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thebajarunner
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Clamming? Legal or not??
We heard various versions of this.
Does anyone know the real story?
Is it legal, with a valid license, to take clams, and/or oysters?
(Obviously this is for information purposes only.....
no one in our crowd would dig the sand for shell fish)
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CaboRon
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Only legal for Mexicans to take shell fish.
And why wouldn't you dig the sand for shell fish, it is a great tradition.
CaboRon
[Edited on 2-21-2008 by CaboRon]
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tp
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There is no "story". As CaboRon already stated correctly: it is illegal for Gringos.
Clams, Lobsters any shellfish. Illegal.
IMPORTANT: Turtles are even illegal for Mexicans to catch.
Although offered everywhere, don't let you get cought to buy one.
Jail time for you and the seller.
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bajaboolie
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Wow, even for a light meal for the family? (clams)
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tp
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaboolie
Wow, even for a light meal for the family? (clams) |
Wow, you are coming to Mulege since you were 3.
Now you are coming w/ husband and kid.
So you must be at least 13.
And did not learn a **** thing about Mexico within those 10 years?
Wow
[Edited on 2-21-2008 by Hose A]
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bajaboolie
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Wow, you are coming to Mulege since you were 3.
Now you are coming w/ husband and kid.
So you must be at least 13.
And did not learn a **** thing about Mexico within those 10 years?
Wow
[Edited on 2-21-2008 by Hose A] |
tp, just don't go there.
I'm asking a legitimate question. This is (supposedly) a board where people who share a love for Baja share information and comraderie. I've never
claimed to know all the Mexican laws, and I doubt you do either. Why would I know that? I don't even go clamming, but if presented the opportunity I
would have.
Your rude response was unnecessary.
Bajaboolie
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tp
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaboolie
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Wow, you are coming to Mulege since you were 3.
Now you are coming w/ husband and kid.
So you must be at least 13.
And did not learn a **** thing about Mexico within those 10 years?
Wow
[Edited on 2-21-2008 by Hose A] |
tp, just don't go there.
I'm asking a legitimate question. This is (supposedly) a board where people who share a love for Baja share information and comraderie. I've never
claimed to know all the Mexican laws, and I doubt you do either. Why would I know that? I don't even go clamming, but if presented the opportunity I
would have.
Your rude response was unnecessary. |
Are You saying rude response?
Come on. It was a straight up response and not rude at all.
You are coming to Baja for at least 10 years, maybe 20 or 30 ??
And you wanna tell us that you never talked with anybody about clamming?
That you didn't know/learn in 20 or so years what others learn in just one summer, that is rude (But in a different way.)
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Gadget
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tp
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaboolie
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Wow, you are coming to Mulege since you were 3.
Now you are coming w/ husband and kid.
So you must be at least 13.
And did not learn a **** thing about Mexico within those 10 years?
Wow
[Edited on 2-21-2008 by Hose A] |
tp, just don't go there.
I'm asking a legitimate question. This is (supposedly) a board where people who share a love for Baja share information and comraderie. I've never
claimed to know all the Mexican laws, and I doubt you do either. Why would I know that? I don't even go clamming, but if presented the opportunity I
would have.
Your rude response was unnecessary. |
Are You saying rude response?
Come on. It was a straight up response and not rude at all.
You are coming to Baja for at least 10 years, maybe 20 or 30 ??
And you wanna tell us that you never talked with anybody about clamming?
That you didn't know/learn in 20 or so years what others learn in just one summer, that is rude (But in a different way.) |
TP??? Interesting handle. I've noticed your posts and so has the moderator. For only 30 + posts you sure have a crank on already. Why post an
answer to an innocent question with ranchor and cursing? How do you know how long this guy has been going to Baja, and so what anyway? I can hardly
wait to see what your posts are like at 300 if your this groutchy now. 
"Mankind will not be judged by their faults, but by the direction of their lives." Leo Giovinetti
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thebajarunner
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Boolie- I'm with you
Not to enlarge upon this emerging catfight,
but I have been a regular in Baja since 1971 and have just discovered this year that there was an "issue" concerning clamming.
