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sanluquëna
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IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT TO AMERICAN CITIZENS
PLEASE CIRCULATE THIS IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT TO
AS MANY AMERICAN CITIZENS AS POSSIBLE
Warden Message
August 1, 2008
Possible Demonstrations Arising from the Scheduled Execution of Jose Ernesto Medellin
The U.S. Embassy has received information that numerous demonstrations may occur in Mexico on or around August 5, 2008, to protest the scheduled
execution in Texas of prisoner José Ernesto Medellín, a Mexican citizen. The Embassy urges all U.S. citizens in Mexico to be especially mindful of
demonstrations taking place in their town or city, or in areas to which they intend to travel.
Travelers should be aware that various political activists abroad frequently seek to use public demonstrations to forward a variety of political
objectives and that it is likely that such activists may use the occasion of anti-execution demonstrations to raise other issues involving the United
States or to incite anti-U.S. sentiment in general.
The Mexican Constitution prohibits political activities by foreigners, and such actions may result in detention and/or deportation. Travelers should
avoid political demonstrations and other activities that might be deemed political by the Mexican authorities. We wish to remind American citizens
that even demonstrations intended to be peaceful can turn confrontational and possibly escalate into violence. American citizens are therefore urged
to avoid the areas of demonstrations if possible, and to exercise caution if in the vicinity of any demonstrations.
The Department of State urges American citizens to take responsibility for their own personal security while traveling overseas. For the latest
security information, Americans traveling abroad should regularly monitor the Department's travel website, http://www.travel.state.gov, where the current Worldwide Caution, Travel Warnings, and Travel Alerts can be found. Please visit the Safety Issues
section for additional safety information.
Up-to-date information on safety and security can also be obtained by calling 1-888-407-4747 toll free in the United States, or, for callers outside
the United States and Canada, a regular toll line at 1-202-501-4444. These numbers are available from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Eastern Time, Monday
through Friday (except U.S. federal holidays).
To contact U.S. Consulate General Tijuana
Call (52) (624) 622-74-00
To contact the U.S. Consular Agency in Cabo San Lucas
Call (52) (624) 143-35-66
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Eugenio
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For what it's worth - in my experience - the vast majority of mexicans I have contact with wish that Mexico also had the death penalty - and most even
support (or don't have a problem with) Uncle Sam putting down a mexican murderer in the US - just my own unofficial poll.
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DianaT
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This is a typical State Department Announcement---we had the same one issued when we were in Honduras and a Honduran was being executed, also by
Texas.
It was not a problem, but we did stay out of the capital and away from the Embassy where there were some protests.
Also had the same thing in Mexico City, only it was when the US took out Noriega.
I would not be real concerned, just lay low and if you see a deomonstration, go the other way. Embassys and Consulates seem to be popular places for
protests.
Diane
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CaboRon
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Quote: | Originally posted by jdtrotter
I would not be real concerned, just lay low and if you see a deomonstration, go the other way.
Diane |
Excellent advice.
CaboRon
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DianaT
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Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
Quote: | Originally posted by jdtrotter
I would not be real concerned, just lay low and if you see a deomonstration, go the other way.
Diane |
Excellent advice.
CaboRon |
Except for that awful spelling mistake I made. Shouldn't type with just one cup of coffee.
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guadalupe
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Most people in my country who know about this case are disgusted and support this execution. Many are using this case as an example of why we need
execution as a punishment for extreme crimes.
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CaboRon
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Quote: | Originally posted by grover
Quote: | Originally posted by sanluquëna... | I'm kinda curious about the username...
Shouldn't it be sanluqueña? |
What's in a name ?
It is a noun, so anything goes.
CaboRon
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CaboRon
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Quote: | Originally posted by jdtrotter
Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
Quote: | Originally posted by jdtrotter
I would not be real concerned, just lay low and if you see a deomonstration, go the other way.
Diane |
Excellent advice.
