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JaraHurd
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The Drive: GN to San Ignacio..?
Has anyone driven this stretch lately? I am driving from San Diego to San Juan Del Cabo during a 14 day trip. This one stretch concerns me as I had an
experience last year that was a little unsettling. Would appreciate feedback either way! Anything I should know?? Jon
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Lee
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Buy your ticket take your chances
| Quote: | Originally posted by JaraHurd
Has anyone driven this stretch lately? I am driving from San Diego to San Juan Del Cabo during a 14 day trip. This one stretch concerns me as I had an
experience last year that was a little unsettling. Would appreciate feedback either way! Anything I should know?? Jon |
Your concern is normal and healthy. This is a very bad patch of road. High winds, cattle, vehicles crossing over into on coming traffic.
Go slow, and watch on coming traffic. Stay off the center line. (No I haven't driven it recently. I just know what to do.)
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I drive this stretch of road about 8 times year. I am not sure what you or Lee are referring to, but I think it is a piece of cake. I drove it
recently, or more correctly, my wife drove it while I slept in the passenger seat.
What am I missing? Are you the guy who threw the coke bottles out of your window at the guy in the pickup truck with machetes?
[Edited on 8-13-2008 by oxxo]
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I just got back from driving and the roads fine. They even built a new bridge to eliminate the really bad cutback just west of San Ignacio.
Just watch out for the cows on jenny craig that like to scamper out into the road to commit suicide.
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rpleger
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It was OK in March 2008...very fast in fact...
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Don Alley
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We drove it about two weeks ago and didn't see any problems. I believe it is the stretch that was being resurfaced, but I'm not sure.
I think the long, straight stretch south of GN may be deceptively easy, it seems to encourage higher speed but it's still narrow and I've heard
roll-overs happen here from cars that stray off the edge at high speed.
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Lee
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Now I'm confused
| Quote: | Originally posted by Don Alley
We drove it about two weeks ago and didn't see any problems. |
I've driven it good and bad. Luck of the draw. Guess you'd have to drive it bad to know. Guess I'm not the only one -- if that's what is
being referred to here.
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JaraHurd, it is a long straight, flat road... so easy you will drift off to sleep for it is one of the more dull sections of Hwy. 1 after the
Magdalena Plain (Insurgentes to Santa Rita)... That's my opinion, naturally...
Because it is so easy and dull, it must be the reason for the number of accidents as truckers and others drift off their lane and into yours or off
the narrow roadbed.
The speed limit is a rediculous 80 KPH (50 MPH), and there are 2 FEDERALALES (Hwy. Patrol) that patrol the road between Guerrero Negro and Vizcaino
and hand out tickets all day!
We saw them both times last year in the area near the EL ARCO junction...
[Edited on 8-13-2008 by David K]
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JaraHurd
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Awesome feedback. I drove it last May with a buddy who was not comfortable driving down to Mulege. We came upon some law enforcement action that was
probably just bad timing. Since my buddy was (is) involved in undercover work in the STates....it made him a little uncomfortable..mostly because we
were not armed. But I am sure it was legit. Just a little uncomfortable for a person who was already a little uncomfortable. That stretch is LONG and
lonely. ....once again..thanx for the feedback.
And, yes, I did read that Coke Bottle post on the other website..I am NOT that person! ! But that thread did make me chuckle...although I could see
how such an event like that could happen....although maybe not exactly that way! Ok ..Ok..i don't want that bit to reflash...... Jon
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I drove it Aug 07, I like to find a fast driver and stay about 80 yards, let him get the tickets and keep the trucks in their lane, we averaged about
90 mph and made that crapy run in about 1 hr. really saved me some time I made it from Loreto to SQ by dusk.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
I've driven it good and bad. Luck of the draw. Guess you'd have to drive it bad to know.
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Lee, what are you referring to? The road surface was bad? What?
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I've done that stretch plenty of times...at least to Vizcaino. No worries just don't drive too fast. While I have seen Federales on that stretch
before they are not always there handing out tickets. More often than not they are cleaning up an accident.
Zac
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JaraHurdWe came upon some law enforcement action that was probably just bad timing.
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What "law enforcement action"? You mean the military checkpoint? Enquiring minds want to know.
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JaraHurd
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Got it BB..and I agree. I am more the get there alive in one piece sort than getting there fast. I will get there when I get there. Lee..curious what
you are referring to....
