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Turtle Article - Cabo
The next time you’re in Los Cabos, Mexico, greet the sea turtles and wish them well. Just 15 minutes north of Cabo San Lucas, in Rancho Punta San
Cristobal, the Assn. for the Protection of the Environment and the Marine Turtle in Southern Baja (ASUPMATOMA) invites you to explore its sea turtle
camps. There, you can spend time with local biologists and learn more about the endangered species.
According to the organization’s website, the sea turtle population in the Sea of Cortez region is in great danger because of pollution, land
development and illegal fishing and hunting. Sea turtles have been around for more than 200 million years. For many reasons, it’d be a shame to see
them go.
ASUPMATOMA’s opening season for visitors has started, and goes through the end of March 2009. There is no admission fee to tour the preserves, though
donations to the nonprofit organization are gratefully accepted. If you’d like to visit, the organization requests that you call ahead of time or
e-mail via the website.
Contact: ASUPMATOMA, +52 (624) 14-165-41
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palmeto99
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Its is because of the Mexicans mistaken belief that eating these wonderful creatures leads to some male potency boosts. They know that the turtle
population is in peril but the majority just do not care...
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Udo
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Where is the person that asked this group where the best place is in Baja to find turtle soup?
I believe Nomad Lee started the thread. It was thankfully ended with many nomads speaking on behalf of the turtles and the ongoing conservation
efforts in Baja.
Udo
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palmeto99
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I found the posts about turtle soup disturbing and found the people who were advocating the eating of the soup revolting. You know who you are...
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Lee
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Turtles? I SAVE turtles! I am Zorro!
| Quote: | Originally posted by udowinkler
Where is the person that asked this group where the best place is in Baja to find turtle soup?
I believe Nomad Lee started the thread. It was thankfully ended with many nomads speaking on behalf of the turtles and the ongoing conservation
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Yes it was me -- and it was Shark who asked, prior, if turtles were REALLY being eaten in Baja. My post asked where in Baja turtles were BEING
eaten. Hypocrits that they are, those who eat turtles, or, sit at the table in restaurants while their FRIENDS eat turtles, did not post where the
restaurants are.
I recognize that cultural lag and lack of education by Mexicans AND AMERICANS have put turtles on the endangered species list.
I DO NOT eat turtles -- and if I had to PRIVATELY allow someone to LOSE FACE as they served up turtle, I'd allow them to lose face gently. Geeze.
I recognize that dead turtles, families that can only subsist on turtles, along with other endangered species, get some slack cut.
The rest need to be beaten with an ugly stick.
Turtles = virility? Poor poor Mexican men. Guess they're lacking in ways most US men aren't.
Hey, from that thread, I didn't get that noMads eat turtles. Only that they allow turtles to be eaten -- rather than allow someone NOT to lose
face. Hypocrits! Show some backbone!
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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fulano
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Turtles are not kosher.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fulano
Turtles are not kosher. |
No, but traditionally, they are considered "fish" and therefore are a popular "non-meat" dish for Semana Santa.
I have heard, but can't find the source, that turtle protection groups have been unsuccessful in attempts to get the Vatican to declare that sea
turtles are NOT fish.
Also, researchers Comer and Nichols write...
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In Loreto, knowledge of the local black market turtle trade is widespread. Butchered sea turtle meat in Loreto can bring in US$9-14/lb (MN
200-300/kg), or sometimes more in winter when turtles are scarcer. Anonymous informants from Loreto have noted that sea turtle is a dish served at
dinners for politicians, the police, and drug dealers...
...There are only a few well known turtle poachers in Loreto, but some speculate that collectively they kill around 360 turtles per year...
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source: Loreto, the Future of the First Capitol of the Californias
San Diego State and UABCS
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palmeto99
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As a long time resident of Loreto, I have been offered the shell of a turtle(not the meat) at least 4 times a year over 14 years. You do the
math...
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Udo
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Hola, Lee,
I'm glad that neither you nor any Nomad allowed that information to get disseminated.
Once I move near La Paz with my RV, you'll see me & my wife being higly active in a variety of conservation efforts. I am not an environmentalist
on the US side of the border (look what happened in the San Bernardino mountains when they managed to stop the USFS from clearing the dead trees and
cut additional fire roads a few years ago).
Udo
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Humane Society International: Methods used to capture and kill sea turtles generally cause stress and suffering, as they are usually
captured live, stored on their backs in the direct sun without food or water, and slaughtered by cutting open the shell while the animals are still
conscious.
 This does not look like it was killed humanely.
Save the Sea Turtle and stop them from being slaughtered while still alive screaming in pain as they are cut from their shells!
"One for all, all for one"
ROLL CALL
Save the Sea Turtles...
  
[Edited on 7-21-2008 by ELINVESTI8]
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Udo
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Weeeeeelllll, it did not work...
I was trying to add my name to the sword fight.
My programming skills are comical
Udo
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