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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 11:47 AM
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Apparently nobody paid any attention to my post in Loreto Construction about Loreto Bay being finished by popular rumour.
Well, just got the info. that the homeowners have been notified that LB is "NO"" more and Citigroup has taken over. According to my info. they will complete the already sold homes.
Of course one of the big questions is going to be what will be done about the beach club and amenities, which were included in the purchase price, as I understand.
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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 11:53 AM


Also, supposedly in the letter to the owners, Air Alaska's contract with Loreto's Airport is up in 3 months and will not be renewed. OUCH !!!:o:o:?::?:
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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 12:15 PM


is this for real?? why would citigroup be telling LB home owners about alaska airs intention??



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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 12:47 PM


Jerry,
Just relaying the info. I received from friends in town. Real Estate people. For the rest, I know as much as you do. But, like you know, always lots of substance to those kind of tales.:P:o:O
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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 12:51 PM


:?::?::?:Loreto in mourning.:?::?::?::biggrin:
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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 01:00 PM


Ed, I read your earlier post and thought it was a joke. If it's true, oh happy days!!! I've read they have sold 750 units, far cry from the 5000 King Butterbrains was planning.

Please let it be true, I can't wait to find out what scam those liars were trying to pull off.
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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 01:02 PM


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is this for real?? why would citigroup be telling LB home owners about alaska airs intention??


Loreto Bay was subsidizing Alaska airlines flights.
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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 01:09 PM


it said alaskas contract with loreto Airport is up and will not be renewded doesnt say its contract with LB is up??



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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 01:09 PM


Where does this leave the people who have bought there?
Is citigroup only going to finish the homes already started? No plans to complete the project?
I am sorry for the people who bought there if they are hung out to dry.




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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 01:11 PM


ALASKA AIRLINES FILES TO SERVE LORETO, MEXICO IN PARTNERSHIP
WITH LEADING DEVELOPER LORETO BAY COMPANY

SEATTLE (October 19, 2004) — Alaska Airlines today announced it has applied for authority to provide nonstop service from Los Angeles to Loreto, Mexico. The service will be supported by a marketing partnership with The Loreto Bay Company. The twice-weekly flights will begin February 17, 2005, pending U.S. Department of Transportation approval.

Located on the Sea of Cortez side of Mexico’s Baja Peninsula about 150 miles north of La Paz, Loreto is one of five areas (the others being Cancun, Cabo San Lucas, Huatulco and Ixtapa) identified by FONATUR, Mexico's tourist development agency, as prime tourism growth sites in Mexico. FONATUR selected The Loreto Bay Company as the primary developer of the destination.

“We are pleased to be partnering with The Loreto Bay Company to develop air service to Loreto in conjunction with the resort’s development,” said Gregg Saretsky, Alaska's executive vice president of marketing and planning. “Our customers will be able to enjoy the warmth and uniqueness of a charming Mexico resort within same-day service from California, the Pacific Northwest, Alaska and western Canada.”

Loreto is a seaside village sandwiched between the Sierra de la Giganta Mountains and the cobalt blue Sea of Cortez. Steeped in colonial history as the site of Mexico’s first mission, Loreto is renowned for its marina, fishing, water sports, pristine beaches and authentic cuisine.

The proposed flights will operate Sundays and Thursdays. They will depart Los Angeles at 11:10 a.m. and arrive in Loreto at 1:59 p.m. Return flights will depart Loreto at 4:00 p.m. and arrive in Los Angeles at 4:55 p.m. Alaska plans to use MD-80 series aircraft on the route--seating 12 in first class and 128 in the main cabin.

Loreto will be Alaska Airlines’ eighth destination in Mexico. Alaska currently serves Mazatlan, Puerto Vallarta, Los Cabos, Ixtapa/Zihuatanejo, Manzanillo/Costa Alegre, Cancun and Guadalajara. Alaska Airlines Vacations plans to offer a complete range of vacation packages to Loreto.

Alaska and its sister carrier, Horizon Air, together serve more than 80 cities in Alaska, the Lower 48, Canada and Mexico. Upon government approval, reservations and vacations to Loreto may be found at www.alaskaair.com. For more news and information, visit the Alaska Airlines Newsroom on the Internet at http://newsroom.alaskaair.com.

The Loreto Bay Company, a Canadian American corporation headquartered in Scottsdale Arizona, is developing The Villages of Loreto Bay, a series of seaside villages built on 8,000 acres in the foothills near Loreto. For more news and information visit www.loretobay.com.




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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 01:13 PM


Notice that the broker license (CO547643000) status is inactive:

http://services.azre.gov/publicdatabase/DetailEntity.aspx?Id...

