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tripledigitken
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What boat do you tow to Baja?
All the talk of trailering in another thread has led me to this question.
What size, weight, & beam of boat do you trailer to Baja?
A couple of Nomads have mentioned 10,000-13,000# boat and trailer that they tow into Baja. Jeez those are getting to be a big trailerable boat. What
are those monsters?
Please share your wisdom regarding hauling boats. I am about to purchase a 20'-21' fishing boat that will follow us down to Baja in a few years, so
the topic is of interest to me and I'm sure to others as well.
Thanks,
Ken
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Hook
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Boats that size that are still an 8-6 beam are likely Skip 26s and Blackman Billfishers with a diesel and an I/O. Towed wet and with a triple axle
steel trailer, you might be between 10-11k. I havent heard anything going at 13k unless it is a 9-6 beam..........and that would NOT be fun to tow.
Maybe there is an Albemarle that is an 8-6 beam; not real sure.
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tripledigitken
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Hook,
The 26' Blackman I've seen on occasion being towed, it weighs around #6600's, with trailer and misc. may push 8500's. You're right it is a 8'6" beam.
They look pretty big on Mex 1!
Let's hear about those tripleaxle 13000# ones!
Ken
I just looked up the Albemarle 268 (their biggest towable) and it weighs in at 7500#s with a 8'6" beam.
[Edited on 9-24-2007 by tripledigitken]
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Paulina
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22' Paceno Panga, on an EZ Loader trailer with 15" wheels & 2 spares.
We beach launch her in Bahia de Los Angeles and in Punta Banda.
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Roberto
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I'm the kook towing the (almost) 13,000 lb boat to Baja and Mainland Mexico.
It's a 28' Albemarle (280XF), 9'6" beam, and it weighs that including the trailer, with 280 gallons of diesel onboard.
In reality, it's not all that hard to do, as long as you have the right equipment. I have a F350 diesel, and when I did this for a living, it was
still a dually. 
The trailer is a triple-axle, 18,000lb rated trailer, with hydro-vac brakes, and carries the load without breaking a sweat. In fact, if you have the
torque to get it going, the brakes to stop it, and the weight distribution to eliminate any wiggling, it tows like a dream.
Nowadays, I sold my place in Bahia, so I am no longer a frequent traveller of Mex 1 with large loads. What I do, and I know people will scream, but I
do a lot of my heavy-duty towing at night. The truck has the right lights, I'm in no rush, and I can see things coming a LONG way away. Plus, there's
less traffic and the truckers that ARE on the road are professional drivers, not gringo nutters in MH caravans. Now THAT'S something to be worried about.
The boat needs a ramp to launch. Or, a friendly local with a tractor will also work. 
But, I will tell you this. Once you are in situ, having that kind of nautical transportation - I mean you can go ANYWHERE.
Here is a (lousy quality) picture of the behemoth attached to the beast, ready for a trip.
[Edited on 9-24-2007 by Roberto]
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Hook
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Nothing like an F350 to make a large boat seem smallish. 
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BajaBruno
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I guess an Ocean 63' sportfisher would be nice, too, but out of all the larger and smaller boats I've taken to Baja, the one I like best is the 20'
Bayrunner Baja with a Honda 4 stroke. Light, fast, easy to launch, easy on fuel, easy to tow, and easy to clean.
I like Paulina's boat, too. Pangas are an excellent option, as thousands of Mexicans can attest, though I'd opt for a center console and a T-top.
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
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BajaWarrior
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We tow a 20' flatbed triple axle Baja approved/rated/tested car hauler trailer. It tows very straight and even though it is long I don't even know its
there after a while.
It will haul our toys easily and recently we have been hauling building materials down to our new house in Baja. This coming weekend we're hauling 72
sheets of 12' drywall on it.
And while this post is about boats and their trailers, I haul two three seater jet ski's and their trailers aboard this trailer with still room for
two ATV's.
Pictured here is only one Jet ski but three quads. Photo courtesy of SHARI in Bahia Asuncion.
[Edited on 9-24-2007 by BajaWarrior]
[Edited on 9-24-2007 by BajaWarrior]
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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Norm
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NICE BOATS
WE TOW A VERY NICE CAROLINA CLASSIC ~26" INBOARD DIESEL, WITH A PETERBUILT HAULER -435 CAT , 13 SPEED !!!!
WILL ADD PHOTO WHEN I HAVE TIME !!!! IBEAM THREE AXEL TRAILER !! GETTING CLOSE TO THAT TIME AGAN !! !!
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Alan
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I tow a 23' Seaswirl Striperwith an 8'6" beam and even then it seems the trailer tires are paint to paint 90% of the time. I couldn't imagine towing
anything wider. The best advice I would offer is to ensure that you have 10 ply tires and a couple of spares.
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Mexrick
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Makes my little 15' Baja Bayrunner with a 30 hp HOnda 4-stroke look like a newborn. I might be small but I can go fishing... and that;s the bottom
line!!!
