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[*] posted on 8-3-2008 at 09:30 AM
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT TO AMERICAN CITIZENS


PLEASE CIRCULATE THIS IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT TO
AS MANY AMERICAN CITIZENS AS POSSIBLE
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August 1, 2008


Possible Demonstrations Arising from the Scheduled Execution of Jose Ernesto Medellin

The U.S. Embassy has received information that numerous demonstrations may occur in Mexico on or around August 5, 2008, to protest the scheduled execution in Texas of prisoner José Ernesto Medellín, a Mexican citizen. The Embassy urges all U.S. citizens in Mexico to be especially mindful of demonstrations taking place in their town or city, or in areas to which they intend to travel.

Travelers should be aware that various political activists abroad frequently seek to use public demonstrations to forward a variety of political objectives and that it is likely that such activists may use the occasion of anti-execution demonstrations to raise other issues involving the United States or to incite anti-U.S. sentiment in general.
The Mexican Constitution prohibits political activities by foreigners, and such actions may result in detention and/or deportation. Travelers should avoid political demonstrations and other activities that might be deemed political by the Mexican authorities. We wish to remind American citizens that even demonstrations intended to be peaceful can turn confrontational and possibly escalate into violence. American citizens are therefore urged to avoid the areas of demonstrations if possible, and to exercise caution if in the vicinity of any demonstrations.
The Department of State urges American citizens to take responsibility for their own personal security while traveling overseas. For the latest security information, Americans traveling abroad should regularly monitor the Department's travel website, http://www.travel.state.gov, where the current Worldwide Caution, Travel Warnings, and Travel Alerts can be found. Please visit the Safety Issues section for additional safety information.
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[*] posted on 8-3-2008 at 09:39 AM


For what it's worth - in my experience - the vast majority of mexicans I have contact with wish that Mexico also had the death penalty - and most even support (or don't have a problem with) Uncle Sam putting down a mexican murderer in the US - just my own unofficial poll.
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[*] posted on 8-3-2008 at 09:44 AM


This is a typical State Department Announcement---we had the same one issued when we were in Honduras and a Honduran was being executed, also by Texas.

It was not a problem, but we did stay out of the capital and away from the Embassy where there were some protests.

Also had the same thing in Mexico City, only it was when the US took out Noriega.

I would not be real concerned, just lay low and if you see a deomonstration, go the other way. Embassys and Consulates seem to be popular places for protests.

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[*] posted on 8-3-2008 at 11:01 AM


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I would not be real concerned, just lay low and if you see a deomonstration, go the other way.

Diane


Excellent advice.

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[*] posted on 8-3-2008 at 11:05 AM


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Originally posted by CaboRon
Quote:
Originally posted by jdtrotter

I would not be real concerned, just lay low and if you see a deomonstration, go the other way.

Diane


Excellent advice.

CaboRon


Except for that awful spelling mistake I made. Shouldn't type with just one cup of coffee. :lol::lol:




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[*] posted on 8-3-2008 at 11:10 AM


Most people in my country who know about this case are disgusted and support this execution. Many are using this case as an example of why we need execution as a punishment for extreme crimes.
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[*] posted on 8-3-2008 at 11:10 AM


Quote:
Originally posted by grover
Quote:
Originally posted by sanluquëna...
I'm kinda curious about the username...

Shouldn't it be sanluqueña?


What's in a name ?

It is a noun, so anything goes.

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[*] posted on 8-3-2008 at 11:11 AM


Quote:
Originally posted by jdtrotter
Quote:
Originally posted by CaboRon
Quote:
Originally posted by jdtrotter

I would not be real concerned, just lay low and if you see a deomonstration, go the other way.

Diane


Excellent advice.

CaboRon


Except for that awful spelling mistake I made. Shouldn't type with just one cup of coffee. :lol::lol:


So, you are not a touch typist ? :lol::lol:




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[*] posted on 8-3-2008 at 06:59 PM


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Most people in my country who know about this case are disgusted and support this execution. Many are using this case as an example of why we need execution as a punishment for extreme crimes.
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The death penalty does NOT deter criminals from commiting heinous crimes. Do you honestly believe that killing Medellin is going to deter the drug lords in Mexico? It might even increase crimes against Americans.
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[*] posted on 8-3-2008 at 11:32 PM


I guarantee it will deter Medellin!