The broker at the address is: Edwin J. Ricketts

http://www.loretobay.com/cms/page1724.cfm
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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 01:14 PM


Tuesday, July 31st, 2007
Horizon Air wants to fly south of the border
Posted by John Gillie @ 05:22:22 pm

Sea-Tac-based Horizon Air has applied to the Mexican government for its first route to Mexico.

The regional airline has asked permission to fly between Los Angeles and Loreto on the Baja Peninsula.

Horizon is contemplating flying the route using its Bombardier CRJ-70 jets, said Horizon spokeswoman Jen Boyer.

Horizon's sister airliner, Alaska Airlines, pioneered the route from LA to the small Mexican town on the Gulf of Cortes. Under a plan Horizon is considering, it would fly its 70-seat jets to Loreto on days when demand is too light for Alaska's 737s.

Meanwhile, the federal Department of Transportation has issued Alaska Airlines a certificate of convenience to carry passengers and cargo to and from American Samoa.

Don't count on buying an Alaska ticket soon to the far South Seas. Alaska was among 20 airlines granted that permission.

http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/business/2007/07/31/horizon_...




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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 01:15 PM


WOW...........if true, this is HUGE!!!! The ripples on the Baja real estate pond could be significant.



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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 01:21 PM


thanks for the info Bajaboy



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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 02:23 PM


thanks for the info. can this really be true? so soon I mean? amazing. another great notion...the old Mexican way.

anybody tell CaptMike about this? quote: "I really don't understand all the expats complaining about this project when as far as i can tell no one b-tching has lost any money yet as a direct result of buying a home there." maybe none of the Cassandras of the Nomad board has lost money, but we have compassion for those taken in by the real sharks of Baja.




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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 02:59 PM


Just got a hold of a copy of the letter to the homeowners.
Mainly in typical bullsh#t Loreto Bay speak. Butterfly, the " hands on " sustainable garbage sprouter, is no more. Probably off to his next failure, to add to his accomplishments, with his common condo complex, which "adorns" Victoria harbor the highlight.
The other hotshots are now absorbed in the big one, Citigroup, to spout some more of their nonsense to the gullible..One of my Loreto Friends is supposed to post the complete letter.
So, more to come.:no::no:
Don't forget, you heard it here first folks.:P:P:P
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sad.gif posted on 9-27-2007 at 03:42 PM
Loreto Bay latest news


Just received from a friend: letter send to all homeowner/investor of Loreto Bay. I will not copy the intire text, a lot of Blah! Blah! but send the most interesting parts.

Sept 24, 2007

A series of recent developments have taken place within Loretp Bay Company that we would like to share with each of you, as valued home owners.

Changes made along the way have been intended to best serve individuals, like you, who have made substantial investments in, and remain dedicated to, our community's vision for the future.

In order to achieve those goals and accomodate appropriate development timelines, Loreto Bay's current partner, Citygroup Property Investor, has made a commitment to become the majority owner in the project and, in turn, will provide the capital and resources needed to successfully develop Loreto Bay. CPI clearly is poised to support the long term vision for Loreto Bay, and remains dedicated to the project, as well as its clear commitment to sustainable development.

In addition to announcing CPI's commitment to assume an expanded role in the project, we would like to share news concerning the company's executive management team. While he will remain a consultant to the company, David Butterfield will be stepping down as a "hand on" chairman. David's vision has been an important driving force behind Loreto Bay and he will continue to play a valuable role moving forward. Jim Grogan and Tom Nolan have agreed to remain on board and continue to work with CPI on a variety of key initiative. In addition to working diligently, Jim and Tom will be working closely with CPI to bring long envisioned community amenities to fruition, and further refine plans for the community future phases, while also helping to ensure our commitment to sustainable development is consistantly maintain.

Finally, in addition to the duties outlined above, Jim Grogan will also serve as interim president of Loreto Bay's costum home division.

Peter Wardle will pursued other opportunities outside the company.

In the coming days, many of you will receive additional correspondence from specific department within the Company that will provide further detail concerning Costum Homes, Village Homes and other areas with which you may be directly involved. In the meantime, if you should have any questions concerning the information provided in this letter, please contact Jim Grogan in our Scottdale office.

We appreciate your continued support of Loreto Bay and look forward to sharing many years of future success.

Sincerely
Loreto Bay Company

OK! CPI is left holding the bag! Now we just have to wait to see how this will effect Loreto.

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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 03:55 PM


The plot thickens:

SDE Business Partnering to Provide MRO Services for Loreto Bay Sustainable Development Project

http://tinyurl.com/2fc2ke
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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 04:02 PM


The flags go up when you see citygroup. Defiantly a play on Citigroup. Intended to deceive potential investors.



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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 04:12 PM


Very interesting are the sound alike companies of "Citigroup" and the actual buyer "Citygroup." Time to google citygroup to find out just who they are.
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