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PJC
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Overcast Alert! Mega Scammer!
Mike Overcast finds another tool. Jeeze, what a fat SOB.
The Link: http://video.nbcsandiego.com/player/#videoid=241547
Consider emailing this to the station:
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You may wish to reconsider your choice of Baja "experts". He's an entry-level National Inquirer of Baja. He is known among Baja Enthusiasts as a
litigious, slanderous and self promoting alarmist.
Aliases include: Gary Newsome", "Cabo 500", "Speed Mex", "Janice Gilmore", "Hollister", "andymeyer", "Garner racing", "aj racing", "Baja Brad" etc.
Google him up....get the facts.
A few links:
http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/sho...light=Overcast
http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/sho...light=Overcast
http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/sho...light=Overcast
http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/sho...hlight=newsome
http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33524
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthre...=2467#pid99733
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthre...6695#pid143114
http://www.aeabcs.com/index.php?opti...=154&Itemid=27
http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34463
http://www.dezertrangers.com/vb/show...light=overcast
http://www.dezertrangers.com/vb/show...098#post760098
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=14292
http://www.baja.net/forums/showthread.php?t=23807
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The station email page is at:
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/contactus/index.html
[Edited on 4-18-2008 by PJC]
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MexicoTed
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In case you can't get to the video, here's the story in text:
Baja's Governor Addresses Border Violence
SAN DIEGO -- The governor of Baja spoke out in San Diego, one day after the U.S. State Department issued a travel alert in Northern Mexico.
During a visit to UCSD's Institute of the Americas, Jose Guadalupe Osuna Millan, focused on several projects the state has lined up. But the
underlying theme was the travel alert.
There he spoke about business opportunities in the state, trade and also education -- but more noteworthy, he talked for the first time about the
rising violence along the border.
Speaking in Spanish, Millan said, "I'm sure that many Baja residents who now live in San Diego, will come back to live in their native cities in
Mexico once the violence is under control."
Although the violent attacks are aimed primarily at drug traffickers, the recent alert states that tourists are also at risk. The percentage of
tourists that visit Baja has dropped significantly in the last few years.
Travel agent Mike Overcast has been working in the field for 25 years. He said the violence has never been as prevalent as it is now and it's lead to
a 90 percent drop in tourism south of the border.
"We want to make sure that everybody that is considering going to Mexico knows about the alert and then acts accordingly," he said. " Unfortunately
the crime situation, especially in Tijuana, from Tecate to Ensenada is actually getting worse as time goes by. It's not getting any better."
Baja's governor tried to focus on other aspects of his trip but he couldn't escape the underlying issue of violence and crime. He said part of his
agenda is meeting with Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to increase communication between both states. More than 200 homicides in Ciudad Juarez have been
documented this year and even neighboring El Paso, Texas, north of the border has reported a spike in shootouts, kidnappings and car thefts. U.S.
officials said there has been also reports an increase in drug-related violence in the Mexican border cities of Tijuana and Chihuahua, as well.
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/15916655/detail.html
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flyfishinPam
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I don't understand this at all!
Over the years I have seen and read posts regarding this Mike Overcast and just don't understand their intent. Usually these posts are something
connected to something of personal dealings by the poster and do not concern us general readers to this board.
What is wrong or slanderous about this guy stating there has been a travel warning issued by the us state department? It is truth is it not? Also
what is incorrect about his statement that the baja california tourism industry and related businesses have seen a 90% decline due to this bad prress
that just so happens to be the truth.
Its time for some truth for a change. It would be nice to see accurate news so that we may make intelligent decisions as to our travel and state of
security instead of having to read them from off an informal message board.
I for one would like to see those who have the power remove their heads from their posteriors and actually DO somehting about it instead of make
incessant promises that something will ge done.
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lizard lips
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Overcast a travel agent? That's a new one.
I've lived here 22 years and never had any problems. Why did they pick this guy to speak out?
