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Feds answer attacks with police surge
Feds answer attacks with police surge
By Anna Cearley
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
September 26, 2007
TIJUANA – One hundred fifty federal preventive police officers were sent to Tijuana yesterday in reaction to two separate attacks Monday night against
state and federal law enforcement officials that left an officer and a civilian dead.
Rodolfo Cruz López, who oversees Mexico's federal preventive police force, flew in from Mexico City to announce the arrival of the additional
officers. He said 350 more officers will arrive in the coming days.
He said they will coordinate investigations with state law enforcement groups, and suggested the violence may be in reaction to the detention this
month of kidnappers suspected of being linked to the region's Arellano Félix drug cartel.
“For every action, there is a corresponding reaction,” Cruz said. “These people don't just stand with their arms crossed.”
Monday's attacks were notable for their level of violence within a short time.
The agent killed in the first attack, which occurred about 8:30 p.m., was identified as Ricardo Rosas Alvarado, 30. He was found dead inside a
bullet-riddled car in the parking lot of the Plaza Monarca shopping mall, state authorities said.
The second attack happened two hours later in another part of the city, in the neighborhood of Francisco Villa. Two federal preventive police officers
and one civilian were wounded, and another bystander was killed, Cruz said.
That attack took place in front of a building used by the state civil protection agency, which coordinates responses during floods and other natural
disasters.
Arturo ******, a civil protection worker, said the federal preventive police use a portion of the building as a dormitory.
Ramón López, who lives nearby, said four or five cars pulled up to the building and gunmen started shooting. Those vehicles left, but more cars
arrived and the people in them also opened fire, López said. He estimated that about 200 shots were fired.
The attack lasted about 20 minutes, López said, though other versions put it at 10 minutes.
Juan Pérez, a local businessman, said the shootout between officers and gangsters continued at nearby locations, including where he was, in front of a
supermarket several blocks away. He said he ran to his car and climbed inside for cover as other bystanders tried to escape.
It's unclear whether the shooting and the killing of Rosas were related. The attacks came just days after the slaying of state preventive officer
Carlos Horacio Morales Méndez, gunned down Saturday morning in front of his house in Tijuana.
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Anna Cearley: (619) 542-4595; anna.cearley@uniontrib.com
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SUNDOG
Feds answer attacks with police surge
By Anna Cearley
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
September 26, 2007
TIJUANA – One hundred fifty federal preventive police officers were sent to Tijuana yesterday in reaction to two separate attacks Monday night against
state and federal law enforcement officials that left an officer and a civilian dead.
Rodolfo Cruz López, who oversees Mexico's federal preventive police force, flew in from Mexico City to announce the arrival of the additional
officers. He said 350 more officers will arrive in the coming days.
He said they will coordinate investigations with state law enforcement groups, and suggested the violence may be in reaction to the detention this
month of kidnappers suspected of being linked to the region's Arellano Félix drug cartel.
“For every action, there is a corresponding reaction,” Cruz said. “These people don't just stand with their arms crossed.”
Monday's attacks were notable for their level of violence within a short time.
The agent killed in the first attack, which occurred about 8:30 p.m., was identified as Ricardo Rosas Alvarado, 30. He was found dead inside a
bullet-riddled car in the parking lot of the Plaza Monarca shopping mall, state authorities said.
The second attack happened two hours later in another part of the city, in the neighborhood of Francisco Villa. Two federal preventive police officers
and one civilian were wounded, and another bystander was killed, Cruz said.
That attack took place in front of a building used by the state civil protection agency, which coordinates responses during floods and other natural
disasters.
Arturo ******, a civil protection worker, said the federal preventive police use a portion of the building as a dormitory.
Ramón López, who lives nearby, said four or five cars pulled up to the building and gunmen started shooting. Those vehicles left, but more cars
arrived and the people in them also opened fire, López said. He estimated that about 200 shots were fired.
The attack lasted about 20 minutes, López said, though other versions put it at 10 minutes.
Juan Pérez, a local businessman, said the shootout between officers and gangsters continued at nearby locations, including where he was, in front of a
supermarket several blocks away. He said he ran to his car and climbed inside for cover as other bystanders tried to escape.
It's unclear whether the shooting and the killing of Rosas were related. The attacks came just days after the slaying of state preventive officer
Carlos Horacio Morales Méndez, gunned down Saturday morning in front of his house in Tijuana.
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Anna Cearley: (619) 542-4595; anna.cearley@uniontrib.com |
I hope these federal preventive police can be made aware of the attacks on tourists on the TJ-Rosarito-Ensenada corridor.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hose A
The state preventive officer Carlos Mendez left a wife, a 3 year old child and a 1 month old baby. |
Hose A,
Sad thanks for keeping us informed of the "human" side.
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What kind of financial protection does Mexico provide for the family of deceased officers? I hope it is significant; otherwise, it plays into the
hands of the criminals.
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toneart, I often wonder why some posters make giant quotes of that was just posted.
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The violence has been so sad for the families---really sorry to hear that another young man doing his job became a senseless victim. I also hope that
the families are taken care of financially, but it cannot erase the loss.
So sad---hope the surge of police helps
Diane
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hose A
I often wonder why anyone would think the state and federal officers would care about a few gringos getting robbed when the officers themselves are
being killed in the streets, in their homes and in their barracks |
I would hope that we all understand the primary need for the Mexican police to work towards their own safety and their own local and national
security. The in-fighting and law fighting actions of the drug lords and gangs need to be the first priority beyond their own personal safety. All
else will follow.
