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Ken Cooke
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Monday, November 19th - Who is helping with La Turquesa Mine Road?
Monday the 19th is approaching fast. I am getting ready for my trip to Colombia, so I have to have BAJA GRANDE planned, and this is the only part of the trip that is not ready. So...Who plans to help out with the La Turquesa Mine Road? TW?
Anyone else? We will have between 17-19 Jeeps, and everyone is ready to lend a hand in opening up this route. We will have shovels, work gloves,
hats, and bottles of water.
Please let me know 100% who plans on being there, so I have an idea of what to expect. Thank you, very much...
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David K
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In case some Nomads want more detail, here is when the idea began to repair the old mine road and make a shortcut to Gonzaga Bay from Hwy. 1:
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=22806
Also, a web page on that trip of last February: http://vivabaja.com/207
The grade looking down from the top, 4.6 miles from Hwy. 1 at Km. 213/214:
It's the mile from the mine to the bottom of the grade that was washed away, where the Jeep club is trying to repair...
[Edited on 10-26-2007 by David K]
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Ken Cooke
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David,
Do you think this guy will make it? Yep, that's Chris Glass' Tijuana Explorer on 40" IROKs!!!
Now, that's what I call, BIG PIMPIN'!!
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David K
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looks like a possibility Ken! Good luck!
Here is the page with The Squarecircle's report when he and two other rigs went in from the mine side (like Ken will): http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=25035&pag...
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Ken leave the guy home and bring the girls. I'll entertain them while the rest of you work on the road.
I've got several pry bars etc. I'll be at the mine or the turn off from hwy5 north of Cocos Monday morning the 19th. Look for my white Toyota. Sat.
and Sun. I'm going to explore the trail off hwy 1 at Guayaquil to another mine near the El Canelo wash. Then head down to Cocos and up to the Turquesa
Mine area.
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Ken Cooke
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Our group will be camped out along the beach south of Alfonsinas. There will be so many of us, I won't want to scramble around to find where you are
(with 15 Jeeps following behind). Plus, I have never been up to the mine.
Maybe we can meet at the Pemex in Gonzaga Bay on Monday morning at 7 a.m.???
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David K
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Ken, once you leave Hwy. 5 for the turquoise mine, there is only one road! It appears to end at the green pools, but drive over the lava area to the
left (south) of the creek to continue to the turquoise mine, which is on the right (north) side of the creekbed, on the side of the hill.
http://vivabaja.com/wayno for green pool pictures (by Wayno of Blythe's B&B Bait store) and on the second page, turquoise mine photos from me
in 1975.
Chris and I went to the green pools in '92 (GPS waypoint listed): http://vivabaja.com/1102/page2.html
Green Pools, La Turquesa Canyon: 29°33.72'/ 114°23.89'
Map from Cliff Cross Baja Guide, 1970, shows turquoise mine to the west of Hwy. 5 (dirt), 3 miles north of Las Arrastras site... abandoned today.
[Edited on 10-27-2007 by David K]
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Ken Cooke
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Okay, here is perhaps a better plan:
Our group will climb the road to the mine leaving
Hwy 5/Turquoise Mine junction at 8 a.m.
So, if TW is camping at the mine, we can simply meet him there.
Be prepared for more Jeeps than you are used to seeing in Baja! 
We're ready to open up that road and play on some rocks!!
[Edited on 10-27-2007 by Ken Cooke]
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Ken the turn off is at 29-34-20 x 114-22-00 @ 1182ft from google earth. I will be at the turn off on Monday morning with a buffet breakfast waiting
for you. Well, maybe just coffee.
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
I will be at the turn off on Monday morning with a buffet breakfast waiting for you. Well, maybe just coffee. |
I can't drink cafe, amigo. But, thanks for the gesture! 
I will see you with 10-15 volunteers, then...maybe more depending on who wants to be pulled away from the sand and sea for a day on the rocks. It
looks like we will possibly make some headway into this route! 
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Good Luck!
Hey, how come DK ain't leading the charge?? I would think he and the SqCircle would be on it. You need to balance the group by adding some Toys to the
mix.
Ya know when I look at those big tires on Chris' rig I can't help but wonder how that carrier and small axles take all that torque and punishment.
Has he had any differential probs running those?
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
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Hope you guys do good. Wish I was the first full size Bronco to make it through there. GSB is going on the jack stands to fix issues from our month
in BCS and assorted other parts of Baja. Will not be back together before we leave for BoLA on the 9th for the 1000 and Thanksgiving with the folks.
Good skill to ya all 
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gadget
Hope you guys do good. Good skill to ya all |
Muchisimas gracias por todos esos palabras.
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David K
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Yes, I will support the effort with posting details and more... But, as for being there that day, it follows the Baja 1000 and we will be on vacation
that week... Thanksgiving is a big celebration for Baja Angel and the days before (when Ken will be in Baja) will be prepping for turkey day.
Good luck Ken and the Rubconers !
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I'm going to miss this trip. Problems at work are keeping me here. Anyone seeing Ken let him know and I'm sorry.
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I'm supposed to see Ken tonight so will pass the word.
No Bad Days
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\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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Ken and crew made it to San Felipe around 6pm today. All going well - about 24 people total. Were duly impressed by the food at El Colorado and now
heading into town to check in at the Hotel and then visit some night establishments. Then 9am head south to Bahia Gonzaga and on Monday up to the
Turquoise mine (fixing the road as they go).
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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Ken Cooke
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Our group of 5 vehicles made the drive from Gonzaga Bay to La Turquesa Mine and were amazed by the technical nature of the road we encountered. After
inspecting a hole in the side of the La Turquesa Mine hill, our groups' Total Chaos-equipped Taco entered the wash leading past the mine first.
This proved to be more problematic than anything. By traveling this section of wash alone, the Toyota eventually found trouble, and then had to exit
the wash due to cholla cactus thorns sticking into its Bridgestone Revo treads. 
Nick parked his Tacoma and pulled thorns out of its' tires while the rest of our Jeeps tried to cover the distance while aiming towards the zig-zag
trail down the side of the mountain located west of the mine.
Our Jeeps hit some dense vegitation and were not able to continue forward just 1/4th of a mile from the mine. With a sturdy tractor, we could make a
road leading to Hwy 1 with no problems. But, with just 4WD rigs and cactii everywhere, we had to do the smart thing and turn back. On my way towards
Nick, my rear tire found a huge hole, pushing the front drivers side skyward, but not quite enough to cause me to flop on my side. These trails south
of the border are no joke - they contain serious obstacles that will make most drivers a nervous wreck.
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David K
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Thanks for the report Ken... So, it seems without a bulldozer there will be no shortcut to Gonzaga via La Turquesa?
Please post photos and the rest of your trip report soon!
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Thanks for the report Ken... So, it seems without a bulldozer there will be no shortcut to Gonzaga via La Turquesa?
Please post photos and the rest of your trip report soon! |
I will try to post photos tonight. Today, I clean the layers of mud off of the Jeep, and vacuum away all of the dust.
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