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Bajafun777
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BajaNomads donation posting for Mexico Fed Officers Killed
Ok, here is the link to start the pledging of donations in the name of BajaNomads to the two Federal Police killed that left families behind. I will
start it off by pledging $100 dollars and hope others will join in. We need at least 60 to make it meaningful to the families we would be giving to.
Pledges of whatever you can afford but if you can give at least $40 it would help the numbers ring up quicker. Now, I trust Doug Means and FDT to get
the money to the families and I also would trust Hose A. however I have not had the pleasure of meeting him personally, yet.Hopefully, they will be
willing to sign-on to make this a go. Hope this goes over for the families of these slain officers. Late------bajafun777
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Bajaboy
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Just a thought, how about a fund for all the officers' families. I know a Nomad whose family lost family members in the same manner. Why not start a
fund for all the victims...not just a select few....just a thought.
Zac
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Bajafun777
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Bajaboy, So are we talking 3 officers in Baja killed by the Cartel?? I have no problem with that but we will still need at least 60 donators. Have
a good one and let the pledges begin--- Doug, are you in for representing BajaNomads in linking up with Hose A. and FDT if we get donations to get to
the families??? This will probably get more people willing to donate. Later----bajafun777
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajafun777
Doug, are you in for representing BajaNomads in linking up with Hose A. and FDT |
I need to go over this
with them. This would present challenges in direction/decisions, accounting, reporting back, and more.
Let us review privately first.
Thanks,
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Bajafun777
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Ok, as most Nomads that will give will probably want to make sure the money gets to where it is suppose to and using government officials would make
some uneasy in giving. Thanks for replying and we will want for your linking up with FDT and Hose A. on this but the pledges can still be made up
until the time you guys say it is on. Later===== bajafun777
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fdt
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Bajafun777, please read your U2U.
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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cajhawk
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Would like to donate if you have link.
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fdt
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Hold on, as per Dougs request.
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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Bajafun777
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Well, I have had a few U2Us on this suggested pledges donations for the officer killed and suggestions to maybe include helping the man taken from his
home and killed, as the killers mistook him for the Federal Prevention Officer whom they then went back for and killed. These were terrible things
that happened to these lives because of a Cartel with killers that seem to have no "Do's and Don'ts" towards law enforcement and the public. Mexico
has a problem but the problem is also putting any of us in harms way when traveling Baja. This call for donations for these fallen lives is just a
way to maybe let others know we see, hear, and care about what is going on. A number of us have friends and family in Baja and Mainland Mexico and
definately do not want harm to fall on them. Again, this was just a thought of maybe we can do "something," as BajaNomads that would help make a
little difference. Hope others decide this might be worthwhile also. I set a number of asking for a least 60 people willing to donate in order to
make it worthwhile, so if there is not enough interest in doing this then it will just pass us by, somethings good things happen when a small step is
taken. Take care------------------- bajafun777
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DENNIS
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B777.........
I'm with you for any amount. We can't help all who need it so I would suggest being selective. It couldn't be considered exclusive. If we can't get
it together to help the few financially, perhaps Hose A can show us how to buy much needed equipment. Just a thought.
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Al G
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I agree with Dennis and feel helping a family with this great loss is a worthy and noble cause...I also feel for the lives still on the line...IMHO
the money is more needed to help prevent another tragedy...either way I am in for a c note.
If the donation to the family is what is chosen, HoseA is the man...this is to be private. Publicity could spell retaliation for the family.
Albert G
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Thanks HoseA
Good info for those seeking to help. Nomads can be very generous and helpful. Vida larga!
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DENNIS
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Well.....Lets do it.
B777.. Jump in here...You started this. Organize it. It's your baby.
Thanks, Hose A, for getting into this. I think a fund should be developed for this cause. Keeping the effort alive will require somebody's talents,
somebody with a sense of creativity and need. I know you're busy so, I nominate B777. He has my support in every way.
What do you think, B7? This is all good.
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Bajafun777
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Hose A., Al G., Dennis, fdt, and other Nomads----I know the need for equipment for officers are real in Mexico. I know that our local law enforcement
here in Imperial County gives vests, batons, handcuffs, training, etc. to the Mexicali judical and state officers. I know that San Diego law
enforcement does the same with T.J. but I do not know if they give to other local towns. I have no problem taking this and running with it, just
thought most people would not know me, however, Doug Means would be easier for them to send monies to (like the bumper stickers to get them started).
