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Drug Cartel kills head of Mexican Drug Trafficing Division Today
Fox News at 10 is reporting that the head of the Mexican Drug Trafficing division was gunned down along with his body guard today while they had lunch
in Mexico City. A second body guard and female bystander were wounded in the attack.
I'm sure someone will post the printed version once it hits the wires.
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S.D.Onion....
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/20080626-1315-mexi...
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.. and the BBC version
Mexican police commander killed
By Duncan Kennedy
BBC News, Mexico City
A federal police commander has been shot dead in Mexico City, the latest in a long line of law enforcement personnel murdered in recent weeks.
It is likely that he was targeted by drug cartels who are battling the authorities over a clamp down on their drug smuggling operations.
Igor Labastida was eating lunch in a restaurant when he was killed.
Eyewitnesses say two people got out of a car, went into the restaurant and opened fire on him and his escorts.
Mr Labastida, who headed the anti-trafficking and contraband division of the Mexican federal police force, died along with a body guard.
Around 400 law enforcement officers have now been killed in Mexico so far this year.
Last month gunmen shot dead the acting director of the country's federal police force.
In other cities police officers have resigned or sought asylum in the United States after receiving threats.
In all nearly 1,500 people have been murdered since January. In one city alone, Juarez, just across the border from the United States, more than 40
people have been killed since the weekend.
Mexico's President Felipe Calderon is using the regular army to tackle the cartels. Key figures in the drug gangs have been arrested.
But the death of yet another senior police officer is further proof the cartels are not beaten.
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I worry but how does the average Mexican citizen feel? We (USA citizens) can leave the area but the average Mexican is stuck.
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It's not just in MX anymore the Cartels sending their death squads to the USA. 
Coming soon to a neighborhood near you....But you may not hear about it, because for some reason the media is trying to suppress this story, or play
it down.
You’d think Mexican Drug Cartel Attempts to Ambush Police After Assassinating US Citizen in Arizona, would warrant front page
coverage……
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Six men with guns and body armor ambushed and killed a man in his Phoenix home Sunday, firing over one hundred rounds into the house.
No one else was injured. Investigators believe the house was being used to sell marijuana and the shooting was not random. Nevertheless, the large
amount of ammunition alarmed authorities.
"We have seen an increasing amount of these type of violent crimes in the past five months," Phoenix Police Sgt. Joel Tranter said. "We want the
public to realize that these types of crimes will not be tolerated in Phoenix."
Phoenix police officials gave the following details about the case: Special Assignments Unit detectives were near the area of 83rd Avenue and Encanto
Boulevard when they heard gunshots coming from a neighborhood. The detectives began to drive toward the gunshots where they were directed by neighbors
to a nearby house.
Once inside the home, detectives discovered the body of Andrew Williams, 30, shot numerous times, Phoenix Police Detective Cindy Scott said.
As more investigators came to help, they noticed a red Chevrolet Tahoe driving suspiciously in the neighborhood. Detectives followed the vehicle to
7th Street and Coronado Road where Daniel Garcia-Saenz, 24; Manual Garcia-Trejom, 25; and Rodolfo Madrigal Lopez, 19, jumped out and ran from the
vehicle before being apprehended by authorities.
All three suspects were wearing law-enforcement-like body armor. Helmets and various weapons were recovered from the suspect's vehicle.
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June 26, 2008
Mexican cartel Los Zetas paramilitary surrogates attacked and slaughtered an American in Phoenix Ariz. Police say the attackers were dressed in black
military like combat uniforms very similar to known Mexican cartel paramilitary gangs.
According to early and sketchy reports a Phoenix Police Special Assignments Units heard shots coming from a nearby neighborhood and began to drive
toward the noise Sunday. Detectives said once police gained entry into the home, they found the body of Andrew Williams, 30, shot numerous times,
according to Arizona Daily News.
Former Rep. J.D. Hayworth, R-Ariz., said Tuesday on 550 KFYI-AM that he had acquired an internal memo identifying one of the suspects as a
former member of the Mexican military. The men were said to be wielding AR-15 assault weapons and wearing full body armor and black assault
gear similar to uniforms worn by military and police tactical teams.
Just as more investigators appeared on the scene, they saw a suspicious red Chevrolet Tahoe driving through the neighborhood. As the officers gave
chase three men jumped from the vehicle and ran, but police ran them down and arrested them. Spencer said the men were intending to try and
ambush the pursuing officers but had ran out of ammunition. 
Daniel Garcia-Saenz, 24, Manual Garcia-Trejom, 25, and Rodolfo Madrigal Lopez, 19, each wore tactical clothing and Kevlar helmets and other weapons
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bacquito
I worry but how does the average Mexican citizen feel? We (USA citizens) can leave the area but the average Mexican is stuck.
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IMHO all the ones who had the brains and ability to go north for a better life for themselves and their family already have. At least that's how it
worked in my family. Our house is the only one in TJ area for our family (from Torreon). We sometimes get friends fo the family waiting at our house
for the call from their coyote to cross north. I know more about this than I ever wanted to- and the family knows I will have nothing to do with it
or help financially. I just treat them as houseguests and wish them well.
