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[*] posted on 9-9-2007 at 09:01 AM
Telescope suggestions


I know there is a lot of good information on this Board.

The fish are jumping this morning about 100 yards off the beach. Further out, maybe a mile, I see larger fish jumping that look like billfish.

I want to purchase a tripod telescope. I have no experience with them. What should I look for? What features do I need and what don't I need? I am not looking to spend thousands of dollars, just good value for the money. This will be primarily for watching the activites on the water, whether jumping fish, or passing whale, or a passing boat or eye candy on the beach. I would prefer a wide field of vision. I don't need anything that works in low light. Have I asked the right questions?

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[*] posted on 9-9-2007 at 09:06 AM


I had a friend that had a huge pair of binoculars, she, no I'm kidding, he, had to use a tripod because they were so heavy. :)

Binocs will give you the widest field of view.:o

[Edited on 9-9-2007 by oldhippie]
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[*] posted on 9-9-2007 at 09:38 AM


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I had a friend that had a huge pair of binoculars, she, no I'm kidding, he, had to use a tripod because they were so heavy. :)

Binocs will give you the widest field of view.:o

[Edited on 9-9-2007 by oldhippie]


Binocs don't do anything to give the wider field of view. they only give you stereo vision and double the cost. get a good wild Field spotting scope and stay under 15X. get the largest mm of prime lens that you can afford 100mm or up.




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[*] posted on 9-9-2007 at 09:41 AM


I have a 1,000 mm camera lens that I bought an adapter for so I can put a eye peace behind, it works good and these bigger lenses have mounts for a good tripod.



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[*] posted on 9-9-2007 at 10:21 AM


oxxo A spotting scope might be what you're looking for.:):yes:
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[*] posted on 9-9-2007 at 10:24 AM


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I had a friend that had a huge pair of binoculars, she, no I'm kidding, he, had to use a tripod because they were so heavy. :)

Binocs will give you the widest field of view.:o

[Edited on 9-9-2007 by oldhippie]


Binocs don't do anything to give the wider field of view. they only give you stereo vision and double the cost. get a good wild Field spotting scope and stay under 15X. get the largest mm of prime lens that you can afford 100mm or up.


Thanks Bruce, you're right. But stereo vision is how depth perception is achieved, or am I wrong again?

Maybe a refractor with a binocular eyepiece?
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[*] posted on 9-9-2007 at 10:46 AM


OXXO,

Stay with a spotting scope. I've tried, and have , both, and the telescope has way too much amplification and is almost impossible to aim at a subject this close by. A good spotting scope will give you enough problems trying to focus in on your subject, believe me.
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[*] posted on 9-9-2007 at 10:53 AM


oxxo,
Maybe magnification is a better word:?::?::P:P:lol::lol:
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Agree that the spotting scope is the best way to go for seeing down the beach and nearshore area; and less expensive.
A telescope with a few different magnifiers would be my next choice.
This would be more expensive and a bit harder to use but more versatile if you want to look at the heavens, candy ultra close-ups or read the names of boats on the horizon.

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[*] posted on 9-9-2007 at 11:15 AM


i have both too...

the telescope is almost worthless...
too powerful...
not enough light...
eyepiece too small...

we got sakura 90 x 90 binoculars for us and the casitas

you can not believe how clear these are...

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[*] posted on 9-9-2007 at 11:18 AM


Those look like big bad boys !

How big and how much do they weigh ?
Light enough for the wife but too heavy for the youger kids ? :lol:
Or too heavy for the wife too ?? :lol::lol::lol:

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[*] posted on 9-9-2007 at 11:31 AM


And at what price:?::?:
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[*] posted on 9-9-2007 at 11:35 AM


105FT/1000Yards

Net weight: 2lb 3oz,
Dimension: 8"(W) 9"(L)




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[*] posted on 9-9-2007 at 12:00 PM


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we got sakura 90 x 90 binoculars for us and the casitas


Bob, I have a physical condition and not too steady with my hands. (okay guys sock it to me with the Pacifico jokes, I can take it)

Is there a tripod option with the Sakura's?
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[*] posted on 9-9-2007 at 12:03 PM


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Agree that the spotting scope is the best way to go for seeing down the beach and nearshore area; and less expensive.
A telescope with a few different magnifiers would be my next choice.
This would be more expensive and a bit harder to use but more versatile if you want to look at the heavens, candy ultra close-ups or read the names of boats on the horizon.

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Good enough to keep an eye on Iralandia? :tumble:




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[*] posted on 9-9-2007 at 12:35 PM


Quote:
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Quote:
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we got sakura 90 x 90 binoculars for us and the casitas


Bob, I have a physical condition and not too steady with my hands. (okay guys sock it to me with the Pacifico jokes, I can take it)

Is there a tripod option with the Sakura's?


90x magnification is a lot -- you will want a tripod or monopod to use 90x, very hard for anyone to handhold 90x and get good image.
suggest you look at image stabilized binoculars like those made by Canon (and others). they work like IS camera lenses, remove shake due to hand-holding.
10x to 18x magnification is good for hand holding.
Canon L IS 10x42 binoculars will set you back about $1k, but they have really nice optics, 10x mag, image stabilized, weather proof, and 42mm lens diametr so pretty useable in low light.
it's tempting to buy cheap binoculars, but try some high-quality image-stabilized optics, and you will quickly realize that $$ are well spent.
if in san diego, check out Oceanside Photo & Telescope (or check out their website) for good selection you can put your hands on
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[*] posted on 9-9-2007 at 12:38 PM


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Good enough to keep an eye on Iralandia? :tumble:


No telescope big enough to see it from here. :(
And you sure don't need one from your place !
Go ahead and rub it in some more.
Enjoy your relaxation while you can; when we get there I'm planning to tell my very active 6 year old that Auntie Diane really likes to spend time with kids and he should do his best to visit as often as possible !
How early do you get up ? :biggrin:

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[*] posted on 9-9-2007 at 05:08 PM


Quote:
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bob and Susan
we got sakura 90 x 90 binoculars for us and the casitas


Bob, I have a physical condition and not too steady with my hands. (okay guys sock it to me with the Pacifico jokes, I can take it)

Is there a tripod option with the Sakura's?


If you can talk yourself into believing this is the last pair you'll buy, I'd recommend Canon binocs with Image Stabilization. Mine are 15 power, and from two blocks away, I can see a license plate clearly. Then I press a button to activate the stabilizer, and I can read every number/letter as if it were stock still. Expensive, but a great toy for steady viewing of distant objects, without a tripod.




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[*] posted on 9-9-2007 at 05:12 PM


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Good enough to keep an eye on Iralandia? :tumble:

Where's that?
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[*] posted on 9-9-2007 at 05:26 PM


Swaroski has the best optics I have looked though. It is hard to believe what a difference quality makes. Just google Swaroski to find a dealer. They are very expensive. These are on my wish list.

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