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Alex
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Can anyone explain the wait?
With tourism down as a whole to Baja - can anyone explain why the wait at the linea seems longer than ever?
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Quien Sabe ?
Having seen my usual Thursday 2 p.m. crossing vary each time from Zero wait to an Hour plus, I've asked the Badge guys time and again if they had any
idea and I've never gotten any useful info. The standard answer seems to be the Gas Guzzling Border Jumpers, but who knows ? The vast majority of
the plates seem to be Mexican, but I read from someone else that Mexicans are driving across with a full tank to sell it. That "seems" unlikely, but
it could be.
The bottom line is that there is no way to forecast the wait other than perhaps crossing in the early a.m. night.
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lizard lips
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There is a lot of traffic at that time also from parents picking up their children from schools in San Diego but not in the summer.
I have noticed that the sentri lanes are a lot longer than they use to be also. It use to be that the best time to cross using the sentri was about
9:30 am but now it doesn't matter.
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Isn't the crossing at Tijuana the busiest international border crossing on the planet? It seems somehow logical that there would be a waiting line.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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Tradition ?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lizard lips
There is a lot of traffic at that time also from parents picking up their children from schools in San Diego but not in the summer.
I have noticed that the sentri lanes are a lot longer than they use to be also. It use to be that the best time to cross using the sentri was about
9:30 am but now it doesn't matter. |
Great... schools in CA are financed from property taxes, and people who pay no US property tax are bringing their kids here??? Can you imaging if we
brought our kids to TJ for free schooling and also demanded that they be taught in English, what the Mexicans would say!!!???
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by lizard lips
There is a lot of traffic at that time also from parents picking up their children from schools in San Diego but not in the summer.
I have noticed that the sentri lanes are a lot longer than they use to be also. It use to be that the best time to cross using the sentri was about
9:30 am but now it doesn't matter. |
Great... schools in CA are financed from property taxes, and people who pay no US property tax are bringing their kids here??? Can you imaging if we
brought our kids to TJ for free schooling and also demanded that they be taught in English, what the Mexicans would say!!!??? |
and they have the nerve to limit fuel sales to gringos because we're taking advantage of subsidized fuel? how about 20 million being subsidized by
U.S. taxpayers??? i guess it's human nature to take what you can get. maybe if they install a fence like we voted for, and started kicking out those
who work under the table or for minimum wage, since they drain more than they pay in taxes we'll have a chance at a future the way we know it now.
when in history has there ever been such a drain on a society and it ended pretty? mexico should be bending over to receive us gringos!!!
ahh, WTF or WTF!
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David K
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Yah, there is no way to come out of this with so much PC crappola... The ACLU seems totally ready to destroy America!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Yah, there is no way to come out of this with so much PC crappola... The ACLU seems totally ready to destroy America! |
what does the ACLU have to do with border waits or immigration? seems to me that capitalism causes illegal immigration, and border waits are the
fault of understaffing at Homeland Security. you would be better off ranting against business practices causing immigration and homeland security
causing border waits, rather than ranting at ACLU
with rabid anti-imigrant bias and racism, it is nice to think that maybe one group is thinking about human and constitutional rights... one only
hopes.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Yah, there is no way to come out of this with so much PC crappola... The ACLU seems totally ready to destroy America! |
what does the ACLU have to do with border waits or immigration? seems to me that capitalism causes illegal immigration, and border waits are the
fault of understaffing at Homeland Security. you would be better off ranting against business practices causing immigration and homeland security
causing border waits, rather than ranting at ACLU
with rabid anti-imigrant bias and racism, it is nice to think that maybe one group is thinking about human and constitutional rights... one only
hopes. |
i think DK was being too subtle for your frail mind. maybe you should just spend your golden years living off the fat of the land whilst the rest of
us pay your way, too! after all, it is america where the streets are paved with gold right?
let's let everyone in and raise taxes 50% so we can all enjoy the good life, aye? the rich get richer, the poor gets richer and the middle
disappears.
edit:p.s. my take on the Another Crazy Liberal, Uneducated.....ah, who cares? hopefully you live to see the day when your open border mentality
swallows you up and craps you out!!!
[Edited on 7-12-2008 by woody in ob]
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k-rico
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wow!