We, as visitors, may be somewhat important to Baja's economy but for one, we are just visitors (not as important as family and friends to most anyone)
and 2, how can we expect any actions on our behalf when they are fighting for their lives and the lives of their children ?
Best hopes and wishes to those that are fighting the fight.
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Hook
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I would say the fight is the same, no matter the victims. Deter the perps and ALL potential victims will benefit.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Minnow
toneart, I often wonder why some posters make giant quotes of that was just posted. |
Yeah, you're right. Often a quote is necessary to identify to what the poster is referring. In the case of the long topic that was posted at the top,
my quoting it was unnecessary. Just a habit. Sorry.
The loss of any life is a tragedy and it is sad to hear of a police officer with a young family murdered. My sympathies are with them in spirit.
Hose A,
True, the officers are defending their own lives, but I believe that the armed robberies of tourists are related to the cartel turf war.....same
perps... fattening their coffers and at the same time, making a statement to the police. The federal police were sent there for a purpose; to quell
the violence and the drug trafficking. If their attention is drawn to the violence on tourists, Bingo, that is where they can catch some of them.
They, in numbers can do what the TJ police are afraid to do. And I would hope they care about tourists. It is their job to protect them as well.
Also, I would hope that no one would post anything cynical or sarcastic about the loss of a human's life.
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So the night before last the barracks for the federal police stationed in Tijuana was attacked by armed gunmen who shot up the place for either 10-20
minutes per reports? Sounds to me like a move to open warfare by the cartel(s). This is pretty scarey.
I'm with Hook, I believe that if the good guys are able to hold up to this battle and win then we tourists will benefit.
And Hose A... I especially pray for your step-son and his fellow officers.
Nena
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Its a full and total drug war betwen two cartels, sadly the state and fed cops support one cartel, and the municipal another. There is an unwritten
code betwen cops and drugdealers, if the cops arrest criminals from one cartel, doing their job, its ok. But if they target the criminals from one
cartel in favor of another, then the Police themselves become the targets.
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Tone, I was just wondering if everyone understood how to crop a quote so as to not include the irrelevant parts.
Speaking of irrelevant. I wonder who is the more desired poster, someone who has a wealth of knowledge, a love of Baja, and shares it freely. With
the occasional sarcastic comment. Or someone who knows very little about Baja. And is basically a crimudgen. 
As for this story that was posted in the news section. Mexico is in the throws of a civil war. People are going to get killed. Anyone who joins the
police force does so knowing this. The risks are great, but ahhhh, the mordida must be worth it.
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Hook
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Newt ?????
Isn't that a low, amphibian life form?
You want a lowly amphibian for President, Tom?
I understand some feed on minnows...........very peculiar.
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Hook, are you making your case for being the first type of poster I mentioned above.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hose A
I often wonder why anyone would think the state and federal officers would care about a few gringos getting robbed when the officers themselves are
being killed in the streets, in their homes and in their barracks |
Yep, a few robberies are just a footnote to the problems going on now in Mexico. Who deserves more protection? The 3 year old Mexican child whose
current destiny was merely determined by his place of his birth, or an wealthy forginer who has the option to travel and be where they wish? It it
expessially sad when you consider the drug cartels are mainly feeding the habits of people north of the border.
The store owned by the mother of my girlfriend in DF was robbed the other night by three gunman. It's the same store, right next to her mothers house
in a nice middle class barrio, where her father was gunned down and died in my girlfriends arms just 4 years ago. The tourists problems amount to
very little compared to the pain and suffering that the average Mexican citizen has to deal with.
Hose A, we all appreciate what your step-son is doing and our thoughts are with him and his comrades. He is a good Mexican and Mexico remains a great
country because of people like him. Amen.
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Jesse's post is very disturbing...........the police institutions THEMSELVES taking sides in the conflict??? I had thought it was individuals within
the force, making individual choices.
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And let us not forget why all this is happening.
American drug addicts.
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The store owned by the mother of my girlfriend in DF was robbed the other night by three gunman. It's the same store, right next to her mothers house
in a nice middle class barrio, where her father was gunned down and died in my girlfriends arms just 4 years ago. The tourists problems amount to very
little compared to the pain and suffering that the average Mexican citizen has to deal with.
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Too sad!!!! my condolences.
when will the average Mexican stand up and say, "ENOUGH!" and quit being the "poor neighbor to the south" that feeds the gringo what they want, save
for all the immigrants?
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Has anyone seen the film ENTRE LLAMAS? If not, rent it from Netflix. Hose A: did we not give you a copy? If not, I'll get you one. This film tells
the story of police corruption here like you've never seen it (but read about); made by one of our friends here in Baja...
Friends don't let friends drink white zinfandel.
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Ok, if this forum really cares why not start a collection for the police officer's family who was killed!! I give monies to a number of charities but
I would be willing to put some money in. Maybe say a minimum of $40 and you can give up to what your little "pea picking heart" desires. It could be
given in name of the BajaNomad group, money could be sent to Dennis and he could get with maybe the Mexican Counsul to personally give it to the
widow. I am ready to throw some money in let's toss it around and see if at least 60 Nomads want to do something for the law enforcement group that
is trying to do something to take the streets back. Later======bajafun777
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