? No columns or rebar of any kind. About 5 inch large foam panels
with wire on both sides. Will the stucco hold this place up ?? Hope for them no heavy wind before the plaster is applied or the whole thing will blow
over I'm afraid.
Comments anyone.
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DENNIS
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ed..........
There was a thread here a while back that discussed foam houses. Put that...Foam Houses ...into the search window below.
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comitan
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Its done a lot down here, it works.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Bob and Susan
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"Comments anyone"
well...
"...and he huffed and he puffed and blew the house down"
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comitan
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My comment is they're building million dollar homes with that construction, yes I know Bob that doesn't make it good construction.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Bob and Susan
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if it had columns it would be ok
no less strong than wood frame
but with out columns how does it hold up the roof????
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comitan
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Bob it does work, they have a similar panel for the roof, they are strong have several here in Comitan one built by owner.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Bob and Susan
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wow...progress
that foam sure insultes too...
there is a couple here
touch the outside and fry...
touch the inside and freeze...
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DENNIS
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I guess, if the wind blows it would be best to keep your doors and windows closed so it wouldn't explode like a baloon.
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tuna stick
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It's called Tri-D panel construction. We are building our home in Loreto using it. The panels are tied to rebar anchored to the slab,which has a lot
of rebar and mesh. Guy wires and braces hold the panels in place until the mud is applied. The steel in the panels is tied together with bullnose
rings. They apply one and a half inches of concrete to each side of the panels. Way cooler than block. Supposed to withstand winds up to 200 mph. I
don't see why anything would explode, if you left doors and windows open,nor why anyone would want to leave them open in a hurricane. If that's what
you mean,Dennis,by "if the wind blows".
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DENNIS
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Yeah TS........ That was my implication but, 1 1/2" of concrete each side? That's a lot. Way stronger than I had imagined.
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longlegsinlapaz
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Tuna Stick...I leave ALL my windows & sliders open 1/4 - 1/2" during hurricanes....reduces pressure on the glass. I'd much rather mop up water
than clean up & replace broken glass. I had damage from Marty, but no broken glass ever in my 8 years on the Bay of La Paz beach front. When you
see your glass start to flex, open it 1/4 - 1/2", you'll see the difference!!
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Mexray
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When they use those panels up here...
...they use gunite machines to 'blow' the concrete onto the panels...just like making a 'gunite' type concrete swimming pool...VERY strong
construction when cured. In addition, the home when completed is ultra strong due to box-like, interlocking walls and angles tied together by the
wire and concrete.
I don't know why this system isn't used more up here in the states...you can just about forget about dry rot and termites as well!
[Edited on 8-13-2007 by Mexray]
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Bob and Susan
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"I don't know why this system isn't used more up here in the states..."
you forgotten ALREADY????
EARTHQUAKES!!!
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Cypress
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Expect this material would allow a building to be completed quickly. Ought be
fireproof.
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capn.sharky
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I looked at this type material before deciding to build using block. This was three years ago. It is very strong when tied together with rebar,
concrete and bullnose. However it was very expensive compared to the block. It is true that it is much cooler than block. Construction goes fast
and so does the money. Also, at that time there wasn't much of it around Loreto. I build using the same materials and construction as the
Mexicans---since they lived there for hundreds of years.
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Sharrone
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We are building in Baja Sur and are considering this type of construction.
FYI-This site is very informative.
http://www.tridipanel.com/
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bajadock
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Steel frame, if you can find an experienced crew, is another inexpensive alternative.
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capitolkat
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check out
www.fanosa.com
The plant is in La Paz and one also in Cabo
Strong with rebar and concrete core, locally made, thus avoiding shipping and import costs, with stucco coatings has approximatley R-50 insulation
factor.
Not promoting just comparing to Tri-d which is also a good product.
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oldjack
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There is a young man(US fella) staying at Martin Verdugo's in Los Barriles who has formed a company to build the panel style structures... I didn't
get his name but if you would make contact with Chico Martin(yea the bartender) he knows the contractor and can get you in touch.... the contractor
has his own house in the area as an example... it might be useful to make this contact as you will most likely be going through Los Barriles to get
to your site..... if you have trouble making the contact let me know and I'll try to help....
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