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US Consulate in TJ stopping immigration services
Couldn't find an article in English, but this says the US Consulate in TJ will not longer offer U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services-USCIS after
June 19, 2008. It says after that date those services will be handled out of Mexico City.
http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/17062...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fulano
Couldn't find an article in English, but this says the US Consulate in TJ will not longer offer U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services-USCIS after
June 19, 2008. It says after that date those services will be handled out of Mexico City.
http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/17062... |
It really is like the wild west.... I presume the government officials refuse assignment to this outlaw territory.
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Do you think it is an economic downsizing or do you think it is due to the violence?
Or..a third possibility.....a political move to make immigration more difficult for Mexicans?
[Edited on 6-18-2008 by toneart]
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I think they are bailing !!!!
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fulano
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I don't know what the issue is with the consulate closing down some services, I'll look around some more. In the meantime, here is a surprisingly
well-balanced article on TJ with some insights into what is happening to the Mexicans -- and Americans -- who depend on the tourism.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06...
There's and old saying: "If you keep throwing turds into the punchbowl, after awhile nobody comes to your party."
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Whoa, this is very bad news for mexicans here who need to get visas to go to the states, or through the states to Canada. It was nearly impossible to
even GET a visa and prohibitively expensive as well but very few people will be able to go to Mexico City just to apply for a tourist visa...this is
very very bad.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fulano
There's and old saying: "If you keep throwing turds into the punchbowl, after awhile nobody comes to your party." |
You made that up, huh. It's pretty good though.
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It doesn't seem that it will affect Mexican citizens, just you guys who live in Mexico. After all, visas are given in several cities, including
Tijuana, Ciudad Juarez and el DF among others.
Here's a quick translation of the article:
"The General Consulate of the United States reports that the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), situated within this consulate, will
stop offering its services for an indefinite period of time starting June 19th of this year.
The USCIS office, which is part of the Department of Homeland Security, had under its responsibility all of the Immigration Benefits Applications
submitted by American citizens living legally in the following states: Baja California, Baja California Sur, Sonora and Sinaloa.
Starting June 19, 2008, the jurisdiction previously in charge of the USCIS office in Tijuana will become part of the jurisdiction of Mexico City.
American citizens who live in Baja California, Baja California Sur, Sonora or Sinaloa can consult the following site (www.USCIS.gov) for more information on how to submit a petition."
[Edited on 6-18-2008 by Aventurera]
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Aventurera
It doesn't seem that it will affect Mexican citizens, just you guys who live in Mexico. After all, visas are given in several cities, including
Tijuana, Ciudad Juarez and el DF among others.
Here's a quick translation of the article:
"The General Consulate of the United States reports that the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), situated within this consulate, will
stop offering its services for an indefinite period of time starting June 19th of this year.
The USCIS office, which is part of the Department of Homeland Security, had under its responsibility all of the Immigration Benefits Applications
submitted by American citizens living legally in the following states: Baja California, Baja California Sur, Sonora and Sinaloa.
Starting June 19, 2008, the jurisdiction previously in charge of the USCIS office in Tijuana will become part of the jurisdiction of Mexico City.
American citizens who live in Baja California, Baja California Sur, Sonora or Sinaloa can consult the following site (www.USCIS.gov) for more information on how to submit a petition."
[Edited on 6-18-2008 by Aventurera] |
I don't get it. How does Homeland Security affect Americans living in Baja? They don't issue visas to us.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
I don't get it. How does Homeland Security affect Americans living in Baja? They don't issue visas to us. |
I have no idea, but that's what it says.
I'll go look at the website they listed and report back if I discover anything more.
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Voila...I guess it has more to do with Mexicans who have gained U.S. citizenship. This is from the website:
"Overseas Offices provide limited services to U.S. Citizens, permanent residents of the U.S. and certain other persons who are visiting or residing
outside the United States who need assistance in immigration matters. These services include:
Abandonment of Alien Status as a Lawful Permanent Resident (Form I-407): The abandonment of lawful permanent resident status is irrevocable. An
individual who relinquishes lawful permanent resident status must qualify again for such status. Therefore, one should give careful thought to
abandoning lawful permanent resident status.
Adoptions (Forms I-600 and I-600A): For U.S. citizens residing outside the United States who wish to adopt an orphan and file a Petition to Classify
Orphan as an Immediate Relative (Form I-600) and Application for Advance Processing of Orphan Petition (Form I-600A) at the Overseas Office.
For specific information on international adoptions and procedures please see the State Department website and our Fact Sheet How Do I Bring a
Foreign-Born Orphan to the United States?
Immediate Relative Immigrant Petitions (Form I-130): For U.S. citizens residing outside the United States who wish to file a Petition for Alien
Relative (Form I-130) for certain immediate relatives."
