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Bob and Susan
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should i buy this boat???
thinking about this guy...
15 foot
40 hp 2 stroke
9.9 hp kicker
comerical engine...no electric starter
big stick to steer and gas...no steering wheel
what do you think???
value???
we haven't set the price yet
simular to the picture
[Edited on 6-26-2008 by Bob and Susan]
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Skeet/Loreto
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Bob and Susan:
The Sea of Cortez is a 22 Foot Sea.
Why do you think there are so many Pangas?
The Mexican ovt. commmisioned Mac Schoyer of La Paz to build Pangas for the Fisherman of Baja and the Pacific to carry 2,000 Lbs of Fish through the
Surf.
I owned and Operated a 22 Ft. Panga purchased from Mac in 1976 for 27 years.
It is by far the best Boat for the Cortez, for fishing!!
I decided to go to a larger more comfortable Boat so ended up with a 217 Wellcraft Diesel, It was a good combination Cruiser/Fisher.
Make your decesion and good Luck.
Skeet/Loreto
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Gadget
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Our folks have run around at BoLA for years in a 15ft Gregor. The instant they see white caps on the horizon they gotta run for the beach.
He finally, after all those years bought a 21 ft Wellcraft hull from a neighbor, repowered it with a 90hs Honda, fitted it all out with new
electronics, dropped a mooring in front of the house and it flipped on the mooring on the 4th day he launched it in a freek overnight wind.
Boat = hole in water to throw $ in
I'd have to sell the pre-runner if I want to buy one.
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beachbum1A
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Definately not.
Just do it!
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Diver
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The 15 footer would be great for many flat days or for boating within the Bahia de Concepcion. It would be "iffy" for fishing farther out unless it is
a flat day or you (and your passengers) are hearty souls.
I run a 14' similar to yours with a 15hp Merc for the same purpose; your boat looks a bit more seaworthy. What make is it ??
I got mine with trailer for $2,200.
Yours looks to be more like a $3,500-$4,000 boat if it's in decent shape.
It's not the best boat for fishing all over the area but it will be easy to launch and make for some fun in the water. Also a good rescue boat for the
Hobie or Kayaks.
[Edited on 6-25-2008 by Diver]
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Sharksbaja
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DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
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Pescador
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A two stroke 40 will burn more gas than a 90 hp four stroke. Tiller steer is ok if you do not mind doing things that way. I do not know why it has a
40 on it, at San Lucas Cove there is a large number of people who fish yellowtail all the time and they use 14 or 15 ft. Gregors with 25 maximum
horsepower. Everyone assumes the larger boats handle the water better, but that is not always the case. We had an old Alaskan guide who used to go
out every day in a 14 ft with a 15 hp honda and he would go out on days when the bigger boats stayed home. He knew the water and he knew how to
handle the boat.
The biggest challenge you would have is that there is no electric generation with this motor so you will have a challenge running depth finder, GPS,
Marine radio, and live bait tank pump. The second challenge is that most of these boats hairline crack over time and need welding to repair which is
difficult if not impossible to get done in your area.
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Bob H
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Bob... you are a smart man... go with what you think you want it for and if it fits... and the price is right... get it.
Bob H
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Bob and Susan
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well...the seller changed his mind...no sale
maybe next year
maybe for the best
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Bob and Susan
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and we still have the 23 ft wellcraft
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
well...the seller changed his mind...no sale
maybe next year
maybe for the best |
Lucky you.
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rpleger
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Bob...
I've got a 15 ft Gregor, with a 25 Johnson, electric start, no top... paid $2000 dollars...
Great for over the beach launchings...I go out to the mine and on a calm day, out about 4 miles pass the point for dorado.
Great for the Mulegé area.
I love it
Richard on the Hill
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be miserable; to be an American abroad is to make others miserable.
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howat
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About 25 years ago i owned a 14' Westcoaster aluminum boat similar to the one shown. I cartopped and beach launched it. One time while fishing in
BOLA about 5 miles east of town the winds at 11am went from 0 to 50 mph in a matter of minutes. The 3 of us tucked into a sheltered cove to wait the
winds out. As it was getting dark the winds and steep whitecaps had not subsided. My brother, my son and i took a vote, spend the nite here or try
to make it ashore. We all decided to give it a try. We put on the life preservers, made a few plans if we capsized and were seperated, said a prayer
and headed for the city lights of BOLA. My son was in the bow for balast, my brother bailed the boat by hand and I ran the tiller on the 25hp motor.
We were terrified but we made it. We pulled into town haggared, wet, cold (december) but alive.
Not a good sized boat to be caught in the unexpected winds of the Sea of Cortez. I now own a 22' boat designed for the seas there, a Cabo 216.
