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[*] posted on 2-11-2008 at 08:47 AM
Terminal Illnes...my computer has it....HELP!!!


Help amigos...my old computer who has been nursed back to health too many times is on it's way to PC heaven after years of loyal service. Now all you nerds out there...I need some advice here...I'm "peso strapped" at the moment and would like some suggestions of how and what computer to look for....is used OK...I do alot of photo work and need space and some speed would be nice too. Anyone out there have a used model I could buy that would serve our needs? thanks nomads...



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[*] posted on 2-11-2008 at 09:54 AM
Cheap Computers ?


IF you're interested in the BEST Buy and can order from U.S. sources, www.tigerdirect.com, my personal favorite for years, has both Desktop and Laptop Factory Refurbished computers with XP Pro Operating Systems starting at below $200 w/o monitor.

Over the years, I've bought numerous Refurbs from them with no problems. The last two being an IBM Netvista Desktop for $199 and an HP D530 for the same price. The HP seems to be the better deal of the two. Both are in service and working well.

Coincidentally, the latest issue of either PC World or PC Magazine (I take both) has an article rating Tigerdirect.com and NewEgg.com as the two BEST computer vendors and resellers.

They have great deals on New Computers, too, starting around $300 w/o monitor. Win XP still available. You can avoid Vista. That's another bonus.
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[*] posted on 2-11-2008 at 10:05 AM


I doubt I'll ever buy another computer that isn't a laptop. Too versatile with almost none of the drawbacks that laptops used to have (lack of storage, slower CPU speed, lack of interfacing connectors). Of course, I dont mind lugging around a 17inch one around; some may. So, monitor size isnt a problem for me.

Tigerdirect is a great source. Avoiding Vista is also good advice.




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eureka.gif posted on 2-11-2008 at 10:10 AM


shari, you need to do what we did as we are also peso straped, get a computer from Telmex, $0.00 pesos down and monthly payments on your phone bill. There is really a huge selection and we also found that that way you get the top of the line.
I would recomend this one for you and its only $200 pesos per month, at todays rate you are looking at about $18 dollars.

It comes complete with everything you might need and a lot more.
Procesador Intel® Celeron® 215
Disco duro de 80 GB y 1 GB de RAM
Quemador de CD
Windows Vista Starter
Monitor CRT de 17”
1 año de garantía

Con cargo en tu Recibo TELMEX:

13 mensualidades de $ 528
24 mensualidades de $ 299
36 mensualidades de $ 211




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[*] posted on 2-11-2008 at 10:17 AM


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Tigerdirect is a great source. Avoiding Vista is also good advice.


Why is that?
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[*] posted on 2-11-2008 at 10:30 AM


Mr.Bill...you may be right on that...why have all the clutter of a big computer...do others agree that a laptop is the way to go? What are the drawbacks...can you get those on that tiger site too? hmmm...thanks all for the advise...in informed decision is a good thing!



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[*] posted on 2-11-2008 at 10:48 AM


We have a Dell "desktop replacement" with 17" monitior, Inspiron model. It's fantastic. We travel with it and use it to watch DVDs; heck you can even hook up cable to it for TV. Lots of storage space, too. But, it ain't cheap...might be some refurbs out there, though.

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[*] posted on 2-11-2008 at 11:25 AM
Laptops


The last two of my computers have been laptops after HP desktops, Dell desktops, and I'm about to get a new sony varios with biometric security system. I'l never buy another desktop as the newer laptops have all the storage capacity you could need and the speed with 3 plus gigs is great- carry it everywhere-

Like Dell, but am willing to try Sony due to lots of support from associates who think they are the best ever and they all had Dell before sony.

Can't help on the refurbished question-




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telmex has a wide selection of laptops also if that is what you decide on.



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[*] posted on 2-11-2008 at 12:12 PM


I have a new dell laptop and I like the laptop aspect but I hate Vista.
I really think you would be happier with a computer that doesn't run Vista.
That's just my opinion or should I say my 2 cents...
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[*] posted on 2-11-2008 at 12:29 PM


Opinion from my computer Guru son--------

"Vista - don't like it myself, wish they never put it out, but they did. To shy away from it is a mistake though. XP wont be supported by Microsoft (it's only supported now in terms of patching security holes) and you will be out of date and dealing with having to upgrade to Vista within a year."

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The three major drawbacks are:

1-not as secure from theft as most desktops. You will eventually be forced to leave it in your car at some point. Make allowances for this in your vehicle.

2-not very user friendly for upgrading or replacing a specific device that might fail.

3-still a slight premium in price over similar capabilites in a desktop. But the difference has come way down.


Roberto, I assume you mean the "avoiding Vista" part. No first hand experience. It's just what the Windows savvy people I know have told me. I have always liked XP, anyway.




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[*] posted on 2-11-2008 at 12:39 PM


Shari,
I have a new HP laptop on it's`way (with my daughter) as we speak. She already has one just like this one & says she dont find dealing with Vista such a Big problem but it is different than we are all used to. I will keep you posted on my experiences with it as it goes. Have some friends that have Vista & say it just takes getting used to it. Others say "No WAy" so order a Dell with XP as they don't like what they hear about Vista.
So guess it's a "to each his own" issue?
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[*] posted on 2-11-2008 at 12:43 PM


laptop for all reasons stated above
Toshiba ... the 'toyota' of laptops
vista is fine for your application (as long as you have at least 1GB RAM)
avoid DELL imo

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[*] posted on 2-11-2008 at 01:10 PM


Is it still the case that you can bring laptops into Mexico without problems at customs, but not desktops?
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[*] posted on 2-11-2008 at 01:14 PM


