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LRW
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TJ Cops Still At It
We drove last week from Loreto to the Border. After reading reports that the tollroad was now safe, I felt a tad more comfortable going to TJ.
However, no sooner had we gotten off that road than a motorcycle cop pulled us off. Said we were speeding and not using blinkers. Neither was
true...traffice was flying by us in the left lane. Ticket $140.
We said take us to the station. He demanded my husband get out of the truck (we were driving a pickup with small shell on it and have a dog). This
went on for 30 minutes as he refused to take us to the station. Finally he said he'd lessen the ticket to $50 for not wearing seatbelts and we could
'just pay him.' We asked for a receipt of the 'supposed ticket' (as a lark) and he said he didn't have a 'printer.'
He had no name badge on and when I asked him his name, he hesitated ...then said Fernando. Guy was so small in stature he barely reached the truck
window. I could see the plate on his cycle said MP22.
I know this is nothing compared to what some others have endured recently, but we'd hoped with the new TJ mayor
these incidents would have stopped. We're not kids. 60yrs of age.
There was no gasoline in Guerrero Negro nor Catavina so next trip we'll be more cautious and fill up more often. We saw other Americans/Canadians who
like us were almost driving on fumes. Locals were in line with pickup trucks with 4-5 fifty gallon drums filling up where gas was available.
We are returning there in a few months, again driving, so hope others will continue to post their experiences.
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LRW
We drove last week from Loreto to the Border. After reading reports that the tollroad was now safe, I felt a tad more comfortable going to TJ.
However, no sooner had we gotten off that road than a motorcycle cop pulled us off. Said we were speeding and not using blinkers. Neither was
true...traffice was flying by us in the left lane. Ticket $140.
We said take us to the station. He demanded my husband get out of the truck (we were driving a pickup with small shell on it and have a dog). This
went on for 30 minutes as he refused to take us to the station. Finally he said he'd lessen the ticket to $50 for not wearing seatbelts and we could
'just pay him.' We asked for a receipt of the 'supposed ticket' (as a lark) and he said he didn't have a 'printer.'
He had no name badge on and when I asked him his name, he hesitated ...then said Fernando. Guy was so small in stature he barely reached the truck
window. I could see the plate on his cycle said MP22.
I know this is nothing compared to what some others have endured recently, but we'd hoped with the new TJ mayor
these incidents would have stopped. We're not kids. 60yrs of age.
There was no gasoline in Guerrero Negro nor Catavina so next trip we'll be more cautious and fill up more often. We saw other Americans/Canadians who
like us were almost driving on fumes. Locals were in line with pickup trucks with 4-5 fifty gallon drums filling up where gas was available.
We are returning there in a few months, again driving, so hope others will continue to post their experiences. |
Thank you for the report, and welcome! We need to stay informed on this important subject.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LRW
We are returning there in a few months, again driving, so hope others will continue to post their experiences. |
You didni't finish the story. How long did the $50/fine debate go on? Then what? Did you pay? Go to the station?
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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Looks like we need to fire up the Gringo Vigilante Mobile
[Edited on 12-7-2007 by ELINVESTI8]
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ELINVESTIG8R
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Oh, they just kidnapped a Chinese Restaurant owner in Tijuana. The other day it was a liquor store owner. I think the Tijuanenses need to fire up
their Mexicano Vigilante Mobiles too.
[Edited on 12-7-2007 by ELINVESTI8]
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Hook
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Are Mexican citizens STILL precluded from owning handguns?
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So I have a tocayo that drives a motorcycle # M22, that is good info, now all I would need is the day and time and we could be in business as to
getting your money back from this bandido.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
Oh, they just kidnapped a Chinese Restaurant owner in Tijuana. The other day it was a liquor store owner. I think the Tijuanenses need to fire up
their Mexicano Vigilante Mobiles too.
[Edited on 12-7-2007 by ELINVESTI8] |
I don't know about El Chino yet but the liquor store owner was in Rosarito, right from one of his stores "Don Pisto" on Benito Juarez.
