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2 California cops arrested in Tijuana- Stand Accused of Weapons Charges
The only reason these guys were caught is because they got the random "revision" red light entering Mexico. Tough luck. If Mexico would inspect every
car entering (as we do) gun smugglers would have to use the more risky drug/human smuggling routes and not just drive them into Mexico.
"Two Northern California police officers could face up to 20 years in a Mexican prison after being caught in Tijuana with firearms and about 6,000
rounds of ammunition, authorities said.
The officers, identified as Hermonegenes Llanos and Jorge Luis Matos, were ar- rested Friday afternoon by Mexican authorities. Both are from the
Monterey area.
Llanos is a patrol officer and eight-year veteran of the Soledad Police Department in Monterey County. Police Chief Richard Cox conBrmed the arrest
yesterday and said an internal affairs probe is under way.
Matos was identified as a civilian police sergeant at the Presidio of Monterey, an Army installation.
A U.S. consular official in Tijuana, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sen- sitivity of the case, said the officers could face a
variety of charges, most of them involving the possession of weapons and equipment restricted under Mexican law to military use.
The official said the charges carry penalties ranging from three to 20 years in prison.
Lauren Mack, a spokeswoman for U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, said Llanos and Matos were in custody at the La Mesa Penitentiary in
Tijuana. However, the consular oflicial said a Mexican federal judge ordered Llanos released on bail yesterday.
The two officers had just crossed the border at the San Ysidro port of entry when their SUV was pulled over by Mexican customs officers for a random
inspection, Mack said.
The oflicers found two handguns and "well over 5,000 rounds of ammo" in the vehicle, one official said. A later estimate put the ammunition at 6,000
rounds, Mack said.
Grey Gross: (619) 293-1889; greg.gross@uniontrib.com"
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
The only reason these guys were caught is because they got the random "revision" red light entering Mexico. Tough luck. If Mexico would inspect every
car entering (as we do) gun smugglers would have to use the more risky drug/human smuggling routes and not just drive them into Mexico.
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The oflicers found two handguns and "well over 5,000 rounds of ammo" in the vehicle, one official said. A later estimate put the ammunition at 6,000
rounds, Mack said.
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Yes, lots of ammo, but IMHO, two handguns does not make them smugglers, it just makes them really stupid.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
The only reason these guys were caught is because they got the random "revision" red light entering Mexico. Tough luck. If Mexico would inspect every
car entering (as we do) gun smugglers would have to use the more risky drug/human smuggling routes and not just drive them into Mexico.
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US does NOT inspect every car entering the US - only ones the agent thinks needs inspecting. If the agent doesn't like the way you look, you will get
inspected.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalou
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
The only reason these guys were caught is because they got the random "revision" red light entering Mexico. Tough luck. If Mexico would inspect every
car entering (as we do) gun smugglers would have to use the more risky drug/human smuggling routes and not just drive them into Mexico.
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US does NOT inspect every car entering the US - only ones the agent thinks needs inspecting. If the agent doesn't like the way you look, you will get
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So you are saying that visual inspection and ID check are not inspections?
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AGENCIA FRONTERIZA DE NOTICIAS DE TIJUANA
TIJUANA BC 6 de agosto de 2008 (AFN).-Dos agentes pertenecientes a un grupo élite de la corporación policíaca de San Diego, los cuales fueron
detenidos en la Garita de San Ysidro el pasado viernes, fueron liberados este miércoles mediante el pago de una fianza. Esto, de acuerdo a fuentes
extraoficiales, que señalaron a Agencia Fronteriza de Noticias, que los policías estadounidenses, Jorge Matos y Hermógenes Brown Llanes J. viajaban
hacia Tijuana para asistir a una fiesta familiar; sin embargo al ser inspeccionados en la línea, les fueron encontrados cartuchos y armas de fuego
en el
interior de su vehículo.
A decir de los oficiales de la Unión Americana, el armamento era de un amigo que realizaba prácticas de tiro, y que olvidó el equipo en su auto sin
que ellos se percatarán de este hecho. Por este motivo, fueron capturados, bajo cargos por el delito de portación de armas de fuego, y puestos a
disposición de las autoridades mexicanas, las cuales finalmente les otorgaron su libertad, tras la asignación de una fianza, cuyo monto no fue
revelado.
Loose translation:
Tijuana BC August 6, 2008 (AFN) .- Two agents belonging to an elite group of the San Diego police, who were arrested in San Ysidro last Friday, were
released on Wednesday after making bail. This, according to unofficial sources, who told Agencia Fronteriza de Noticias News Agency that U.S. police,
Jorge Matos and Hermógenes Llanes J. Brown traveled to Tijuana to attend a family party. When they were inspected they found cartridges and firearms
in the vehicle. It was revealed that a friend of the two officers owned the items found in the vehicle which the friend used for target shooting and
just forgot the items were in his car. The two officers were not aware the items were in the vehicle. They were arrested and charged with carrying
firearms by Mexican authorities. They were later given their freedom after posting bond.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jdtrotter
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
The only reason these guys were caught is because they got the random "revision" red light entering Mexico. Tough luck. If Mexico would inspect every
car entering (as we do) gun smugglers would have to use the more risky drug/human smuggling routes and not just drive them into Mexico.
