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bajabombero
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Immigration/FM3
Has anyone heard about immigration being able to track FM3/FM2 holders who are using FMTs to enter Mexico?
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DENNIS
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Well, they do have computers. Why would you want to do that?
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabombero
Has anyone heard about immigration being able to track FM3/FM2 holders who are using FMTs to enter Mexico? |
Yes, Mexican Immigration can now track Visa abusers with their data base.
CaboRon
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slimshady
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How are people abusing their FM3's?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Well, they do have computers. Why would you want to do that? |
My wife and I had our FM3's sent off for renewal and hers was the only one to be returned. Armando Riley (doing the renewal for us) in Los Barriles
was told that Interpole was looking for someone with a similar name as mine and as soon as it was cleared up my FM3 would be returned. In the interim,
I have made 2 trips down and got an FMT at the border so that I would have something to show if I was asked. When I told Armando what I had done he
told me I could get in a lot of trouble for doing that as I now had resident status and was no longer a tourist. Dennis Riley has posted a few
articles on the Baja Pony Express web site on this issue and apparently one of his clients was caught and cited at the Cabo airport for having both an
FM3 and FMT. He indicated that he would post the outcome of the case.
As it stands right now, I was told that I had to go to the Immigration office in La Paz to sign some paper and I could get my FM3 back. I asked
Armando how I could legally get back into Mexico without my FM3. He is going to La Paz today and said he would find out. Armando and Dennis have been
very helpfull but having to deal with Mexican Immigration can be a challenge no matter who you are or who you know. I am planning on returning to Baja
the middle of October, I hope I have a resolution by then...dt
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by dtbushpilot
I am planning on returning to Baja the middle of October, I hope I have a resolution by then...dt |
There's alway$ a way.
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dtbushpilot
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by dtbushpilot
I am planning on returning to Baja the middle of October, I hope I have a resolution by then...dt |
There's alway$ a way. |
Plea$e tell me more, who do I need to $ee about thi$...dt
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Bob and Susan
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when you renewed you SHOULD have gotten a letter from Immigration office that you could leave and return while you didn't have the "book"
it costs about $20
then you are legal
as soon as the Immigration office told you you wouldn't be getting the "book" back they would have issued the letter for you to stay legal
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by dtbushpilot
Plea$e tell me more, who do I need to $ee about thi$...dt |
It's a delicate matter. Maybe ask Armando Riley.
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Cajones
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If you have an FM2 you are only allowed to be out of the country a limited time, or else you lose the FM2 status. They will cross-check with an FMT to
see if you are "cheating" the system by leaving and coming back on an FMT.
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Bob and Susan
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i just got an fmt for my daughter at tj yesterday
they have a new form and receipt from the bank
the teller puts in alot of info
maybe they use this data to cross check
before there was NO WAY to cross check
the searchers would have to go thru a "ton" of papers
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
when you renewed you SHOULD have gotten a letter from Immigration office that you could leave and return while you didn't have the "book"
it costs about $20
then you are legal
as soon as the Immigration office told you you wouldn't be getting the "book" back they would have issued the letter for you to stay legal
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As Bob and Susan said, a permiso to leave and reenter the country is what you should have obtained...did you tell the person that was handling your
renewal, or the immigration office that you needed to leave? It's a simple matter, and the only dollars that I have ever had to pay when my FM3 was
in the hands of immigration in Loreto and not in mine...initial fm3...doing a change of address...and now for renewal is MN$260 for the permiso.
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dtbushpilot
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Bob and Susan, thanks for the info. This was my first renewal so I'm still learning the ropes. Armando did mention a letter that I could get but I
didn't follow up because I would have had to go to La Paz and I was hopelessly stuck on Baja time and figured that I would just get a FMT in the
interim...before I found out that I wasn't supposed to. My plight is no ones fault but my own for being lazy. Perhaps Armando can get it for me and
send it DHL to me before I leave.
I will post my solution when I have one.
Thanks again to all....dt
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The permiso in progress stamped form is fine for leaving and returning. Having two visas is a problem that can be resolved by deportation and denial
of return. There is no reason not to visit the inm and ask for a form to identify your folio in progress to travel while any problems are resolved.
Its not a problem--just time consuming.
[Edited on 9-17-2008 by gnukid]
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bajabombero
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I have had my FM3 for nine yrs. In the past the letter to leave and return was only good for 30 days and 45 if you asked for more. If you needed
more than that tough luck.
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DENNIS
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What in the world are you people doing to yourselves? Go just a bit beyond the rules that nobody here can verify and live your lives. Why do you
think you have to report anything to anybody just because you want to go back and forth from the US to Mexico!! It won't matter to anybody if you
don't.
You have your paperwork in order so why do you beg for problems? You're the ones that cause mordida and eccess paperwork.
Look...It's simple. Quit trying to micro-manage compliance. Just live your lives without creating a need for somebody to get into your wallet.
You don't go through gates between Cabo and TJ that check your "coming-and-going" activities. Why do you want to create a need for this?
You're all nuts. This is Baja. Show some sense of adventure instead of the lemming response you seem to adhere to.
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CaboRon
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With all due respect Dennis,
Driveing and Flying are two different burros ...
When you fly in and or out everything is entered in the computer.
CaboRon
Now: my question is, when can you go back to an FMT ..
I am thinking of letting my FM3 expire and just useing
the FMT process .... I don't own a house, just am a
renter .... and I am beginning to question why I jump
thru hoops for this FM3 .... I never plan on seeking
citizenship .... and just don't see what the great
need is for a formal visa. I have met many people
down here who have NO paperwork and seem to
get by just fine.
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DENNIS
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Sorry Ron. I can't think about what's right or wrong without the US/MEX equation. I'm all for equity.
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Sorry Ron. I can't think about what's right or wrong without the US/MEX equation. I'm all for equity. |
What is the "US/MEX equation" , I am not understanding the sentance.
Thanks,
CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Sorry Ron. I can't think about what's right or wrong without the US/MEX equation. I'm all for equity. |
YES!
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