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Nearly 130 prosecutors, cops dismissed in Baja
(Full Article Here)
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August 28, 2008
Top Baja California law enforcement officials yesterday announced the dismissal of 129 police officers, investigators, prosecutors and other members
of law enforcement agencies across the state.
Those fired include 90 municipal police officers, 66 of them from Tijuana; 34 employees of the Baja California Attorney General's Office, including 17
investigators; four members of the Baja California state preventive police; and one state prison custodian.
The dismissals were made for a range of reasons, from administrative infractions to accusations of torture, falsification of documents and crimes
against the administration of justice, said Rommel Moreno Manjarrez, Baja California's attorney general. The dismissals included two state agents
behind bars, one accused of rape, the other of homicide.
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teadust,
Souonds like good progressive news...
Your heading is a little confusing in reference to "Baja" as it appears that this action has been taken only in Baja California. Am I wrong or does
it also include Baja California Sur ?
CAboRon
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The original article has no reference to BCS.
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I hope the two TJ cops, that I paid mordita to, got fired.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
teadust,
Souonds like good progressive news...
Your heading is a little confusing in reference to "Baja" as it appears that this action has been taken only in Baja California. Am I wrong or does
it also include Baja California Sur ?
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I believe the reference to "Baja California" means the state of Baja California.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Martyman
I hope the two TJ cops, that I paid mordita to, got fired. |
That's interesting. IMHO, the days of police Morditas are looking like the "good ole days" for Mexico... these firings are for serious crimes against
the people and system that threatens the stability of Mexico herself. I'm more worried the cop that pulls me over wil be an imposter out to do me
serious harm- getting away from one for $20 would be a godsend. When this whole wave of narco-crime started in Baja Norte a few years ago- it was hard
for people to understand just how serious and bad it is.
It'll be years before they get back to the point of firing cops for the "morditas". If that's all they are doing wrong they should get a gold star.
Many are part of the narco war network that has embraced kidnaping and killing, then covering up the investigations and ultimatley funneling the cases
to corrupt prosectuors and judges who have been letting them go. That's what this is about- not $20.
It looks like they are breaking the links in the narco chain. They have their network of corrupt cops, investigators, prosecutors and judges--- now
they have a handful less. Hundreds more to go.
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Martyman
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So Woooosh;
You are on top of this subject. Won't the police, investigators, etc. that got fired just sign up full time with the bad guy cartels? Too bad they
can't charge them and put them in jail for a while to think about their wayward ways.
ps It wasn't $20 it was $42 and $60.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Martyman
So Woooosh;
You are on top of this subject. Won't the police, investigators, etc. that got fired just sign up full time with the bad guy cartels? Too bad they
can't charge them and put them in jail for a while to think about their wayward ways.
ps It wasn't $20 it was $42 and $60. |
Inflation I guess- or you did something really dumb.
Yes, the fired corrupt likely turn to their friends and become full-time narcos- purely out of need for income at that point. It isn't like they're
going to become front desk clerks in a tourist hotel and there isn't a supply of willing, educated people standing by to fill any of those jobs (they
bailed out to the USA).
Recently they were training replacement officers in Mexico City- but the cartels were assisinating them on their way home from the academy (the
trainees weren't allowed to carry arms to defend themselves). Jailing gang members only allows them to sharpen their gang ties and skills for when
they are released.
Americans aren't the targets right now- but the narcos don't care who gets caught in their crosshairs when a battle erupts. The best thing we can do
is to stay safe, protect oursleves the best we can, and stay out of their way.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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If you click on the link to the original story, you will find that those let go are being identified by visits to their homes, and postings nationwide
to help keep them out of employment where they can continue their bad ways.
Might take a grain of salt, but at least something is being done!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by losfrailes
If you click on the link to the original story, you will find that those let go are being identified by visits to their homes, and postings nationwide
to help keep them out of employment where they can continue their bad ways.
Might take a grain of salt, but at least something is being done! |
Just what do the Mexican officials think these fired guys will do for work to feed their families? You think they'll take a job at WalMart where they
are paid $85 for five and a half days work? I'm sure they'll be working in some meat packing plant in Iowa soon. More likely they'll move to the USA
and become a narco killer on the USA side- a growing trend.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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No, it IS about mordida...
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
It'll be years before they get back to the point of firing cops for the "morditas". If that's all they are doing wrong they should get a gold star.
Many are part of the narco war network that has embraced kidnaping and killing, then covering up the investigations and ultimatley funneling the cases
to corrupt prosectuors and judges who have been letting them go. That's what this is about- not $20.
