bajaguy
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Firearms Ownership
I have read and "heard" a lot of conflicting information on the ability to legally own a firearms (long guns, shotguns, handguns) in Mexico (Baja).
Can the holder of an FM-2 or an FM-3 qualify to own firearms and possess or import ammunition for those weapons???
Does anyone have accurate information on this subject, or refer me to a proper authorized documented source???
The weapons I am interested in are the Colt 38 Super and
.12 gauge shotgun.
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Bajajack
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
I have read and "heard" a lot of conflicting information on the ability to legally own a firearms (long guns, shotguns, handguns) in Mexico (Baja).
Can the holder of an FM-2 or an FM-3 qualify to own firearms and possess or import ammunition for those weapons???
Does anyone have accurate information on this subject, or refer me to a proper authorized documented source???
The weapons I am interested in are the Colt 38 Super and
.12 gauge shotgun. |
Any Legal resident of mexico can own and possess what you mentioned. There are quite a
few ways of doing it.
The easiest way for a non mexican is to join a shooting club and go from there, they can tell you how.
For a new Colt be prepared to shell out $2500-3500 US and wait 3-6 months for processing, it's a PITA but it can be done and you will be legal.
The good part is once you are a legal owner you can thereafter buy more from any legal owner and only have to register it at the main army base of
that state.
As far as importing, forget it, between US export controls and the ATF it's practically impossible.
Unless the laws have changed in the last year this info should still be good.
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bajaguy
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Thanks, b'jack for the prompt and informative reply...
This next question should elicit some interesting replies......
Anyone in the Ensenada area know of any "legal" shooting or hunting clubs???
[Edited on 2-9-2008 by bajaguy]
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DENNIS
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There's a hunting club [at least that's what it's called] in Punta Banda. It's been there for years and, as far as I'm concerned, mysterious. It's a
large place on the water with an air strip. I'll try to look into it, maybe ask Alex Pablof.
Sporting goods stores in town should have some info. Like always here, reliable info is hard to find and has to be questioned when it is.
If I had your interest, Terry, I'd ask an attorney to look up the law.
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beachbum1A
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A 12 gauge huh Terry? I didn't know you were a duck hunter!
Just do it!
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jeans
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There is one in Rosarito.
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Bomberro
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Guns
I joined the hunting club in La Paz, I am a naturalized Mexican. My hunting partner is an FM2 permanante, that means he held his FM2 for I think 5
years and then sent it to Mexico and it was stamped. The General of the Army in La Paz, has informed the club, Galvanies, that no more 'non citizens'
can enter the club, my partner is the last, for ever!
The only way to get a gun from the USA into Mexico is to smuggle it down and hope you are not caught in a check point or at the border and go to jail
for 10 years. If you are caught, you can not bribe your way out of this, you will go to prison. Your gun will be added to the welded fountain of guns
at the Milltiary Headquarters in La Paz. If you try to register this fire arm and are not a citizen, in Baja Sur, I am quite sure you will end up in
jail....The General is pretty serious about this...This goes for ammo as well...
Other parts of Mexico are different and the rules are different, Baja Sur I know about...Mexican prisions are not good places for Americans to stay.
Everything you have read about prisons are true...
This has been discussed several times on Nomad, bottom line, no guns....no knifes, no hand grenades, no small nukes, just have fun and drive safe....
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Lee
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Arms for hunting
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajajack
The good part is once you are a legal owner you can thereafter buy more from any legal owner and only have to register it at the main army base of
that state........
Unless the laws have changed in the last year this info should still be good. |
Would a ''gun club'' also be able to advise on conceal carry? Esp. at check points?
Or is it better to break it out, and show your ''gun club'' membership. I'm interested in CC.
Also, is a ''short barrel'' on a .12 gauge considered an assault weapon down there? Or an AR-15?
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Bomberro
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Check Points
When I show my gun permits and club membership, they usually stop looking and pass me on. You must have a valid transportation permit for any gun,
issued by the Millitary, signed by the Gerneral, in your possession, and it must be during hunting season, or for target shooting and you need the
list of target meets and be going to that meet. You need a Federal Hunting Permit, with photo issued in Mexico City, a hunting tag issued by a legal
hunting area, and the list goes on....Things like a short barrel etc , over 38 caliber, any millitary round, etc not allowed...
Anything else and its a long time in a very bad place, and they do even smile at you. Its not a game...
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bajabound2005
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Terry, just stick with the golf ball launcher!
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DENNIS
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I wonder how they feel about land-mines and mustard gas?
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Bajajack
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajajack
The good part is once you are a legal owner you can thereafter buy more from any legal owner and only have to register it at the main army base of
that state........
Unless the laws have changed in the last year this info should still be good. |
Would a ''gun club'' also be able to advise on conceal carry? Esp. at check points?
Or is it better to break it out, and show your ''gun club'' membership. I'm interested in CC.
Also, is a ''short barrel'' on a .12 gauge considered an assault weapon down there? Or an AR-15? |
I guess
I wasnt real clear when I said join a shooting club. Forget the hunting clubs, too restrictive and a different set of rules and you will be restricted
on size and types of weapons.
If you want anything over .380 in an auto or .38 Special in a revolver you have to join an IPSC shooting club, theres one in TJ that can get you what
you want.
Once you have the permit you can do and go pretty much anywhere without any hassle.
As far as CC permits are concerned yes they are available but be prepared to fork over a ****load of cash. If you gotta ask how much then you probably
cant afford it.
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by beachbum1A
A 12 gauge huh Terry? I didn't know you were a duck hunter!
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Winchester Model 1897.....quack, quack
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bajabound2005
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Terry - you know who to talk to to get where you want to go and it's not via baja nomad...well, it is, but in a more covert way.
Friends don't let friends drink white zinfandel.
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bajaguy
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Yup, just trolling for information. Great responses!!!
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Woooosh
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While we're on the subject... what's the status of police-style TASER guns in Mexico?
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bajamigo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
There's a hunting club [at least that's what it's called] in Punta Banda. It's been there for years and, as far as I'm concerned, mysterious. It's a
large place on the water with an air strip. I'll try to look into it, maybe ask Alex Pablof.
Sporting goods stores in town should have some info. Like always here, reliable info is hard to find and has to be questioned when it is.
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You're right about the mystery. In the past, people like JohnWayne and Bing Crosby would come down for the duck hunting. Apparently, Miguel in Ramajal
has pictures.
I understand that today it's really exclusive. You have to have bajaguy-type money to get anywhere near it. BTW, it's the place along the Maneadero
road that has this amusing sign:
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