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NOt true...my husband would NEVER consider going north for a "better life". Yes the average mexican is disgruntled and fed up with corruption and
crime but not all want an american lifestyle either. My husband is VERY intelligent and has the ability to "go north" but his option does not interest
him or our family. He has talked/dreamed about selling out when things get too busy here and going to another country..but not north! So
Whooosh/Fulano why don't you go back to the states?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
So Whooosh/Fulano why don't you go back to the states? |
I live in the states.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
So Whooosh/Fulano why don't you go back to the states? |
I live in the states.
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I agree with Shari- We live in the US market that is in contention here and many Mexicans are caught in the middle in the effort to supply our
voracious appetite for drugs. Why do so many of us want to spend as much time in Baja or live there if we are already in paradise? Many of us envy the
lifestyle enjoyed by Jaun and Shari as well as many others living in mexico.Why would they want to leave for the "better life"?
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Baja is a sweet place to visit during the winter. Lots of snow birds
escaping from the cold. Here today, gone to tomorrow crowd. All those "home folks" do what they have to do to survive year 'round, raise their
kids, make ends meet, and "keep on keeping on".
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
NOt true...my husband would NEVER consider going north for a "better life". Yes the average mexican is disgruntled and fed up with corruption and
crime but not all want an american lifestyle either. My husband is VERY intelligent and has the ability to "go north" but his option does not interest
him or our family. He has talked/dreamed about selling out when things get too busy here and going to another country..but not north! So
Whooosh/Fulano why don't you go back to the states? |
So you're proud yet ashamed of Mexico, but would leave it for places south before fighting for it? Great- Venezuela could use a few more goats.
Mexican has ruined one country already-Mexico, let's keep it that way. You'd think some of the 11 million that left would care about saving Mexico-
but the La Raza convention next month in San Diego is discussing the mortgage crisis as the most important issue facing Mexicans.
We all make our own truths. In Mexico they make it up as they go along. 11 million of your fellow countrymen have already voted with their feet! I
do agree that the States don't appeal to all Mexicans. Several of my nephews (late teens-early twenties) moved back to mainland Mexico because they
were tired of being called poor in the USA- in Mexico they are solid middle class.
The Germans were sad and appalled too when the N-zis took control- but they did nothing. Ask anyone Jewish if they think the german/french people
could have prevented WWII (and the atrocities) if they only had stuck up for each other. In the end they were all cowards and the USA and Britain had
to save their sorry butts. Being outraged, disgruntled and fed up will do nothing to better Mexico if they don't have the guts to act. And it's very
obvious they don't.
I have homes and family on both sides. My dogs and falcons like it on this side. I do enjoy watching the Mexicans run away screaming from our 4
month lab puppy. Does it bite?! Does it Bite?! LOL. I tell them they should be afraid of the narcos not the perros. I had a mexican speed-walker
(with her own yippy dog off leash) raise a stick to my puppy the other day. I took it out of her hand and threw it into the water. Such idiots. They
don't know that ALL animals chase a running target? When you hold a stick or ball in the air to a dog it's playtime- a lab puppy wants to play fetch-
not kill. They worry about all the wrong things down here.
Tell your hubby to do something before his country is no more. Or does he have a cop friend who takes bribes and a narco for a neighbor? Don't feel
insulted- everyone down here has a corrupt friend--- just in case.
They wiped out the mighty Aztecs to bring this level of civilization to Mexico? geesh.
[Edited on 6-28-2008 by Woooosh]
[Edited on 6-28-2008 by Woooosh]
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MOre and more snow birds are settling here...not just for the weather. Our little part of baja is at it's best in the summer! It's not so stiffling
hot like other areas of america so is a great place year round. I found it interesting that very few locals here would live in the states even given
the chance and many have gone there and returned here. We are relatively untouched by the stories of assasinations, kidnappings, robberies and
although not rich in monetary terms, the people here are very happy to live here. Our cops live here and are the sons of the locals here so they know
everyone...corruption is at a minimum....OK, if I get busted for running over a curb, I DO bring the comandante a fish when he lets me off with a
warning and a smile. I am finding these daily negative posts and newspaper articles about how bad baja is...well frankly...they suck and take away
from the spirit of this board. while it's not a question of sticking our heads in the ground and avoiding the issues of corruption and crime in
baja...it's just that do we really need to read these negative posts here every day?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
I am finding these daily negative posts and newspaper articles about how bad baja is...well frankly...they suck and take away from the spirit of this
board. while it's not a question of sticking our heads in the ground and avoiding the issues of corruption and crime in baja...it's just that do we
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Shari, I just want to point out that a couple of weeks ago you were ranting about the US's system for granting visas and the hard time you had getting
one for your hubby to go to Canada via San Diego. That was a decidedly negative post.
Everybody has their own hot buttons. Have you ever heard the old Spanish saying:
"Cada cual sabe donde le aprieta el zapato."?