Acuity, we have hauling our PC's down to Baja for the last 10yrs or so. Never had a problem. They would be in the cab right behind the driver seat. I now have a laptop we take but hubby still hauls his PC down each time. No problemo...
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[*] posted on 2-11-2008 at 01:28 PM


I think you will be lucky if you can find any recently refurbished units running XP.
Like Mr Bill said, Vista has problems.
I love owning a laptop with all the groovey stuff you can do with it. I have a big HP unit and despite it's thickness and weight it has performed pretty well. I regularly "Baja test" it. :lol:
The downside is the inability to upgrade internal hardware features. You can't just pop in more ram or a bigger HD. That means if you need more memory storage you need external sticks or hardware. That's no problem if you don't mind stuff hanging off the sides of your unit.
Oh yeah, when you get a new unit, make sure it's got DVD "burn" capability, not just "read" capability. DVDs hold much more data than CDs.




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[*] posted on 2-11-2008 at 02:18 PM


Do yourself the biggest favor you possibly can with regards to a personal computer and get a Mac - you will never go back - I promise. Even my old man (a corporate financial VP) has made the switch and can't believe its as good and/or easy as it is. Since the release of the ultra thin model, you will be able to buy powerbooks and substantial discounts online - I suggest a used or refurbished one from Ebay.



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[*] posted on 2-11-2008 at 02:48 PM


I have both PC and Laptop. Mrsfish is Apple.

In your situation I would recommend staying away from Apple. They often change their systems and do not support old applications.

I have seen and used your current PC.

There are advantages to having a work station as you do: Think about your use. Do you want to change your use? Laptops are very handy and do not take up as much space. New ones have good screen size and excellent resolution. 1 gig Ram is essential for speedy processing of images. Vista is ok for your use, I have it, experience a bit more lockups but not a lot more than with XP. I like XP but most new puters are bundled with Vista. Laptops are easier to drop, misplace, spill on, get lost or stolen.

Computers like yours are relatively easy to upgrade and add hardware. I am not suggesting that you upgrade your current PC as it is old and really outdated. However the sort of PC that you have now is easy to add parts to, much easier than a laptop. You can get more computer for your money going with a PC as you are not paying for the portability.

Parts are not very expensive for a land unit and the Tiger Direct resource is excellent. You always run the risk of damage to a laptop in remote, dusty, salty enviorments and you might want to consider that as part of your mix.

The advantages of a laptop are of course it's portability. There are however batteries that need to be charged and replaced over time and it is hard to "upgrade" the hardware.

I have a Toshiba Satellite for the road, it's my second and it is relatively bullit proof. The new Toshiba Satellites come with Vista, which I too have problems with but not insurmountable. I doubt that with your use that it would be a big problem for you. The Satellite also comes with a dual core processor and does really well finding and hooking up to wifi hotspots. This is a wonderful feature on the road.

We use our laptop as a DVD player on the road with powered external speakers and really like it. The resolution of the DVD is finer on a computer as the reader processes data faster than a DVD/TV set up.

Power. Computers are sensitive to power shifts and it is important to have a good surge protector for either a laptop or PC. If you have a PC it would just stay attached to your computer. Clean your PC fans, filters etc often, you are in a dusty enviorment with pets. Heat is the enemy of computers.

You are in a dusty and salty enviorment with pets and it is very important to "blow out" dust and detritis that accumulates on fans, filters etc and this is particularly true of computers that are stored on the ground. Heat and dust enemies of computers.

Ultimately you will probably want both a laptop and PC. Being on the road for 4-6 months of the year I have started to use my laptop as my sole computer.

Sharks is right about burn capacity and storeage. I have purchased and now religiously use an external HD, about $100, to back up my laptop. I had the horrible experience of my first toshiba burning itself up in Arizona and had to hire a guru to save what he could off my HD. Make it a habit of backing up your PC and Laptop on an external hard drive. You might want to purchase a high capacity external hard drive now in order to insure that your current files etc. will not be lost in the transition.

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I use Windows Live OneCare to automaticaly download fixes and upgrades to my computer. Easy to use and takes care of many maintenance issues automatically, reminds me to periodicaly download files to external HD. It comes automatically on a trial basis with a new Toshiba Satellite. I researched laptops before buying and the characterization of the Toshiba Satellite as a Toyota is a good one. There are laptops with more bells and whistles, but the Toshiba is a reliable workhorse.

I also use a good spyware (Webroot Spy Sweeper)and seperate virus program (Windows LIve OneCare) to protect from unwanted guests.

Knowing you and your use I would suggest that you bite the bullit and get the best you can get as you will tend to have this for a long time. Get as much HD space as you can with as much RAM as you can afford. You will be amazed at the amount of HD you will use over time. And don't forget to invest in a high capacity external hard drive to keep your files secure off you computer. At some time you will need this and will kick yourself heartily if you have not backed up your files. We are all one spilled cup of coffee or drop of our laptop away from wiping out our hard drives.

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[*] posted on 2-11-2008 at 02:57 PM


In regards to Bajamatic's comments about Apple. Mrsfish loves her Apple and when it comes to image processing, there is no better. I do however watch her needing to buy new computers frequently, three now, when Apple moves to a new operating system and no longer supports prior releases.

I have found on the road that I have fewer problems connecting to the internet with my Toshiba Satellite than Mrsfish does with her Apple.

I don't want to rekindle the Apple/PC wars here and those who have Apples seem to love them, Mrsfish and her buddies sure love theirs. I can tell you that traveling accross the country with Mrsfish and her Apple that it was difficult to find locations for service, support etc. Here in the Beaverton area we have three Mac Stores readily available, not so around the country. Mexico?????

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