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flyfishinPam
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Well I don't know this guy from Adam but after watching the video I really cannot find anything he said to be untruthful. As someone in tourism I
believe it is best to inform ones clients with the truth then allow them to make the decision thats right for them (of course my personal ethic won't
ever make me rich but I don't care). I am sorry this is happening but putting this guy over the coals for making his statements won't do anything to
alleviate this bad situation. Look, it took a travel warning, a truthful one, by the state department to get the governor of BC up to san diego to
even address the situation to the very tourists they count on.... then he tries to convince them to invest in the business community 
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If this article had been issued four months ago, I would have called it accurate.
But now, four months later, it sure seems like improvements have been made, at least in The Gauntlet.
Either that, or there is a real good job of covering up incidents involving tourists.
I choose to believe the former.
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bajamigo
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If this guy is a legitimate travel agent, why is he trashing a traditional vacation destination? Sure, what he said is or may have at one point in
time been true. but that is not the issue. His responses simply had no balance. If he's pretending to wear the trappings of authority, his comments
should not have been so unjustifiably negative. If "overcast" is his real name, it's entirely fitting.
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Gadget
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Mike Overcast, not the big bad hombre I had him pictured as.
I take what he said with a grain of salt.
I've made my adjustments to traveling south and feel fine about further trips to Mex.
I rode with Curtis Guise to San Felipe for the 250. Overcast came up in our conversations. Curtis being the consumate diplomat that he is, simply
commented that he was glad they were hopefully rid of him for good on Racedezert.
[Edited on 6-18-2008 by Gadget]
"Mankind will not be judged by their faults, but by the direction of their lives." Leo Giovinetti
See you in Baja
http://www.LocosMocos.com
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gadget
I road with Curtis Guise to San Felipe for the 250. Overcast came up in our conversations. Curtis being the consumate diplomat that he is, simply
commented that he was glad they were hopefully rid of him for good on Racedezert. |
Hopefully SCORE'S Sal
Fish will be close behind
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Ken Bondy
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Overcast is often portrayed in this forum as self-serving. But I don't see how anything he said in this clip could benefit him as a "travel agent
specializing in Baja". Can someone explain this to me?
++Ken++
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PJC
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By pattern Overcast trumps up fear about Baja California (north) while peddling his supposed travel services and throughly bogus race promotions in
Baja California Sur.
The guy is far from bright, as dishonest as they come and likely mentally deranged.
He has made a laughing stock of himself in the off-road community by being a fraudulent promoter of the "Cabo 500" race on the backs of BCS business
people and prompters of a legitimate race without their permission.
Whenever his fraudulent antics are challenged he starts with bogus letters from fictional legal counsel and then progresses to telephone calling and
harassing whatever public associates of the challenger he can find. His phone calls are laced with profanity, tyrannical threats and almost always
behind fictitious names all while the called individuals phone shows "Mike Overcast" on the caller ID.
He does not stop there but, operates under numerous aliases to further his penchant for negative attention. His websites and BLOGS attempt to slander
and defame numerous leaders in the Baja on-line and Off-road Motorsports community. Fortunately, to be on his "bad list" one will find themselves
accompanied by truly good and stellar people in Baja and the off-road community.
His only saving grace is that he has not offended someone as mentally unstable as himself and that the sane realize that legal proceedings against him
would likely yield only the persuable financial resources of a complete loser, i.e. "not much".
[Edited on 4-18-2008 by PJC]
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Ken Bondy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by PJC
By pattern Overcast trumps up fear about Baja California (north) while peddling his supposed travel services and throughly bogus race promotions in
Baja California Sur.
The guy is far from bright, as dishonest as they come and likely mentally deranged.
He has made a laughing stock of himself in the off-road community by being a fraudulent promoter of the "Cabo 500" race on the backs of BCS business
people and prompters of a legitimate race without their permission.
Whenever his fraudulent antics are challenged he starts with bogus letters from fictional legal counsel and then progresses to telephone calling and
harassing whatever public associates of the challenger he can find. His phone calls are laced with profanity, tyrannical threats and almost always
behind fictitious names all while the called individuals phone shows "Mike Overcast" on the caller ID.
He does not stop there but, operates under numerous aliases to further his penchant for negative attention. His websites and BLOGS attempt to slander
and defame numerous leaders in the Baja on-line and Off-road Motorsports community.
