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estero beach fishing
This morning two friends of mine went down to the Estero Beach launch ramp to fish from the beach. They have both been fishing here for a decade or
more. Two gill netters were stretching their net across the beach and launch ramp to snag fish on the incoming tide. My friends attempted to wave
them off when the Mexicans yelled and gestured and told the Gringos to go home. Now, it is my understanding that gill netting in the Estero bay is
illegal but the law is never enforced. This aggression and hostility I hope does not represent a new trend in Baja. The bad publicity has already
taken a toll on tourism. Hopefully Estero Beach will act to preserve the good vibes we all love in this area.
[Edited on 6-28-2008 by memo]
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Gill nets have a priority in the waters of Baja. It's one of those "feed the
family" things.
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memo
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Yeah, Cypress, but I guess it depends on whose family you are trying to feed.....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by memo
Yeah, Cypress, but I guess it depends on whose family you are trying to feed..... |
....They simply are not thinking of their grandchildren....
Sad isn't it.
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ELINVESTIG8R
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Estero Beach owners must have given them permission to do so if the gill netters were on their property. I used to use a Fanta soda bottle wrapped
with fishing line; two hooks and a spark plug to fish off the rock wall on the south west corner of the Estero Beach Hotel. We used to pull out some
good sized halibut from there. Of course that was 40 years ago.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by memo
My friends attempted to wave them off when the Mexicans yelled and gestured and told the Gringos to go home. |
If it's a matter of "it's our country, not yours" lets bring that attitude to the world. The world needs to know how Mexicans are thinking these
days.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
Estero Beach owners must have given them permission to do so if the gill netters were on their property.
They don't need the permission from the owners (Novelo family) to do that. Anyone can go on the federal zone and they can not stop them.
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No way I'm down with gillnetting, or with the gingo go home remark. However, maybe they were responding to what they interpreted as an aggressive
gesture on your friends part when they confronted them to leave. Two parts to a story, theirs (Mexicans) and yours. Did your friends report them to
the federales, or police? Should have let them (Police) deal with the gillnetters, if they do nothing....there you have it.
Like Cypress, and CaboRon said, they'er thinking short term, and the goverment needs to lead the way. That confrontation could have escalated.
[Edited on 6-24-2008 by TonyC]
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ELINVESTIG8R
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All I can say is Viva La Baja...I wonder if I can still catch the same sized halibut I used to from the rock wall at Estero Beach some 40 years ago?
[Edited on 6-24-2008 by ELINVESTI8]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TonyC
No way I'm down with gillnetting, or with the gingo go home remark. However, maybe they were responding to what they interpreted as an aggressive
gesture on your friends part when they confronted them to leave. ]
I probably should have mentioned my friends had been fishing at the beach for a while before the gill netters saw them and intentionally dragged the
net across the beach and launch ramp directly in front of them. These gill netters have been working the bay for weeks, dragging out huge netfuls of
big croakers, halibut and anything else caught in their net. But we hadn't seen them this close to Estero Beach until yesterday. They were spoiling
for a fight, but my friends, wisely, did not oblige. But things could get ugly if it keeps up. |
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memo
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TonyC, I didn't mean to attribute my reply to you but I haven't quite figured out how to use this forum yet. Sorry.
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I agree the situation could have escalated, but titleing the post "fishing nightmare" seems a little milodramatic IMO.
"Mankind will not be judged by their faults, but by the direction of their lives." Leo Giovinetti
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Gill nets have a priority in the waters of Baja.It's one of those "feed the
family" things. |
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NEWS FLASH: Today I spoke with a team from CICESE coming off the bay after conducting one of their periodic scientific tests. The Bahia Estero is in
fact a protected bay and gill netting is strictly prohibited. No exceptions. It's one of those "save the species" thangs.
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memo, Gill nets! They beat the heck out of hand lines. Less work, don't need
bait and you're back to the dock before the beer runs out!
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I have to give proper recognition to the gill netters in Estero Bay. At least they are still using gill nets and have not graduated to using high
explosives to fish the area.
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memo,Good work following up with the CICESE.They do a lot of work in that beautiful bay.So now what?The police won't do anything about it, I bet.Last
summer my daughter and I went fishing(at Estero) with my Brother in his Klamath, motoring west until we almost hit the waves and drifted back with the
current.What a blast!Mija and I caught lots of fish, many each pass, on ghost shrimp,and I hook into something pretty dang big, when bro decided he
was going to grab the pole out of my hands and "pull it in"!! Guess who farmed my
biggie?That bay is full of fish and I have seen some nice Halibut come out of there too, right off the beach or rocks.
Happiness is just a Baja memory away...
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Cypress
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Sally "that bay is full of fish" south.
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What what??Did I miss something?Or do I need to change my username??It IS full of fish !I was fed many meals out of that bay since my Grandpa first
put down roots there, back in the 50's,and three generations to follow.Ok, so whats so funny?I can use a good chuckle...
Happiness is just a Baja memory away...
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Hi Sally, Don't worry, Cypress is just gettin a little dry. I grew a big old row of Cypress trees and I know they need a lot to drink, take a very
long time to grow up, and are never really as good looking as you hoped they'd be. They don't do well in Baja unless planted near a busy septic tank.
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