As a MKP warrior I judge that there is more than one way to change the world "one man at a time".




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[*] posted on 8-4-2008 at 09:07 AM
Deterrent


The Death Penalty is an ABSOLUTE deterrent. The Criminal executed will be deterred from any further crime.

BUT, Who cares ? It is just PUNISHMENT for his act.
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[*] posted on 8-4-2008 at 09:18 AM


Ah, the misspelling cop!! You're found out!

Quote:
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Quote:
Originally posted by sanluquëna...
I'm kinda curious about the username...

Shouldn't it be sanluqueña?
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[*] posted on 8-4-2008 at 03:42 PM


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Originally posted by vgabndo


As a MKP warrior


What's an MKP warrior ....

Do you carry a gun ?

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[*] posted on 8-4-2008 at 04:37 PM


I am just guessing.
I went to high school at Mark Keppel, in Alhambra. Their mascot was the Aztec. And we were known as MKP.
I think MKP's had spears, arrows, and sling shots.




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[*] posted on 8-4-2008 at 06:10 PM


Google MKP warrior.

[Edited on 8-5-2008 by jodiego]
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[*] posted on 8-4-2008 at 06:51 PM


I did google MKP and this is what I found .....

The problem I have with the compliments is that NONE of them come from outside of the MKP (NWTA). Why is there no research or official support from the APA or other governing bodies? If the weekend is so effective, this would be the next logical step. There are doctoral statements (all of which seem to cite the same single man as a contributor...Chris Burke, MKP's research director), and lots of single statements, but no hard scientific proof.

When I was approached to attend, I asked about suicides after the weekend, I was told there have been two in this province "but they would have done it anyway". There are also reports of men coming home and physically abusing their wives, I have no evidence of it, but judging by the men's state of mind at the end of the weekend.... it fits.

"Another interesting thing is that MKP has people on staff whose only job is to search online to find and "deal with" negative feedback. Doesn't really fit a group who supposedly help individuals achieve integrity and self-congruance.

In the end the choice about the group's motives and your attendance is yours to make. Just be careful, I know first hand the lengths they will go to in an attempt to coerce you.

From my personal experience (for what it's worth "

:lol: Is this the new EST ...... I actually knew Warner Erhart and he was an unbelievable fraud ....

We called them EST Holes :lol:

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[*] posted on 8-5-2008 at 07:52 AM


Back on track here folks......
Today is the day, August 5, when we may see flags burned and hear protests of an execution in Texas of a scumbag who raped and murdered a 14 and 16 year old girl. The protestors will say it doesn't matter that the girls died at the hands of this c-ckroach, he has a right to live. They're going to argue for his rights and disregard the rights that were denied these kids.
Disgusting.
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[*] posted on 8-5-2008 at 09:58 AM


Agreed! As a matter of fact, I don't think the word c-ckroach even begins to describe these guys. Look at it from the girls' parents' eyes and tell me he deserves to live. The only way he would deserve to live is by remaining solitary confinement without parole for the rest of his life (perhaps with Bubba as visitor). If I were Mexican, I would be too ashamed to be a citizen of a country that produced this scum, much less protest to save his life.
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[*] posted on 8-5-2008 at 10:09 AM


Have never been able to understand the mindset of people that embrace these killers and turn them into some sort of heroes. :no:What are they thinking?:O
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[*] posted on 8-5-2008 at 10:30 AM


Quote:
Originally posted by udowinkler
I am just guessing.
I went to high school at Mark Keppel, in Alhambra. Their mascot was the Aztec. And we were known as MKP.
I think MKP's had spears, arrows, and sling shots.


Hmm, I went to Alhambra H.S. when they still spoke English in the neighborhood. I had friends from Ramona Grammar school who went to Mark Keppel. We had, certainly, a friendly competitive relationship in those days.




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