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[*] posted on 8-10-2008 at 11:37 AM
Mini- Split Air Conditioning


The owners of my casa are considering putting in a mini-split in the bedroom, or maybe more depending on the price.

I saw an add in the GG about mini-splits for 5K pesos with installation included (with conditions?) at Home Depot.

Could you possibly provide comments about these things.

And do you know of prices and installation in the Todos Santos area ?

I need to come up with information to pass along to the owners and I am starting from a zero knowledge base.

You input is requested .

I live in a concrete block casa and would like to get some sleep at night.

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[*] posted on 8-10-2008 at 11:47 AM


Ron, it might be cheaper if you stop at a local farmacia and pick up a bottle of HEMITARTRATE ZOLPIDEM, 10mg. and take one 15 minutes before bed time.
The best night's sleep you'll have since you were a baby.




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[*] posted on 8-10-2008 at 12:43 PM


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Ron, it might be cheaper if you stop at a local farmacia and pick up a bottle of HEMITARTRATE ZOLPIDEM, 10mg. and take one 15 minutes before bed time.
The best night's sleep you'll have since you were a baby.


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Is this anything like Anthrax.:?::P:biggrin:




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[*] posted on 8-10-2008 at 01:06 PM


Ron,
Google for information and you will get tons of it.
Only advice I can give you, is to make sure you get ample tonnage, otherwise you will think that you/or your landlord waisted your money. An A/C man in Sacramento once advised me to get 1 ton of air for every 500 cubic feet of space. Sounded excessive at the time, but have found out since, that it's right on the button. Especially with the humidity here. I have 4 ton in my living quarters and 3 ton in my bedroom ( trane splits ) and can tell you that it's all needed during our summers. And don't forget that you likely will have to run 220 electricity. Maybe a 2 ton wall unit should do the trick.:?::?: Lot cheaper, but lots noisier.

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Ron, it might be cheaper if you stop at a local farmacia and pick up a bottle of HEMITARTRATE ZOLPIDEM, 10mg. and take one 15 minutes before bed time.
The best night's sleep you'll have since you were a baby.


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Is this anything like Anthrax.:?::P:biggrin:

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[*] posted on 8-10-2008 at 01:17 PM


Udo, How do you manage to get your reply into a quote box :?:
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[*] posted on 8-10-2008 at 01:26 PM


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Udo, How do you manage to get your reply into a quote box :?:
Is there a trick to that. :biggrin::biggrin:


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[*] posted on 8-10-2008 at 02:10 PM


I remodeled my condo last year and had the contractor put in 3 Trane mini splits - one for each bedroom and one for the living area. I don't know what size they are, but they work terrific! The specs are all in Spanish and I think the size is in metric units. I do know that the two in the bedrooms are smaller than the one in the living/dining/ kitchen area. I don't know what they cost, it was all part of a larger contract.

Would I do it again? You betcha! We use the one in the living area by day, and the one in the master bedroom at night. Very economical. They have built in swinging louvers that sling cold air all over the room. Sometimes (seldom) they will drip water on the floor from condensation when it is particularly humid - like yesterday, but I think it is because they are not quite adjusted properly. You will need 220.

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[*] posted on 8-10-2008 at 05:12 PM


Morgaine, my guess is I have one tons in the bedrooms and a two ton in the living area. I think the price of 24K pesos sounds about right with installation and running 220.

BTW, the Tranes are almost completely silent. They come with handheld remotes for operation. You can run them in "fan only" mode too. The guy who installed ours was a subcontractor from San Lucas.
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Morgaine and oxxo,
I also purchased my Trane units from Francisco Loubett, the dealer on Constitution in La Paz. Have known him for many years. Competitive and reliable. Had them installed here in Loreto about 2 years ago by a local ( very good ) contractor. Oxxo, you stated that your unit ( the diffuser inside ) produces no condensation unless it's very humid? You mean the diffusers are not supplied with condensation lines to the outside? My living quarter diffusers, 2 one ton and 1 two ton, produce roughly 6 gallons of water from 4 pm till 10 pm daily. Would hate to have that run down my tile floor.:biggrin:




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[*] posted on 8-11-2008 at 07:20 AM
Thank You


Appreciate the dealer and price information.

