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bajaretreat
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Armed Robbery in La Paz
This came from the La Paz Gringos yahoo discussion group -
It was reported that two women in Comitan were held at gunpoint, tied up and the robbed of jewelery. This was in one of the womens homes.......
Then a post in response to the above report -
These two young (20's) Mexican men drove onto Shirley's property through open gates and asked for water for their car. Judy took a picture of them and
the car. They left and returned about 10 minutes later with a gun and forced Shirley and Judy onto the floor. They wanted the camera with the picture.
They tied up the women and made them lie on the bed...They took all the jewelry that they were wearing at gunpoint. Threatened rape and ransacked
Shirley's house, taking money, jewelry, purses, suitcases, perfume, makeup bags. They asked if she had a laptop and when her husband would be home..
They also threatened to kill them if they called the police.. I suggest that everyone keep their gates closed and locked as these men have not
yet been caught... Similar robberies have been happening in Todo Santos and Cabo. Please be vigilant.. The police seem to think the car was from
LaPaz.. The car was a white hatchback either 70s or 80s with a broken headlamp and a crack in the driver side window license #284 PMJ 5. Keep an eye
out for this car.. One of the men was heavyset and wore sun glassed and baseball hat..the other one was slim ..The
police said that they would patrol our area more...
Never be afraid to do what\'s right especially if the well being of a person or animal is at stake. Society\'s punishments are small
compared to the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way.
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Lauriboats
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Very scary indeed.
What we see depends mainly on what we look for.
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bajaretreat
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A good dog or two will take care of the problem - guaranteed. With all the dogs needing homes, it seems to be the easiest and least expensive way to
be safe....not to mention helping out the animal overpopulation problem.
Never be afraid to do what\'s right especially if the well being of a person or animal is at stake. Society\'s punishments are small
compared to the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way.
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comitan
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bajaretreat
Thats a good idea if you can teach the dog not to eat poisoned food.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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bajajudy
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I have to ask why they took a picture of them....especially allowing the guys to see them doing it?
I am not making light of this in the least...just curious as to their idea of what good this would do. Did they think that would scare them
off...better to point a loaded anything but a camera at them.
Sorry to hear of my tocaya's misfortune.
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danaeb
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Not only the camera thing, but stealing perfume and make-up bags at gunpoint??? Sumpthin' not right with these banditos.
Experience enables you to recognize a mistake every time you repeat it.
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TonyC
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| Quote: | Originally posted by comitan
bajaretreat
Thats a good idea if you can teach the dog not to eat poisoned food. |
If you want a dog to protect your property, part of the training is to not take any food without a command word. After that you need to decide if you
want the dog trained to bite, or just make noise. Training can make your your dog earn his keep. Otherwise, it's nothing more than a false sense of
security....very easy to bluff a dog, or challenge a dog with no training.
Mexico... no guns, stateside good for early warning. Are there laws against having a protection trained dog in Mexico? I don't mean a junk yard type
dog that hate all, and everything that moves.
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TonyC
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My boy Lotar, gentle, loving, good obedience, and will go through fire to protect my family. I love this dog.
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vandenberg
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Watch out for killer.
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Gadget
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Any dog can sence the pheramones (sp) that a human gives off when they get adrenaline at the out set of a violent act or are affraid. The dog will
act aggresively to those types of scent.
I have never trained either of our Labs to be aggressive towards anyone, but have seen great guard intentions while in Mexico camping. A local comes
into camp and sees the dog, get a little uncertain and the dog gets aggressive.
Our last Lab came with me almost daily to the jobsite. He was asleep on the garage floor at a clients place and 2 ladies showed up in a minivan
delivering patio furniture. The one lady walked right past Otis and he didn't wake up. The other lady at the top of the drive finished unloading,
turned and saw the dog. She had a fear of dogs and stopped in her tracks. I swear if I hadn't gotten to Otis before he got to her he was going to
bite her and she hadn't done a thing.
I think they are invaluable to anyone living in any kind of a rural or remote setting. If I had a place in Baja the first thing I'd do is start "the
pack". A bad guy may get past one or even two, but not "the pack".
Great Rot photo, what a stud!!!
So sorry to hear this story. Our thoughts are with the 2 gals for sure.
[Edited on 4-25-2008 by Gadget]
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rob
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TonyC,
Now THAT is a Rotty! We have 2 at the ranch and they sure put on a good show if strangers arrive at this remote and isolated area.
They ARE gentle and sort of obedient, but they also have strong personalities.
rob
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fishbuck
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My dog has a secret weapon. He gets really scared at strangers and pees a puddle so big and slippery the the bad guys fall in it and drop their guns.
Then we both run like hell sceaming like scared little girls.
Ok, I don't really have a dog.
Sorry to hear about the ladies.
[Edited on 4-25-2008 by fishbuck]
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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TonyC
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rob
They ARE gentle and sort of obedient, but they also have strong personalities.
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You know their personalities well. That why most competition schutzhund dogs are mals., or german shepherds. The obedience training in rotties takes
lots of patiences on the humans part. Even then their obedience is not as clean as mals, and German shepherds, but their personality is why I love
this breed. Because of their personalities....kinda of like cats, you won't get to far with their training if you go heavy on force. If you do use to
much force they will take a long time to forget what you did, and you end up setting your training back weeks. Done correctly the rewards are
unbelieveable, free thinking, gentle, knows when it's time to be a man stopper...stick, gun, or knife. Believe me you get a trained big dog coming
full speed at you swinging a stick, aiming a gun, or standing your ground with a knife becomes very hard to do. Turn your back and run....your done,
better hope I'm home.
But don't get me wrong...peeing a big puddle as a trap will also get the job done too.
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Capt. George
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The scumbags should be caught and beaten to death in public...the money brought into Baja by us keeps them alive...
what a bunch of bullchit. Lost money in Comitan because of the crime I heard of going on there..."Oh but they're poor, oh but they have no education."
bullchit..They're scumbags, catch em and beat them to death.
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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Capt. George
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respones, nada, por que????????????
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Capt. George
respones, nada, por que???????????? |
Looking for my " beat'em to death " sticks.
Wife makes such a mess in the garage,that I can't find anything.
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Osprey
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Tony, my dog Storm is hip to all that pheramone stuff. I can't bluff him. Sometimes I catch him wearing my underwear --- he doesn't seem to be
intimidated by my screaming and flailing about. That's just the jockeys though, he wouldn't dare try to wear my boxers.
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TonyC
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
Tony, my dog Storm is hip to all that pheramone stuff. I can't bluff him. Sometimes I catch him wearing my underwear --- he doesn't seem to be
intimidated by my screaming and flailing about. That's just the jockeys though, he wouldn't dare try to wear my boxers. |
thanks I
needed that.
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TonyC
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Capt. George
The scumbags should be caught and beaten to death in public...the money brought into Baja by us keeps them alive...
what a bunch of bullsh-t. Lost money in Comitan because of the crime I heard of going on there..."Oh but they're poor, oh but they have no education."
bullsh-t..They're scumbags, catch em and beat them to death. |
That's how I see it. If it walks like duck, and quacks like duck. No excuses, #4 steel shot should work real good.
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bajaretreat
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They caught 'em!!
The scumbags were caught and are now in custody...yeah!
(Fresh off the press from La Paz Gringos yahoo discussion group)
Never be afraid to do what\'s right especially if the well being of a person or animal is at stake. Society\'s punishments are small
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