His only saving grace is that he has not offended someone as deranged as himself and that the sane realize that legal proceedings against him would
likely yield only the persuable financial resources of a complete loser. |
That's all interesting, but it really doesn't address my question. How did what he say in that clip benefit him in any way?
++Ken++
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Flyfishing Pam,
Thanks for standing up here. I like Ken don't see anything in the post that does not fit with what I have been reading and seeing. I of course will
defer on this judgement as I do not live full time in the Baja as some of the posters here do. Getting a feel and keeping updated with accurate
INFORMATION is what I need also in order to make informed decisions.
I appreciate your openness and candor. I hope one day to fish with you, I was too ill on my last trip to connect. I am on the mend as we speak.
I have read posts about this guy in the past and if he is the scam artist that one reads, then I also appreciate the heads up. To his credit BJC does
list refferences. I don't have an interest at this time in pursuing the links, though I am appreciating at least some attempt to document his/her
concern. Flaming someone is not ok with me, providing info on a scam artist is a public service. It is up to us in some ways to sort out the reality
of things like this.
Iflyfish
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Roberto
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I haven't followed the link. But I can tell you that over the years, Overcast has organized several scams, including a Baja Travel Club where folks
would pay for services that were never rendered and could get no satisfaction because the principals were not available, behind several screens, etc.
He has done other things, like promoting (and taking credit for organizing) races that were actually organized by other entities and gotten
sponsorships and otherwise detracted from activities and revenue, potential or otherwise, of the legitimate organizers.
And, finally, ANYONE who has ever even vaguely questioned his activities has been threatened with lawsuits, smeared on public websites and worse. I
fully expect this thread to appear on one of his sewer holes. You might want to peruse this thread for an example that concerns this website.
[Edited on 4-19-2008 by Roberto]
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PJC
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See " By pattern Overcast trumps up fear about Baja California (north) while peddling his supposed travel services and throughly bogus race promotions
in Baja California Sur.".
Key on "pattern".
[Edited on 4-19-2008 by PJC]
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Ken Bondy
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I am obviously not making myself clear. Many on this board think that this Overcast person is a bad guy. That may or may not be true, but it is not
my issue nor my question. My question was, for the third time, what did he say in that video clip that was of benefit to him?
Interestingly, immediately after I made my first post in this thread, I got an email (not a U2U) from something called "baja ****** Mexico Club" with
the subject "SENSITIVE-DISTURBING-MEXICO VIOLENCE REPORT". In the body of the message it said:
<<SENSITIVE INTERNAL LAW ENFORCEMENT DOCUMENT
>> O NOT OPEN WITHOUT KNOWING THIS IS DISTURBING
The email had an attachment titled "para bsmc 2.pdf" which I of course have not and will not open.
I am not aware of the "baja ****** Mexico Club". Does anyone on board know what this is? The timing was extremely curious.
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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Bondy
Interestingly, immediately after I made my first post in this thread, I got an email (not a U2U) from something called "baja ****** Mexico Club" with
the subject "SENSITIVE-DISTURBING-MEXICO VIOLENCE REPORT". In the body of the message it said:
<<SENSITIVE INTERNAL LAW ENFORCEMENT DOCUMENT
>>O NOT OPEN WITHOUT KNOWING THIS IS DISTURBING
The email had an attachment titled "para bsmc 2.pdf" which I of course have not and will not open.
I am not aware of the "baja ****** Mexico Club". Does anyone on board know what this is? The timing was extremely curious.
++Ken++ |
Like I said, I haven't followed the link, nor do I intend to. I know all about Overcast that I care to know. While that particular link may not reveal
anything on it's own, the story is long, and the con "long".
"baja ****** Mexico Club" is Overcast's fraudulent travel club.
Edit: I am waiting for an email or a sliming post regarding me any time now. Some on this board know about the posts regarding members of this board
calling some of us pedophiles and worse - you cannot post about Overcast without getting this kind of treatment.
[Edited on 4-19-2008 by Roberto]
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Amazing...Absolutly Amazing..........
Overcast hasn't even been here and everybody is running to hide.
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PJC
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Dennis, who's hiding?
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The link opens to a gas station robbery in San Diego.
What does that have to do with Baja California?
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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