I'm just a newbie so I don't know nothing but some of these messages are pretty wild.
Woody, this is about people crossing the border legally and looking an American official straight in the eyes, while handing over the proper
identification. The fence you're talking about and the illegal immigration issue that has you all worked up have nothing to do with the border
congestion.
And I don't get the idea that Mexican kids living in Mexico are going to US public schools. Does that happen? If so the folks running the US school
admissions department aren't too bright. Thought you had to live in the school district to attend its schools.
Anyway perhaps the reason the border is getting more and more crowded is because there are more and more people living on both sides of it. And
because it is summer and the kids are out of school, there's more non-rush hour traffic. More people, the same number of lanes.
But like I said, I don't know nothing, the border is probably crowded because of the ACLU and all the Mexicans entering illegally by going through a
port of entry staffed by American officals.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Yah, there is no way to come out of this with so much PC crappola... The ACLU seems totally ready to destroy America! |
what does the ACLU have to do with border waits or immigration? seems to me that capitalism causes illegal immigration, and border waits are the
fault of understaffing at Homeland Security. you would be better off ranting against business practices causing immigration and homeland security
causing border waits, rather than ranting at ACLU
with rabid anti-imigrant bias and racism, it is nice to think that maybe one group is thinking about human and constitutional rights... one only
hopes. |
mtgoat666, I was replying to my friend Woody... if you read his post above mine, then you will see what I am talking about, if you need to know.
IF I ever start a thread (new topic) with a non-Baja or political slant, please hit the report button to the moderator for a violation. If you read a
political thought from me, it will be in response to or to give equal time to an already posted liberal statement made. You libs are into openess,
freedom of expression, and all that, aren't you? Then you should be happy to have both sides posted for all to consider and make an intelligent
decision about ... right?
Once a thread gets going, various topic changes and replies between the Nomads can happen... Nothing racist was implied either... Mexico is a country,
and I use the word 'Mexicans' to mean the citizens of the Republic of Mexico, no matter what their color or ethnic make up is.
Now, go to some other threads and tell me how George Bush or the war in Iraq has anything to do with the topics there! You don't complaing about them,
do you?
Have a nice day
[Edited on 7-12-2008 by David K]
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you're right. there is alot of overlap in this thread....sorry. it's friday and after a long work week i get kinda loopy thinking how much of my taxes
go to finance an existence for a citizen of another country who has no intention of assimilating (a broad generalization, i know!).
"And I don't get the idea that Mexican kids living in Mexico are going to US public schools. Does that happen? If so the folks running the US school
admissions department aren't too bright. Thought you had to live in the school district to attend its schools."
i guess the mexicans are too dumb to use the address of their cousin's baby momma so the school district will have can collect federal funds for "no
child left behind". trust me, go stand outside of any school along the border and count the mexican license plates dropping kids off near the school.
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My son went to school in San Diego close to Imperial Beach (we were living there at the time) and I would say that half of the kids were from TJ. I
would think that was about 400 that were being educated there as well as having free lunch's in that they provided something to show that the parents
were not working and on some sort of Govt. program. This is true! The school was only 5 miles from the border right off the 5 freeway.
Every time I would pick up my son from school I would see a lot of Mexican plated vehicles. Apparently these people use some family members address to
use when they enroll their kids. 90% of these kids could not speak English so they were in a "special class" with a Spanish speaking teacher. I
complained to the school system no less than 20 times during the three years he attended this elementary school and I was told that there was no way
to discredit the fact that they were not living in the US due to the address they provided when the kids enrolled. Just how much money is spent year
after year for providing an education for Mexican nationals that live in Mexico and cross their kids every day?
I forgot to add that this not only happens in TJ but every where along the border. My wife's cousins in Nogales send there kids to school in Arizona
and must go back and forth every day.
[Edited on 01/10/2007 by lizard lips]
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Alex
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Of all the things to get wrapped up in - worrying about your property taxes going into kids trying to get a decent education?
Damn that is pretty selfish. Those kids - how ever many they are did not choose to be born in Mexico to a substandard school system. Did you get the
choice to be born in America?
Have you ever wondered or even looked into what part our government plays in keeping Mexico as it is?