Rick - MeT
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tripledigitken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
I'm the kook towing the (almost) 13,000 lb boat to Baja and Mainland Mexico.
It's a 28' Albemarle (280XF), 9'6" beam, and it weighs that including the trailer, with 280 gallons of diesel onboard.
In reality, it's not all that hard to do, as long as you have the right equipment. I have a F350 diesel, and when I did this for a living, it was
still a dually.
The trailer is a triple-axle, 18,000lb rated trailer, with hydro-vac brakes, and carries the load without breaking a sweat. In fact, if you have the
torque to get it going, the brakes to stop it, and the weight distribution to eliminate any wiggling, it tows like a dream.
Nowadays, I sold my place in Bahia, so I am no longer a frequent traveller of Mex 1 with large loads. What I do, and I know people will scream, but I
do a lot of my heavy-duty towing at night. The truck has the right lights, I'm in no rush, and I can see things coming a LONG way away. Plus, there's
less traffic and the truckers that ARE on the road are professional drivers, not gringo nutters in MH caravans. Now THAT'S something to be worried about.
The boat needs a ramp to launch. Or, a friendly local with a tractor will also work.
But, I will tell you this. Once you are in situ, having that kind of nautical transportation - I mean you can go ANYWHERE.
Here is a (lousy quality) picture of the behemoth attached to the beast, ready for a trip.
[Edited on 9-24-2007 by Roberto] |
Roberto,
A beautiful boat you have there! You can loose 1500#'s by not hauling with the boat full of diesel.
Wouldn't opt for the driving by night theory myself, but if it works for you go head on.
Hope you don't mind the questions, here goes:
Do you have air conditioning in the cabin? Might be nice to have in summer.
What trailer tires do you use?
Does you truck have airbags?
What is cruise on your boat and WOT, and the respective fuel burns?
Thanks
You are winner in the biggest trailer boat so far.
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BajaWarrior
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Great rig Roberto!
Let me check my wish list, ah yes, there it is, a nearly identical picture of your truck and boat combo...
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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Minnow
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Chuck, from what I hear you will be able to put it in your new garage. It
will look much nicer than that Bayrunner I bought off of you too.
I am still freaking on your Point Loma seafood comment. Best place in the world to eat fresh fish IMO. I can't believe you are not more of a hard
core fisherman.
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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Alan
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexrick
Makes my little 15' Baja Bayrunner with a 30 hp HOnda 4-stroke look like a newborn. I might be small but I can go fishing... and that;s the bottom
line!!! |
You can also fish a lot of areas that I can't!
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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
A beautiful boat you have there! You can loose 1500#'s by not hauling with the boat full of diesel.
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Yes, and now that diesel is cheaper in Mexico I would not do it. However, I have towed down many times when this was not the case.
| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
Do you have air conditioning in the cabin? Might be nice to have in summer.
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Yes.
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What trailer tires do you use?
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I plead the fifth on that one. check the other thread.
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Does you truck have airbags?
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Nope. Not necessary. The trailer is perfectly balanced and able to carry the boat, and as a consequence tongue weight is well within the capability of
a one-ton truck. Doesn't even squat!
| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
What is cruise on your boat and WOT, and the respective fuel burns?
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Max speed is around 30 knots. Boat is most efficient around 20 knots, and gets 1.7NMG at that speed. If heavily loaded can go down to 1.5, if lightly
loaded I have gotten 2.0. WOT = about 1.2NMPG (best case).
Since you're all making admiring comments about the boat, let me tell you this. The hull shape on this boat is perfect - I can run it at 20 knots all
day long, in really rough seas, and the boat just cuts through the water. Into the weather, in following seas, in the trough, across the waves,
doesn't matter. It fishes three people great, four very well. I'm talking SoCal offshore style fishing here. It competes with the best battlewagons in
terms of handling rough seas, and much better than many.
[Edited on 9-25-2007 by Roberto]
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BajaWarrior
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Minnow
Chuck, from what I hear you will be able to put it in your new garage. It
will look much nicer than that Bayrunner I bought off of you too.
I am still freaking on your Point Loma seafood comment. Best place in the world to eat fresh fish IMO. I can't believe you are not more of a hard
core fisherman. |
Yes the garage/house is coming along nicely. Hauling 72 sheets of 12' drywall this weekend and all the kitchen cabinets. I do love to fish, just
backing off a bit for this time in my life. Besides, the shore fishing for Corvina in front of my house is the best around, no boat needed.
I'll get another boat one day, and it will be another Bayrunner, great all around boat. For now, trolling behind one of my jet ski's or kayak or shore
fishing.
On a more positive note, when we're at either Bay in San Diego and I ask of my wife which boat she likes, she always points to the Flybridge models,
things are looking up...
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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A 26ft Blackman behind a 1 ton Dodge with a 4 wheel pop-up.
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[Edited on 9-25-2007 by SBSRF]
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SBSRF
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Underway around Catavina
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SBSRF
That makes your one-ton look like a Tacoma.
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