Let me check with some buddies of mine that head up the cordinated law enforcement agency to what is legal to give to Mexico as private citizens.
Buying handcuffs, good ones, will run about $23 dollars and some times Galls (a vender that sells police and firemen equipment) has sales. The bullet
proof vests are another story but like I said when I started this reply American law enforcement currently give vests, I do not believe it is legal to
take them into Mexico. I will need to check but buying a vest could run around $300 each and that is finding a good source which I will do if we can
legally do it. We do not want to get into trouble with American Customs or Mexico's Customs. I just know when their is a death of a law enforcement
officer, no matter what side of the border it is on, the family has money problems. The immediate extra expenses of the funeral, family issues, etc.
I have raised monies for little league, high school wrestling & football, churches, law enforcement fundraisers, and have served on the local Boys
& Girls Club Board, High School Board, and been in government service for over 33 years but I am relatively new to the Baja Nomad group. I will
check into the issues concerning equipment donations and get back to people on this board. We could do both give to families and also get some
equipment like handcuffs, good handcuff keys, handcuff holders, clip holders for the weapons, and maybe search gloves that are made of leather and cut
resistant. These are things I think we could take as gifts without any problems but I will check first. The monies to the families should be done
privately with several Nomads present to show support. I agree about the media, absolutely no newspapers or other media attention could put the
families at risk again and maybe the Nomads doing the good deed. We are not looking for a pat on the back or a picture in the paper, we are looking
to show we care about the victims loss of a loved one. I will also check into opening a special account to show the deposits and then the monies
expended if Doug does not feel comfortable doing this collection and disbursement to the selected families and equipment, if it is possible, for the
police department in Mexico. We will have to decide which department or departments we are talking about and what we can give from what is collected.
We need again about 60 to make it worthwhile, otherwise we just stay with the families that lost their breadwinner, loved one, father, son, or
husband whichever or all of these the person that was killed was. Again, it would great to see at least 60 pledges and it appears now we have about
8. We will probably get more once the specifics are posted, so stayed tuned. Later----bajafun777
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bajabound2005
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We'd be in -- bajabound2005 and bajamigo. A pledge in Barney's honor!
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DENNIS
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OK B7.........
You're more the person for the job than I had hoped for, given your experience. I can only add one thing to your pre-plan as it is. Perhaps we
don't have to make such an international issue of our efforts as would be required. Maybe we can find a small need and fill it. Tanks and bazookas
are out of the question.
Stay with it B7.....You have my undivided attention and support.
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docsmom
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B7,
I'm on board for a donation and will also offer help with administrative issues. I'd be willing to talk with you personally about administrative
structuring.
I think you have a very good point in helping with immediate expenses for the families of slain officers. We need to explore what the death benefits
are and if there is a need for donations to the families. If there's a need, we could certainly meet it. If the death benefits are adequate, our
donations might be better spent elsewhere.
I think Dennis has a very good idea about finding small issues and taking care of those. Whether it's immediate aid to the families or providing
supplies to the active force, we need to isolate an issue and attack it. There are enough of us here with an interest in the area and I support your
desire to make a difference in the region.
I'll continue to watch this thread and am available to you for assistance.
Kathy
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Bajafun777
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docsmom, will update on this soon. Will talk to one of my sources in Mexicali and check about how soon the benefits kick in and what type of support
they get. In fact I have a staff that works with me who's uncle was a long time police officer in Mexicali, a Sgt. rank, and she will also get
information for me. It appears that one victim of the officers killings, the man they thought was the officer, has a family that is definately in
need since his death. This has been confirmed by a Nomad that knows of the family and he had serveral children and a wife who is now without his
support. Again, I welcome your support and each small step gets us just one step closer to our quest to help. Later------- bajafun777
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joel
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I'll contribute. Just need a paypal or other link.
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Bajafun777
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Joel, we are working on this and other issues raised by the desire to donate to help the survivors of these Cartel killings. Later---- bajafun777
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