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JaraHurd
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Ok....as we came to the top of a hill..We saw several unmarked vehicles..I have to assume police cars parked on the right side (west side??) of the
road. There was a handcuffed man being followed by several armed (their weapons were holstered, one person was armed with a shotgun) what I assumed
were police officers/detectives. The handcuffed man did not appear in distress but was being led away from the roadway as if showing the group
something.
A hundred feet or so in back of them were two armed men in jeans sweeping what I believe to be a metal detector across the ground in the hills. I did
not look anyone in the eye and kept driving. They seemed relaxed and not annoyed or nervous at our presence....but we were the only vehicle for miles.
I was nervous and kept looking in my rear view mirrow. That was it. When we came to San Ignacio I started to relax. The rest of the trip (a four day
stay in Mulege) was a blast...Plenty of fish (dorado) and the Hotel Serenidad was fun as well..except when they ran out of water briefly just as I
returned to the hotel after a day of fishing...Jon
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Jon, why would that incident be threatening to you or make you feel unsafe? Sounds like the Federales just doing their job. I see something similar
to that almost everyday I'm on the southern California freeways. Honestly, should that have happened to me, it would make me feel more safe knowing
that the police are doing their job.
I don't know, I guess it is just a matter of perception. Anyway, I have no problem with driving that section of road.
Better trip next time.
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JaraHurd
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Hmmm. I have lived in LA County for the past 20 years and I very rarely come upon anything like that during my off time. I do not have a lot of
confidence in Mexican law enforcement and to see that way out on an otherwise deserted highway in the middle of nowhere (we saw almost no vehicular
traffic..it was noon-ish..) was a bit unnerving. We were both a little paranoid to begin with. ..BUT..as you say...it looked legit and no one really
cared that we saw it. It just looked a little strange.
Trust me..you do NOT see anything similar to this at all on an almost daily basis on southern California freeways unless it is on TV. I work in the
worst part of southern California and I rarely see such a scene..like I said..during my off-time.
My trip to Mulege in May of 2007 was a good trip. But Mexican law enforcement gets a lot of bad publicity...some deserving, I am sure some not. But I
feel a lot safer traveling with a little security by my side..and I can't do that in Mexico. No biggie..just clarifying a point. The police or
Federales or whoever they were did nothing wrong or inappropriate. I would simply prefer not to see guns or weapons or anything like that in the
middle of the desert...
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Jon, as I said, I drive that road several times a year, as many as 8 times. There is rarely any traffic out there. Light traffic is not unusual. We
do keerp an eye on the rear view mirror for anyone coming up fast behind us, which happens, but never any problems.
In your situation, I would have become very nervous had I seen just one car alongside the road with 3 plainclothes guys with guns drawn and a fourth
guy with handcuffs and blindfold. I would be reaching for my mexican cel phone, looking for a signal, trying to contact Shari, a Nomad who lives in
that area.
If you are California law enforcement, I'd like to thank you for the job you do.
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Fearing fear
| Quote: | Originally posted by JaraHurd
I was nervous and kept looking in my rear view mirrow. That was it. When we came to San Ignacio I started to relax. |
Little nervous is normal, but the level of anxiety displayed seems excessive considering ''reality.'' My perception is there is nothing to fear
from anyone with a badge -- unless you think these are bandidos. You need to read the situation before stopping and handing over your license
(don't recommend surrendering a license). Just my opinion, I think most MX cops are honest and decent. I know there are bad and corrupt cops
out there -- I just haven't met any. So, my perspective is I haven't broken a law, I am guilty of nothing, and, the cop is my Brother.
Nothing to fear or be nervous about. Si?
| Quote: | Originally posted by oxxo
Jon, as I said, I drive that road several times a year, as many as 8 times. There is rarely any traffic out there. |
I'm referring to accidents I've witnessed (shari would know) and potential accidents (ever see a close call?) Anyone driving 90mph on that road is
an accident waiting to happen. (THink I'm reacting to the ''horrendous'' accidents I've witnessed on CA highways as a law enforcement officer.
Do treacherous cross-winds count? But, it's also been peaceful and boring. So, I recommend keeping your eyes open and going SLOW. But that's
how I drive.
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I just wanted to strongly reccommend the San Igancio Springs Bed and Breakfast .....
You will never forget your stay there and the awesome breakfast and dinners.
http://www.mexonline.com/ignaciosprings.htm
Have a great trip,
CaboRon
[Edited on 8-13-2008 by CaboRon]
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