And yeah, rude responses don't need to find a home here.
(since I started the thread I guess I am entitled to chime in)
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TonyC
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But it's ok to buy clams, oysters, and shrimp right? Also not ok to buy lobster, correct? Heading down to San Quintin friday to look for the shrimp
farm.
TP don't reply, don't want....don't need your input. Your personal attack to bajaboolie's question totally out of line.
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TonyC
But it's ok to buy clams, oysters, and shrimp right? Also not ok to buy lobster, correct? Heading down to San Quintin friday to look for the shrimp
farm.
TP don't reply, don't want....don't need your input. Your personal attack to bajaboolie's question totally out of line. |
Now that is an interesting question... I have been comming to Baja since the early fiftys and didn't know it was illegal to buy lobster.... I buy them
all the time....does anyone have the definitive answer to the lobster issue .... I, of course know we can't take them from the water.
CaboRon
[Edited on 2-21-2008 by CaboRon]
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bajadave1
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Why not "google" The regs?, or try mexfish.com. NO invertebrates in toto. license info also.
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4baja
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yes it is illegal to take shellfish BUT, i have allways been told that if it is for your own consumption and you do not transport(like to the states)
that they will look the otherway. we have never had a problem with the law and a few times have provided clams to the feds that were camping nearby. i
think it allso depends on the area your at and the type of clam. i think they have more of a problem pismo clams then they do say chocolates.
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Don Alley
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For gringos, taking clams is illegal.
But it is customarily allowed, in small quantities for personal consumption.
In the fast-growing Loreto area, procedures and enforcement of laws are evolving, perhaps in other areas as well. So customs can change.
Therefore, it's not a bad idea to ask from time to time what is allowed.
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shari
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Regs change all the time as do local customs...here in our neck of the desert nobody can take the nice big yummy pismo clams...Juan is a fisherman
with the coop and he can't even get em legally...hands off. But they wash up on the beach in a big swell and you can pick them up then.
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TonyC
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With regards to clamming, the small manila looking clams seem to be ok, with the military. Last Dec. I was clamming with my Pops (79 yrs. young) in El
Socorro. My Pops says to me there's some soldiers walking towards us. I told him to quit fooling around, he said no joke look. I look towards the
beach, and sure enough 5 soldiers all carrying autos. walking to us. With my limited spanish I ask them if I was doing anything wrong. They just
wanted to warn us about the tsunami warning that week, now it gets good. They ask to see what we were doing, and I showed them them the clams. 3 of
them start turning over rocks looking, so I said used my small hand weeding tool I use. Now I've 3 soldiers clamming with us while the other 2 were
holding the weapons. Es Mexico man....love it here. I wish I had a camera.
Lobsters, my buddy Greg was going thru the military check point before Ensenada, when they saw that he had lobsters in the cooler. His spainsh is
excellent, but it took him a little over an hour to talk himself out of the situation. Got off with a don't do it again, and they let him keep the
lobsters.
Pismos I believe same as lobsters, but I've brought them to the states, cleaned in kilo zip bags when purchase them. No problem with the check point.
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TonyC
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OK, I'm a junior nomad now. I would like to thank my family, the academy, and most of all my nomad family for making this possible.
Tony C. 
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
. But they wash up on the beach in a big swell and you can pick them up then. |
Are those the ones with the stamp " I was washed up " on them.
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Oso
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Nothing like buying "fresh" clams from a guy on the side of the road after they've been sitting in the sun all day. Yummy, yummy.
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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vandenberg
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I know a few spots on Mag bay whre ,at low tide, the clams are so plentyful and right on the surface, that you can fill, with 2 people, a 44 quart
cooler in about half an hour. Manillas and butterclams.
Always struck me funny that the Mexican people don't show any interest in them as a food staple. Except maybe for the chocolates, which in my book are
among the most undesirable, Usually tough and stringy. But, maybe, the guys that dive for them ,here in Loreto, only sell them to restaurants, to be
consumed by gringos.
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