I regret that I asked this question - it turned into something fea.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Alex
Of all the things to get wrapped up in - worrying about your property taxes going into kids trying to get a decent education?
Damn that is pretty selfish. Those kids - how ever many they are did not choose to be born in Mexico to a substandard school system. Did you get the
choice to be born in America?
Have you ever wondered or even looked into what part our government plays in keeping Mexico as it is?
I regret that I asked this question - it turned into something fea. |
it is ugly when you consider that people with your point of view don't give away all of their belongings and live the life of a monk, all the while
going to work everyday so you can hand out your hard earned money to "la raza". how can you look yourself in the mirror? 
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lizard lips
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Alex,
I am not getting wrapped up in this topic. It is illegal for kids to use the school system in the US if they don't live in the US. Plain and simple.
To be honest with you I am concerned about MY SON getting a decent education since he is a US citizen and we were not breaking the law. 38 kids to a
class room? How can a teacher spend enough time with one student who is having a problem when they have 37 others to educate. If it wasn't for al of
the illegals using the US schools how much money could your local school system save and even benefit the teachers who are grossly under paid. That is
not being selfish is it? Must they also be fed as well. It appears that they have enough money to buy gas and have a car that transports them here.
I was not asked to be born in the US but I am glad that I was -VERY GLAD- but I don't have to pay for the education for every illegal citizen that is
breaking the law. Please be legal to live, work, and be educated in my country. Plain and simple.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Alex
Of all the things to get wrapped up in - worrying about your property taxes going into kids trying to get a decent education?
Damn that is pretty selfish. Those kids - how ever many they are did not choose to be born in Mexico to a substandard school system. Did you get the
choice to be born in America?
Have you ever wondered or even looked into what part our government plays in keeping Mexico as it is?
I regret that I asked this question - it turned into something fea. |
it's pure chance as to whether a soul is born north or south of the border. the border is a political line, and not a cultural line. i am all for
mexicans trying to game the system and partake of services in US,... given that gringos do the same and try to take advantage of the system in mexico.
many gringos vacation in mexico to take advanatage of lower prices/cheap labor. gringos consume massive amounts of cheap products made by low-paid
workers in maquilladoras. heck, half the people on this board own or lease property in mexico in part because they can't afford similar property in
US. these expats cause mexican real estate to be unaffordable for mexicans. so if you gringos are gaming the system in mexico, i am all for mexicans
gaming the system here.
most of all, people in TJ are my neighbors as they live only tens of miles away, and i think mexican kids in TJ have as much right to an education as
some snot nose gringo kid from kearny mesa -- i really don't mind if my property taxes go to improving the lives of a few mexican kids who are
neighbors.
why do you conservatives so hate it when a few mexican families get some schooling in the US? are you really that selfish to not recognize that
gringo wealth in san diego is in part due to cheap labor and substandard conditions just across the border.
DK, you are in the landscapinng biz, and i bet $100 you incur economic benefit from illegal labor in your industry if not on each of your projects.
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Alex
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Explain how living like a monk or me looking at a mirror has anything to do with this
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Alex
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lizard lips
Alex,
I am not getting wrapped up in this topic. It is illegal for kids to use the school system in the US if they don't live in the US. Plain and simple.
To be honest with you I am concerned about MY SON getting a decent education since he is a US citizen and we were not breaking the law. 38 kids to a
class room? How can a teacher spend enough time with one student who is having a problem when they have 37 others to educate. If it wasn't for al of
the illegals using the US schools how much money could your local school system save and even benefit the teachers who are grossly under paid. That is
not being selfish is it? Must they also be fed as well. It appears that they have enough money to buy gas and have a car that transports them here.
I was not asked to be born in the US but I am glad that I was -VERY GLAD- but I don't have to pay for the education for every illegal citizen that is
breaking the law. Please be legal to live, work, and be educated in my country. Plain and simple. |
You have valid points. You should rightfully worry about your son. Your comments were not the ones I regarded as selfish.
Teachers are underpaid and 37 to a classroom is unacceptable.
You have to ask if our country has a priorities straight then. A land were the rich are raping their own people - shaking hands with the enemy. Or
billions of our tax dollars going into a war machine that advertises for its manpower en espanol, cabrones.
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