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Osprey
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Fastest Fish
Yesterday a friend asked me to research "The Fastest Fish" -- he said he thought it was the wahoo, I said I thought it was the tuna. We were wrong.
Now I know why I love to hook up those sailfish on light tackle:
Sailfish 68.18 MPH
Mako 60
Marlin 50
Wahoo 48.5
Bluefin 43.4
Blue shark 43
Bonefish 40
Swordfish 40
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I wonder how they were able to measure the speed?
Ive caught several mako,s off the Cal. coast years ago when shark fishin wasn,t as popular as it is today and thought at the time WOW do they
haul or what ,now I know thanks
Rob
Seems high for a Blue shark
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Don Alley
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| Quote: | Originally posted by baitcast
I wonder how they were able to measure the speed?
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One answer is in this article on fish facts: Fish Facts
[Edited on 3-31-2008 by Don Alley]
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A fish is hooked. It makes a run. You measure how much line the fish took off the spool in a certain number of seconds, and you can calculate the
fish's speed.
Lots of problems with this method IMO. Not all fish react to a hook in the same way.
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Maybe this decidedly unscientific method of measurement explains the dubious results. There is no way anybody who has caught all three will be
convinced that a sailfish swims faster than a wahoo or a greyhounding blue marlin. The frequency of the shriek of the clicker on a wahoo's initial
run or as a marlin peels off the line compared to a relatively anemic sailfish puts the lie to these statistics.
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One more faux scientific method
My ol' man explained to me that first, the boat must be static in the water. Then after the fish makes a run for 1 minute you measure the diameter of
the blister on your thumb. DxT/.275 hmmm, I'll need to check the exact equation?
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My money is on a 5 lb. dorado being chased by a marlin.
I doubt any fish swims its fastest when it's hooked. No imminent, recognizable danger like a being pursued by a predator.
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Bonefish are supposed to be some of the fastest fish you'll ever encounter. When I first started fishing I was amazed, as their runs were so fast that
they would break me off on the strike, even with a light drag.
In time I discovered that if you used a slip strike and gave slack immediately the fish wouldn't run at all. The run is caused by the sweeping strike
of the rod and the resistance of the line. Basically it scares the hell out of it. That's not surprising because the fish feeds in 8 inches of water
and is extremely vulnerable from above. It's a bundle of nerves. A shadow from a cloud passing over can cause it to roar off the flat. Any cough or
sudden movement gets the same reaction.
So is it really fast or just a nervous wreck to begin with?
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Don Alley
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
A fish is hooked. It makes a run. You measure how much line the fish took off the spool in a certain number of seconds, and you can calculate the
fish's speed.
Lots of problems with this method IMO. Not all fish react to a hook in the same way. |
And it's the only method I could find. And seeing as how all the different sources give the same info (Sailfish #1), I wonder if all used this same
data. To many variables to use just this one method, in one location, in one water temp. I don't think there is a reliable, definitive answer to the
question.
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The calc in that article is silly.
Yards of line out and time is only valid if the fish moves directly away from the fisherman in a straight line. If the fish moves away at 90 degrees
and level for instance, the calculation would be off by over 50%.
Lets say the fish strikes at 100 yds out and the fish moves 100 yds at 90 degrees, only 41 yds of line would be used. The result would show the fish
swimming way slower than it actually did.
Ken
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The fastest fish in the world is any fish that sees Whistlers Fly Rod!
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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Whistler, you know how people complain about the wind a Christmas Island? Messes up their casts, they say. Well, I found that wind can be your friend
over there. It agitates the surface so much that those bonefish can't hear the fly drop near them (if you're casting into the wind).
I remember one still evening when bonefish were tailing all around us. You could almost hear them smacking their lips as they worked the bottom. But
drop a fly anywhere near them and it looked like rain out there. One group would spook another all the way down for a hundred yards. What looked like
perfect conditions was actually pretty tough. That was before I learned to tie flies without the eyes.
Yeah, those trevally are always following you looking for an easy meal. Sometimes you release a bonefish and those big brutes just rush in.
They're some big barracuda on that island also (although I've never seen one). One of the guys was telling me of a six foot fish rushing at him while
wading that just stopped inches away before turning. Wet wading took on a different meaning that day (  ). I can't imagine what that fish was thinking as nothing was being released at the time.
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youi talking short burst or sustaind speed?
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Capt. George
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how about the 90 degree turns a bonefish makes at top speed...first time blew my mind..
big bones in the lower keys, had them up to 13 lbs..miss them big time!
gotta go catch some snook (robalo) when ya comin east Whistler?
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Yes, but can you outrun a mako shark ...
From tonight's homework:
The short-finned mako shark is thought to be the fastest fish. The mako's top speed is about 50 feet per second. Write and solve an equation to
find the time it takes a mako to swim 300 feet. Compare your answer with the time it takes the fastest humans to run the same distance (about 10
seconds).
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Yahoo search says Indo-Sailfish is fastest.
The Indo-Pacific Sailfish is an oceanic species that feeds on schooling fishes such as sardines, anchovies and mackerels.
The feeding behaviour has been observed by fishermen as follows: "when one or several sailfish found a school of prey fishes, they began to pursue it
at about half speed with their fins half-folded back into the grooves. They then drove at the prey at full speed with their fins completely folded
back and once they had caught up with it, they suddenly made sharp turns with their fins fully expanded to confront a part of the school and then hit
the prey with the bill.
Subsequently they ate the killed and stunned fish, usually head first."
That's the fastest fish when it is doing it's natural thing....but in the world of angling:
Hook up a sailfish and it loses a lot of speed and power. Hook up a mako and it sustains higher speeds and is infinitely more powerful.
A great race to watch would be this:
a flying fish..being chased by a dorado...being chased by a marlin.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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While in the navy at sea I spent a great deal of time standing in the bow of the ships I was assigned to and on several occasions saw flying fish come
out of the side of a wave with dorado in hot pursuit directly below them and always when the flyer reentered the water the dodo was there waiting,they
can move at a pretty good clip also.
Rob
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| Quote: | Originally posted by whistler
more challenging without a guide and you learn faster |
Absolutely agree with that. In fact, I believe that guides take away some of the pleasure of fishing. I mean spotting bonefish is half the fun. I
don't like them pointing out the fish to me. Oh, it was fun the first trip, I suppose.
I feel that way about all fishing. Solving the riddle (e.g. which bug coming off, approriate fly and presentation, direction of approach) is most of
the sport. Just reeling a fish in is for youngsters, meat fishermen, and people who really aren't serious about the sport.
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flies spooking the fish? maybe they seen you? I made eye contact with bonefish an four occasioons, all of them screamed and swam away..
After the first couple dozen bones I caught, my greatest pleasure was poling, spotting and putting novices onto their first bone..too cool.
Of all the fishing I've done, bluegills to giant bluefin, sight casting to bonefish remains my favorite!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
| Quote: | Originally posted by whistler
more challenging without a guide and you learn faster |
I feel that way about all fishing. Solving the riddle (e.g. which bug coming off, approriate fly and presentation, direction of approach) is most of
the sport. Just reeling a fish in is for youngsters, meat fishermen, and people who really aren't serious about the sport. |
Skip, lucky you, you don't have to worry about us cavemen, children, primatives who never learned the real Sport, the artistic arrangement of flow and
function. Some of us might be offended by your arrogance if we had larger brains, knew how to be real Sportsmen like you. You stepped over a very deep
line in the sand my friend.
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