Looking forward to cool evenings



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[*] posted on 8-11-2008 at 07:47 AM


We have three Mitsubishi units(2 over 8 years old) and two Trane.
The Mitsubishi are much quieter than the Trane.
We have them serviced every year before it gets too hot.
Ron...clean the filters about once a month.




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[*] posted on 8-11-2008 at 08:49 AM


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We have three Mitsubishi units(2 over 8 years old) and two Trane.
The Mitsubishi are much quieter than the Trane.
We have them serviced every year before it gets too hot.
Ron...clean the filters about once a month.


That is good news, as the agent said he is looking at a Mitsubishi unit .

Can only cross my fingers now and hope it is approved.

Am I mistaken, or do multiple units share a common compressor on the roof ?

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[*] posted on 8-11-2008 at 09:06 AM


Each of my units has their own compressor
We have a 110 in our bedroom
All the rest are 220.

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[*] posted on 8-11-2008 at 09:08 AM


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Am I mistaken, or do multiple units share a common compressor on the roof ?

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Mistaken,
It can come in one unit (casing), but each diffuser has its own compressor.
And they can be anywhere and are better off in a shady area.
Also important to keep the run from the compresor to the blower as short as possible.

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That is good news, as the agent said he is looking at a Mitsubishi unit .

Can only cross my fingers now and hope it is approved.

Am I mistaken, or do multiple units share a common compressor on the roof ?

CaboRon


It depends on the manufacturer and the configuration you choose. Some of them have many options. We researched this a lot when we built. Ended up going with LG and are very pleased, they are quiet, have lots of different settings and can cool down a bedroom that has been sealed up all day in a heartbeat! As others have stated, don't short yourself on the tonnage, unit works more efficiently. We have a couple of splits sharing the same compressor and the master bedroom is on its own compressor.

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[*] posted on 8-11-2008 at 09:13 AM


Mitsubishis are supposed to be the Cadillacs of the mini splits. I have never heard one operate, but I can't imagine anything being more quiet than our Tranes. Ours are almost silent, although I admit I'm deaf in my right ear. Say What?! Judy, who services your units for you?

You do want to get a unit with a high SEER number - like 18. They are more efficient and less expensive to operate, although a bit more expensive upfront. I believe the promotional units at San Lucas Home Depot are low SEER, promotional units, but not sure.

With regards to condensation, we do have lines running to the exterior. It is just that a couple of times over the last year, we have had a quart of water or so, drip onto the tile floor over a two or three hour period. It hasn't been enough of a bother to call the service man out. It happened last Friday, but hasn't happened since. It happened just once last summer.

But hey, not to worry, life is good in Baja!
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[*] posted on 8-11-2008 at 09:18 AM
"off the grid" Air Conditioning


Question to those with mini-splits.

If any are "off the grid", how big a generator are you using?

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[*] posted on 8-31-2008 at 10:11 PM
Everyone-- Thanks for the Thread


You've helped give me clarity as to what I need to keep a Casa Cool.

A mini-split or even two will be the finish to my river house when we complete the cleanup from Julio. The diffuser'll be placed high on the wall near ceiling ('way above the water marks) with compressor on a small platform suspended from the eves of the roof outside in shade. If we get a second unit, the compressor would be in the attic.

Questions: What is a SEER number and where is it displayed, along with the unit specs? Why keep the run from the compressor to the diffuser as short as possible as they come with 15' hoses? Why is shade for the compressor better?

Thanks Everyone! We're still smiling:spingrin:
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SEER

SEER (seasonal energy efficiency ratio) measures how efficiently a residential central cooling system (air conditioner or heat pump) will operate over an entire cooling season, as opposed to a single outdoor temperature. As with EER, a higher SEER reflects a more efficient cooling system. SEER is calculated based on the total amount of cooling (in Btu) the system will provide over the entire season divided by the total number of watt-hours it will consume:

seasonal Btu of cooling
___________________ =SEER
seasonal watt-hours used

By federal law, every central split cooling system manufactured in the U.S. today must have a seasonal energy efficiency ratio of at least 13.0.

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