CaboRon |
Except for that awful spelling mistake I made. Shouldn't type with just one cup of coffee. |
So, you are not a touch typist ?
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jodiego
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Quote: | Originally posted by guadalupe
Most people in my country who know about this case are disgusted and support this execution. Many are using this case as an example of why we need
execution as a punishment for extreme crimes. | .
The death penalty does NOT deter criminals from commiting heinous crimes. Do you honestly believe that killing Medellin is going to deter the drug
lords in Mexico? It might even increase crimes against Americans.
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vgabndo
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I guarantee it will deter Medellin!
As a MKP warrior I judge that there is more than one way to change the world "one man at a time".
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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MrBillM
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Deterrent
The Death Penalty is an ABSOLUTE deterrent. The Criminal executed will be deterred from any further crime.
BUT, Who cares ? It is just PUNISHMENT for his act.
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losfrailes
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Ah, the misspelling cop!! You're found out!
Quote: | Originally posted by grover
Quote: | Originally posted by sanluquëna... | I'm kinda curious about the username...
Shouldn't it be sanluqueña? |
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CaboRon
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Quote: | Originally posted by vgabndo
As a MKP warrior |
What's an MKP warrior ....
Do you carry a gun ?
CaboRon
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Udo
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I am just guessing.
I went to high school at Mark Keppel, in Alhambra. Their mascot was the Aztec. And we were known as MKP.
I think MKP's had spears, arrows, and sling shots.
Udo
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jodiego
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Google MKP warrior.
[Edited on 8-5-2008 by jodiego]
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CaboRon
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I did google MKP and this is what I found .....
The problem I have with the compliments is that NONE of them come from outside of the MKP (NWTA). Why is there no research or official support from
the APA or other governing bodies? If the weekend is so effective, this would be the next logical step. There are doctoral statements (all of which
seem to cite the same single man as a contributor...Chris Burke, MKP's research director), and lots of single statements, but no hard scientific
proof.
When I was approached to attend, I asked about suicides after the weekend, I was told there have been two in this province "but they would
have done it anyway". There are also reports of men coming home and physically abusing their wives, I have no evidence of it, but judging by
the men's state of mind at the end of the weekend.... it fits.
"Another interesting thing is that MKP has people on staff whose only job is to search online to find and "deal with" negative
feedback. Doesn't really fit a group who supposedly help individuals achieve integrity and self-congruance.
In the end the choice about the group's motives and your attendance is yours to make. Just be careful, I know first hand the lengths they will go to
in an attempt to coerce you.
From my personal experience (for what it's worth "
Is this the new EST ...... I actually knew Warner Erhart and he was an
unbelievable fraud ....
We called them EST Holes
CaboRon
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DENNIS
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Back on track here folks......
Today is the day, August 5, when we may see flags burned and hear protests of an execution in Texas of a scumbag who raped and murdered a 14 and 16
year old girl. The protestors will say it doesn't matter that the girls died at the hands of this c-ckroach, he has a right to live. They're going
to argue for his rights and disregard the rights that were denied these kids.
Disgusting.
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postholedigger
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Agreed! As a matter of fact, I don't think the word c-ckroach even begins to describe these guys. Look at it from the girls' parents' eyes and tell me
he deserves to live. The only way he would deserve to live is by remaining solitary confinement without parole for the rest of his life (perhaps with
Bubba as visitor). If I were Mexican, I would be too ashamed to be a citizen of a country that produced this scum, much less protest to save his life.
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Cypress
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Have never been able to understand the mindset of people that embrace these killers and turn them into some sort of heroes. What are they thinking?
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Quote: | Originally posted by udowinkler
I am just guessing.
I went to high school at Mark Keppel, in Alhambra. Their mascot was the Aztec. And we were known as MKP.
I think MKP's had spears, arrows, and sling shots. |
Hmm, I went to Alhambra H.S. when they still spoke English in the neighborhood. I had friends from Ramona Grammar school who went to Mark Keppel. We
had, certainly, a friendly competitive relationship in those days.
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