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The oflicers found two handguns and "well over 5,000 rounds of ammo" in the vehicle, one official said. A later estimate put the ammunition at 6,000
rounds, Mack said.
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Yes, lots of ammo, but IMHO, two handguns does not make them smugglers, it just makes them really stupid.
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Another article said they had "training materials" with them. Maybe they were just coing down to Mexico to make a hit. 6,000 casings at a crime
scene seeems about right these days.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalou
If the agent doesn't like the way you look, you will get inspected. |
I knew a border inspector that would have beautiful girls get out of the car and have them open the trunk and hood, specialy the ones with short
skirts 
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Bajajack
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There isnt a cop in
California that doesn't know what the firearms laws are in mexico.
These guys were bringing in 6000 rounds of ammo for who knows what or who, it was not an honest mistake as they claim the ammo belonged to a friend,
BS.
They were counting on not being inspected and just got caught!
\"take what you can, give nothing back!\"
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American people.\'
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajajack
California that doesn't know what the firearms laws are in mexico.
These guys were bringing in 6000 rounds of ammo for who knows what or who, it was not an honest mistake as they claim the ammo belonged to a friend,
BS.
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You got that right ....
This was smuggling in ammo for the cartels ....
Unless they were really, really bad shots....
They should rot in a Mexican prison.....
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You can be assured of two things.
1. These two officers will be undergoing intensive investigations both local and federal and will be subjected to a detailed polygraph examination.
2. If they are found to be involved in criminal activity they will be tried in a court of law and if convicted they will go to prison.
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LMFAO
| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
You can be assured of two things.
1. These two officers will be undergoing intensive investigations both local and federal and will be subjected to a detailed polygraph examination.
2. If they are found to be involved in criminal activity they will be tried in a court of law and if convicted they will go to prison.
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That's a joke, right???
\"take what you can, give nothing back!\"
We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the
American people.\'
Theodore Roosevelt 1907
We can have no \"50-50\" allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all.
Theodore Roosevelt
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ELINVESTIG8R
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Just wait and see!
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QUE GUEYS!!!!! I know police officers have common sense, you got to be kidding right?
READY SET.....................
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aha baja
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajajack
| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
You can be assured of two things.
1. These two officers will be undergoing intensive investigations both local and federal and will be subjected to a detailed polygraph examination.
2. If they are found to be involved in criminal activity they will be tried in a court of law and if convicted they will go to prison.
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Which country.... Given bail I think it would be a good idea to go back home and STAY |
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These two officers are in so much trouble here in the US. It will not be swept under the carpet.
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Yes, I have already written
the headline for them. After a thorough investigation it has been decided that the Orficers involved made an honest mistake and all is forgiven!
\"take what you can, give nothing back!\"
We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the
American people.\'
Theodore Roosevelt 1907
We can have no \"50-50\" allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all.
Theodore Roosevelt
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Does anyone know the going rate for a properly obtained 45 automatic? My frined and I were talking to a police officer
in one of the smaller towns in baja. We were asking him about his duties and the types of crimes he sees. The talk then went on to the subject of how
much various weapons cost. I do not know how true this statement is but he said that to properly obtain a pistol would cost a few thousand
dollars. My friend who has been through a few riots always
has a few thousand rounds in the trunk. Even his peers think that's overkill so to speak.
If the pricing is true one could make it quite a profitable weekend on just two little guns and enough ammo for a
small south of the boarder shootout. Smuggling? You bet.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vacaenbaja
If the pricing is true one could make it quite a profitable weekend on just two little guns and enough ammo for a
small south of the boarder shootout. Smuggling? You bet. |
I like to pretend that all cops are honest and wouldn't do anything like that.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by vacaenbaja
If the pricing is true one could make it quite a profitable weekend on just two little guns and enough ammo for a
small south of the boarder shootout. Smuggling? You bet. |
I like to pretend that all cops are honest and wouldn't do anything like that. |
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Mexico has a very f***ed up
system regarding arms and ammo. There are no regular stores where they are available except through government channels.
If obtained legally a pistol can run 2-3 thousand and ammo if obtained through legal channels is a real PITA to get.
That's why everyone including the cops buy theirs on the street.
At the lastest count in 2007 there was something like 3500 private legally registered firearms in all of mexico.
\"take what you can, give nothing back!\"
We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the
American people.\'
Theodore Roosevelt 1907
We can have no \"50-50\" allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all.
Theodore Roosevelt
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