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and the culture that tolerates it. The billion dollar drug dealers started their careers stealing lunch money.
The cop who takes $20 is just as corrupt as the one who takes millions.
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Dave: Is it not the Demand from all of the Users in the States that cause the Whole Show??
Being an Ole Timer that lived in The States before there was any great use of DOPE other than Booze, I sometimes wonder:
What is the REAL SOLUTION to this very bad Problem??
Any Suggestions, comments on How we may solve this Problem??
Skeet/Loreto "Ole Timer"
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
It'll be years before they get back to the point of firing cops for the "morditas". If that's all they are doing wrong they should get a gold star.
Many are part of the narco war network that has embraced kidnaping and killing, then covering up the investigations and ultimatley funneling the cases
to corrupt prosectuors and judges who have been letting them go. That's what this is about- not $20.
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and the culture that tolerates it. The billion dollar drug dealers started their careers stealing lunch money.
The cop who takes $20 is just as corrupt as the one who takes millions. |
I agree, I do not think you can trust any of these cops.
How many have been fired over the last year in this region?
If you can not trust any of the police in Mexico and now it turns out the people in the ministerial publicos are twisted as well.. We are very close
to losing this area of Mexico.
The advice I am about to give you is worth what you are paying for it.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Dave: Is it not the Demand from all of the Users in the States that cause the Whole Show??
Being an Ole Timer that lived in The States before there was any great use of DOPE other than Booze, I sometimes wonder:
What is the REAL SOLUTION to this very bad Problem??
Any Suggestions, comments on How we may solve this Problem??
Skeet/Loreto "Ole Timer" |
The "USA drug demand" argrument has merit- so does the argument that Mexico intentionally does nothing on the border to stop the supply of drugs.
Contrand flows from where it is imported/produced to where the buyers are. Drugs are made in Mexico and delivered to users in the USA, Guns are made
in the USA and delivered to buyers in Mexico.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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No argument here...but
| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Dave: Is it not the Demand from all of the Users in the States that cause the Whole Show??
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I'm talking about crooked cops. It's not drug money that corrupts. It's lack of morals.
Besides, I could care less about U.S. drug users. They can rot in hell.
[Edited on 8-28-2008 by Dave]
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I wonder what they will do now? I'm sure we will read about it soon enough.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Dave: Is it not the Demand from all of the Users in the States that cause the Whole Show??
Being an Ole Timer that lived in The States before there was any great use of DOPE other than Booze, I sometimes wonder:
What is the REAL SOLUTION to this very bad Problem??
Any Suggestions, comments on How we may solve this Problem??
Skeet/Loreto "Ole Timer" |
The "USA drug demand" argrument has merit- so does the argument that Mexico intentionally does nothing on the border to stop the supply of drugs.
Contrand flows from where it is imported/produced to where the buyers are. Drugs are made in Mexico and delivered to users in the USA, Guns are made
in the USA and delivered to buyers in Mexico. |
Mexican narcos aren't simply filling a need in a market - they are also involved in expanding the market - that is increasing drug use in the US -
especially among latino youth.
The problem with the US is that it has wealth - and wealth attracts unscruplous business.
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Those poor kids
| Quote: | Originally posted by Eugenio
Mexican narcos aren't simply filling a need in a market - they are also involved in expanding the market - that is increasing drug use in the US -
especially among latino youth.
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The evil narcos tie them down and force them to shoot up.
Using drugs is a choice.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
teadust,
Souonds like good progressive news...
Your heading is a little confusing in reference to "Baja" as it appears that this action has been taken only in Baja California. Am I wrong or does
it also include Baja California Sur ?
CAboRon |
I apologize; it does sound like it was only in BCN, not including BCS. I'll be more diligent about posting things related to BCS here! Still, I
thought the scale of it was newsworthy as was the stated plan of monitoring those given the axe to somehow prevent them from being involved with
organized crime later. Although what kind of jobs they WILL take is certainly up for speculation...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by Eugenio
Mexican narcos aren't simply filling a need in a market - they are also involved in expanding the market - that is increasing drug use in the US -
especially among latino youth.
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The evil narcos tie them down and force them to shoot up.
Using drugs is a choice. |
Macdonald's/Burger King/Nintendo don't tie anyone down either - but they still do a L of job of marketing. In fact I'd submit that marketing dope to
a disenfranchised 12 year old would be easier than selling him a burger - drugs are cool and will make him the tough guy on he block - gets you
attention from the muchachas - oh yeah.
On the other hand maybe you're right Dave - maybe the narcos are careful to only fulfill a prexisting need - after all - they have the well-being
american youth foremost in their minds...
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