[Edited on 6-28-2008 by fulano]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LancairDriver
I agree with Shari- We live in the US market that is in contention here and many Mexicans are caught in the middle in the effort to supply our
voracious appetite for drugs. Why do so many of us want to spend as much time in Baja or live there if we are already in paradise? Many of us envy the
lifestyle enjoyed by Jaun and Shari as well as many others living in mexico.Why would they want to leave for the "better life"?
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It's not even a true statement. It's not the vorqacious appetite for drugs that is causing this problem- it's the glut of supply. Drug use is down
in the USA. The narcos are killing each other to stop competitors from getting to the USA and diluting the market with their drugs. Cocaine is down
to $33 a gram in San Diego and they aren't happy about it. They go all that trouble to kill police, ruin their country and to only get 25% of what
they did a decade ago?
I'll bet there's more weed growing in Oregon and upscale grow houses in the USA than comes in from Mexico. The more the narcos send north, the cheaper
it gets and the less profit. If we let all the drugs across and flooded the market with drugs- it'd put the narcos out of that business (they'd just
move to more kidnappings and extortions though) . Or did that only work with prohibition? Anyhow is JMHO, don't take it serous.
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A visa for Canada? They don't care if yo are legal or not once you get there. If fact, they welcome Mexicans (and all immigrants) with free
apartments, food stamp, free health care, etc. We have a middle aged female friend who crossed into the USA illegally to pass through to Canada-
she's lovong it. She sold her house in TJ and hasn't looked back.
She is right about the visa mess. I can see why people just pay a coyote sometimes. To get my own 70 year old mother-in-law a visa to visit her
grandchildren statesdie has been two-year long, expensive nightmare. We're in it for about $1100 and not done yet. We had to show the USA gov't
three years taxes to prove she won't be a burden stateside to taxpayers should she get in an accident or become ill. A sponsor has to sign that they
will be personally responsible for any bills incurred while in the USA. If she was under 300 pounds I'd throw her over the fence myslef at this
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fulano
| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
I am finding these daily negative posts and newspaper articles about how bad baja is...well frankly...they suck and take away from the spirit of this
board. while it's not a question of sticking our heads in the ground and avoiding the issues of corruption and crime in baja...it's just that do we
really need to read these negative posts here every day? |
Shari, I just want to point out that a couple of weeks ago you were ranting about the US's system for granting visas and the hard time you had getting
one for your hubby to go to Canada via San Diego. That was a decidedly negative post.
Everybody has their own hot buttons. Have you ever heard the old Spanish saying:
"Cada cual sabe donde le aprieta el zapato."?
[Edited on 6-28-2008 by fulano] |
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fulano
| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
I am finding these daily negative posts and newspaper articles about how bad baja is...well frankly...they suck and take away from the spirit of this
board. while it's not a question of sticking our heads in the ground and avoiding the issues of corruption and crime in baja...it's just that do we
really need to read these negative posts here every day? |
Shari, I just want to point out that a couple of weeks ago you were ranting about the US's system for granting visas and the hard time you had getting
one for your hubby to go to Canada via San Diego. That was a decidedly negative post.
Everybody has their own hot buttons. Have you ever heard the old Spanish saying:
"Cada cual sabe donde le aprieta el zapato."?
[Edited on 6-28-2008 by fulano] |
I agree somewhat. It's supposed to be a fun board. Since the Gringo Gazette went away though- there is no place for Americans to hear the truth.
Things are posted on this board that never see print on weither side of the border. I think it's generous of the board moderators to allow us to vent
a little and would love to see a forum for "bad news" besides "off topic". In my six years here (and no, I wouldn't do it again knowing what I now
know), I've: had my truck stolen, had one kidnap attempt, had false charges filed against me and been physically assaulted. None of that crap
happened to me stateside. The crazy part down here is everyone seems to know who does these bad petty things, but won't turn them in. Neighbors
stealing from neighbors and then offering to help find the crooks. It's really pathetic and I see it all the time.
My neighbor saved $5K to have iron gates around the house made. The guy asked if he could use the power at her house to construct them on site. She
figured that was a great idea- she would be sure they got done. Even I watched while he made them and they were indeed beautiful. Then one day they
were gone. She said the guy used her electiricty to make the ironwork but installed them on another house! He ripped her for $5K. Just pathetic.
[Edited on 6-28-2008 by Woooosh]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
I think it's generous of the moderators |
Speaking of which...Do we have a new moderator to fill Hose A's shoes? Is Doug doing it alone?
Who, in everybody's opinion should be the new moderator?
Should this be a new thread? Did I just hyjack something?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
To get my own 70 year old mother-in-law a visa to visit her grandchildren statesdie has been two-year long, expensive nightmare.
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I had the same problem with getting a visa for my suegra. I think I went through everything but a shortarm inspection . She spent one year up here and
then moved back home to her rancho. I can't really say I blame her. She is not an economic refugee and preferred to live among her friends in her own
country. There was nothing for her up here in El Norte.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Do we have a new moderator to fill Hose A's shoes? Is Doug doing it alone? |
Is he gone? I didn't get the memo.
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