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Tone, as to your first post, door number three. Keep 'em out! They are taking our jobs, social services, beautiful woman, all the good tacos, all the
luxery condos, yadada yadada yadada. They are removing those offensive statements from the Statue of Liberty...a Frenchie gift to us anyway.
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Any news about the US Consular Services in Cabo San Lucas?
If they closed that office then it would really be a drag.
CaboRon
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the American Consul Service provided services to Americans living in Baja CA. (I have no idea what, if anything, they do for Mexicans). one major
service is/was the issuance and renewal of US passports, which is now not going to be available, except, I suppose, through Mexico City. they also
had an American notary in the Cabo branch, who, for a sizeable fee, would notarize documents.
many of us in the cruising community used their services, out of a satellite office in Cabo, which also provided monthly visits to La Paz. (these are
no more) I renewed my passport there (La Paz) last July, picking up the completed document there in August. I was told it was processed in Tijuana.
as I commented to my friends at the time, Homeland Security would have been VERY concerned at the casual proceedings! a consular agent would show up
with a briefcase at The Dock restaurant in Marina de La Paz and conduct business surrounded by Americans who had heard he was coming but knew not what
to expect in the semi dark with a musical group performing loudly a table or two away. the security was non existant and the confusion great but I
was glad to get my passport without a trip to the states during the time that processing time was 8-12 weeks.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
I don't get it. How does Homeland Security affect Americans living in Baja? They don't issue visas to us. |
I have no idea, but that's what it says.
I'll go look at the website they listed and report back if I discover anything more. |
reality\'s never been of much use out here...
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Rhintransit,
Could you clarify ??? You seem to have implied that the CSL office would be closed. Did I read you right. I did gleen that the monthly trips
to The Dock in La Paz were done.
My question is about the CSL office.
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CaboRon
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I can't speak personally to the situation in Cabo. I do know the La Paz 'branch' is closed indefinitely. it was my understanding, which could be
wrong, that the Cabo branch was a service from the Tijuana office. anyone from Cabo with personal knowledge?
| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
Rhintransit,
Could you clarify ??? You seem to have implied that the CSL office would be closed. Did I read you right. I did gleen that the monthly trips
to The Dock in La Paz were done.
My question is about the CSL office.
Thanks,
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reality\'s never been of much use out here...
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This WILL affect thousands of mexicanos in 4 large states because to get a tourist visa, even if you just want to go shopping for a day or visit a
relative or go to a relatives funeral, visit your brother in a hospital etc.etc....you have to make an appointment a month in advance...pay a hundred
US dollars (just tomake the appointment) go to the US consulate office in TJ, stand in line, spend the whole day there waiting to MAYBE get a visa (a
huge majority DONT get them). So picture this...your father livining in san diego is dying...you are a good hardworking mexican...but still pretty
poor...now how are you gonna afford to go to Mexico City just to get a visa to visit your poor papa in hospital. This hugely affects mexicans who
want/need to get to the states or through it....thousands of mexicans every week go to the US consulate to beg for a visa...many of them are legit
people just wanting to either visit a friend or relative or see the great U S of A....all you have to do to go fill up your tank with deisel is drive
across the border...how fair is THAT???
I don't think most people have any idea how nearly impossible it is to get a tourist visa...it sucks...I know because my husband and daughter had to
go through it...the only reason they got it was because we went as a family and the agent talked only to me...and we were only passing through the
states to get on a plane to canada...but imagine if Sirenitas grandpa died and we had to get to the funeral...we'd have to go to Mexico City
first....geeeeez Louiiiiiiise
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rhintransit
I can't speak personally to the situation in Cabo. I do know the La Paz 'branch' is closed indefinitely. it was my understanding, which could be
wrong, that the Cabo branch was a service from the Tijuana office. anyone from Cabo with personal knowledge?
| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
Rhintransit,
Could you clarify ??? You seem to have implied that the CSL office would be closed. Did I read you right. I did gleen that the monthly trips
to The Dock in La Paz were done.
My question is about the CSL office.
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What I do know is that the guy at The Dock came from the CSL office.
CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
This WILL affect thousands of mexicanos in 4 large states because to get a tourist visa, even if you just want to go shopping for a day
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Since the article mentions US citizen services, are you sure they will quit issuing the visas for Mexicans?
There are a lot of businesses on the US side that depend on Mexican shoppers, a lot of children from Mexico attending school in the US---legally, and
illegally, etc.
Just can't imagine they would suddenly require a trip to Mexico City to get a visa or a renewal of a visa-----but then again, can't believe a lot of
things that happen.
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The Union Tribune article said he office was only open a few days a month and referred most people that showed up to the US Governments website. No
loss.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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