HH
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fishbuck
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| Quote: | Originally posted by howat
About 25 years ago i owned a 14' Westcoaster aluminum boat similar to the one shown. I cartopped and beach launched it. One time while fishing in
BOLA about 5 miles east of town the winds at 11am went from 0 to 50 mph in a matter of minutes. The 3 of us tucked into a sheltered cove to wait the
winds out. As it was getting dark the winds and steep whitecaps had not subsided. My brother, my son and i took a vote, spend the nite here or try
to make it ashore. We all decided to give it a try. We put on the life preservers, made a few plans if we capsized and were seperated, said a prayer
and headed for the city lights of BOLA. My son was in the bow for balast, my brother bailed the boat by hand and I ran the tiller on the 25hp motor.
We were terrified but we made it. We pulled into town haggared, wet, cold (december) but alive.
Not a good sized boat to be caught in the unexpected winds of the Sea of Cortez. I now own a 22' boat designed for the seas there, a Cabo 216.
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This sounds like a story I had at Mag bay. I borrowed a 16 foot gregor baja and proceeded out in to Mag bay with the idea that I could get outside the
entrada for some yellowtail.
I made a couple of friends who went along.
I made it as far as the channel markers before I decided that we couldn't make it. I had actually already gone too far.
We made it back but I wasn't sure the thing wouldn't get swamped.
We certainly cheated death but after a warm shower and a couple of beers I decided to try again just earlier the next morning.
The locals heard my little scheme and could be heard saying muertos, muertos. So I was talked out of trying again.
We did go out in an oceanized panga. That thing got us outside no problem. But even that wasn't enough to get out to the Thetis bank where the tuna
fish are.
So the tin boats have some utility but they can be swamped very easy.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
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BajaWarrior
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That's a good boat for smooth days, but here is what happen's when you let your brother use your boat and it gets rough out...
15' Western side console w/Suzuki 40hp.
Had it for about 8 years until shortly after this day!
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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BajaWarrior
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Next best Baja boat.
18' Westcoaster with a 50hp Yamaha w/power trim, sold to Minnow one year ago. Good boat, but still small for very rough water. Owned for 8 years also.
Next one (soon, now that the new house is complete) will be a larger aluminum, maybe a 22 footer with a 150hp 4 stroke.
[Edited on 6-25-2008 by BajaWarrior]
[Edited on 6-25-2008 by BajaWarrior]
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
The Mexican ovt. commmisioned Mac Schoyer of La Paz to build Pangas for the Fisherman of Baja and the Pacific to carry 2,000 Lbs of Fish through the
Surf.
I owned and Operated a 22 Ft. Panga purchased from Mac in 1976 for 27 years.
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Skeet....Weren't they hard to almost impossible to get in '76 when they were built exclusivly for the co-ops? Around that time I was in Loreto and an
old buddy bought one through some co-op members and it was as hush-hush as a major drug deal.
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Skeet/Loreto
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Dennis: Yes it was some what of a Problem. I had met Mac and his Wife at the La Pearla Cafe. and also had a connection through a Masonic Brother.
I signed a contract with Mac for $960 Dollars-The Peso was still holding at 8 to One. When I went down for Delivery the Peso had gone to 12 to One.
My Panga was the first one made with the Forward Stringers as several of the Panga owners had complained that after hard use there were some Cracks
starting in the Bottoms.
He also installed a side Consol and remote stearing, and made the Seat a Live Bait Tank.
I bought an old Homemade Trailer from a Mexicano in La Paz for $200, used it all the years I had the Panga.
Great boat with a 70 Hp on it.
Skeet/Loreto
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capt. mike
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the best boat for sale here over the last several years was Capt. George's Dusky by far. Watched its price dwindle as he marketed and all of a sudden
- it hit the right level and swoosh it was SOLD!!
ya snooze.....ya lose, but its fun to find the bottom when dealing.
formerly Ordained in Rev. Ewing\'s Church by Mail - busted on tax fraud.......
Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
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Phil S
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Bob & Susan. If your interested in a small boat, I'd suggest you look into the 14' & 16' Livingston. It is an unsinkable hull. It has great
freeboard. It is a twin hull, & it can scoot like crazy through the smaller waves that the aluminum boats would slow down for. It is a quiet
boat, where the aluminums are noisy. I've owned the 16' and it's model is called Warrior.
I still have my 14' that I used one winter down there. I wasn't nervous at all when the wind would come up and it was time to head home. And when the
water wass calm, my 25 HP Johnson would cruise right along about 35 knots. Hell of a boat. I know out of Port Orford, Oregon (southern Oregon coast)
several 14' Livingstons are used regularly by the fishermen offshore. Good luck on your search.
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