[Edited on 12-7-2007 by fdt]
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When I head down next time, we'll be recording our trip from the border to past Rosarito with a camcorder. If anything, we'll have something funny to
show on YouTube. It would make a funny video filmed from our windshield to show cars passing all around us, and then only we get pulled over for
speeding. I'd also like to videotape the negotiation to get to the courthouse.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Are Mexican citizens STILL precluded from owning handguns? |
Any mex citizen can legally buy and own a
Handgun!
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ELINVESTIG8R
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fdt[I don't know about El Chino yet but the liquor store owner was in Rosarito, right from one of his stores "Don Pisto"
on Benito Juarez.
[Edited on 12-7-2007 by fdt] |
That's right fdt Don Pisto was the name people were writing about in the commentario section of Frontera.info.
The Chinese Restaurant owner was kidnapped from his place which is next to the Policía Municipal de la Calle Ocho
[Edited on 12-8-2007 by ELINVESTI8]
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gibson
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Are Mexican citizens STILL precluded from owning handguns? |
yea we don't want unstable wackos (read recent Omaha shootings) having easy access to weaponery.
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fdt
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Mexican people have always had a right to have guns. That has never been outlawed. We do not have a right to go arround waving them in public.
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LarryK
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Go to: http://www.sindicatura.gob.mx/ this is a site set up to report police problems.
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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gibson
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Are Mexican citizens STILL precluded from owning handguns? |
yea we don't want unstable wackos (read recent Omaha shootings) having easy access to weaponery. |
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Gibson, you don't own a gun do you 
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LRW
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<<Go to: http://www.sindicatura.gob.mx/ this is a site set up to report police problems>>
Thanks for this address, but interestingly enough every link I came across on this site that points to the consulate in TJ to make the complaint,
doesn't work.
Someone asked early on in this thread how it was resolved. When cop refused our initial offer of $20, discussion went back & forth for about 20
minutes as he didn't want to take us to the station and pretended to be writing a ticket. Had our registration, drivers license, etc. Finally he
agreed to $50. Took our money and sped off. Never took us to the station. Our concern at that point was we still had 1.5 miles to get to the
crossing and were worried about being pulled over by someone else.
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gibson
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Al G
Gibson, you don't own a gun do you |
whatoilooklike?? some idiot from Nth America who actually believes (along with the religeous poo poo) that some of the founding father's
implimentations apply to the 21st century??? puuulease!!
(sidenote: dear evolution ... please pick up the pace!!)  
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LRW so what time and what day was it?
With name, motorcycle number all we need is what time, what day and what road and we can get him, or at least our chances are a lot better.
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Cut and past the below into word shrink the font and print several of them to stick on your driver’s license vehicle registration etc. Make the word
SINDICATURA in red.
Estimado(a) Señor(a) (Your name here) por cualquier problema con
la Policía Municipal Estatal o Federal por favor marca al
SINDICATURA indicada abajo.
Tijuana - (664) 688-2810 - 973-7770 - 973-7759 - 683-4095
Ensenada - (646) 617-1561 - 176-2222 - 617-1561
Mexicali - (686) 558-1600 ext. 1661
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fdt: Not sure what your particular interest is in this or how you can assist, but our incident happened Wednesday Nov 28th and it was around noon.
Motorcycle had # 22 on it, cop did not have a name badge on and reluctantly told us his name was Fernando. Very petite in stature man who spoke
excellent English. It was on what we think is Road 1. We had just come off the tollway into Tijuana and were coming down that big hill that drops
down from the beach into TJ when the cop drove behind us with his light flashing. (At the bottom of the hill you use a cloverleaf to get onto the
border crossing road. ) He made us follow him for about a mile as there was nowhere to pull off, and we actually pulled off with him onto a road that
is parallel to the US border fence. The supposed violation occurred dropping down that hill and he said we didn't use our turn signal coming off
that cloverleaf, however cars were flying past us in the leftland lane as we were unsure of where we were headed prior to him putting his lights on.
However we were the only car w/ US plates on that I saw during that stretch...
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