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David K
Honored Nomad
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Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
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Care to give Baja Nomad a little something?
Nomads... the mailing address if anyone would wish to give a gratuity (tip) to Baja Nomad to help him keep this site on the Internet... if you find
the inforamation to be valuable... a little reward for his efforts... it is right here: http://www.bajanomad.com/contact.htm
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fishbuck
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Registered: 8-31-2006
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How about we ( meaning you) organize a fundraising party!
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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Diver
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 4729
Registered: 11-15-2004
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Curious;
Does Doug need/want the funds ?
Or is this just a thought of yours, DK ?
But a fundraising party sounds good - go for it !
And post pictures ! 
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BajaNuts
Super Nomad
Posts: 1085
Registered: 5-11-2008
Location: eastern WA, the DRY side
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Mood: no worry, no hurry....it's all good!
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I'm wondering if the tienda will be restocked at any time in the future, especially the shirts. I'd love to get one, only been a member since May
'08. I'd also like to get a 2009 calender (or 3), but I understand it's hard to sell calenders cuz if you don't sell them.....what do ya do with the
leftovers???
I also have experience with etched glassware.....like.........cerveza mugs or margharita glasses?!?!?!?! I can design and facilitate production of
glassware for Tienda BN if there is any interest?
BajaNutsAnn
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shari
Select Nomad
Posts: 13043
Registered: 3-10-2006
Location: bahia asuncion, baja sur
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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I like the idea of creative fundraising and I would be happy to help baja nomads remain on-line...what about something like a silent auction where
people who either make things, have something to donate, or provide a service could contribute items to be auctioned.....maybe through this site....or
at the fundraising party or both....I know lots of us are artists and have something to contribute...maybe make it an annual event...or how bout a
fishing tournament?
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Bajaboy
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 4375
Registered: 10-9-2003
Location: Bahia Asuncion, BCS, Mexico
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I think this is a great idea. How about we do it in Asuncion the first or second week of November?
| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
I like the idea of creative fundraising and I would be happy to help baja nomads remain on-line...what about something like a silent auction where
people who either make things, have something to donate, or provide a service could contribute items to be auctioned.....maybe through this site....or
at the fundraising party or both....I know lots of us are artists and have something to contribute...maybe make it an annual event...or how bout a
fishing tournament? |
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BajaNuts
Super Nomad
Posts: 1085
Registered: 5-11-2008
Location: eastern WA, the DRY side
Member Is Offline
Mood: no worry, no hurry....it's all good!
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I'm willing to contrubute to the longterm financial viability of the website, ....and I stand by my offer for glassware, but I'm still not sure if
financial support is desired or required.
As a junior, I'm not up on all the ins-and-outs of the forum, but I'd like to know if we're getting all excited for nothing.
Does this have anything to do with recent posts about yearly subscription fees?
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Hook
Elite Nomad
Posts: 9009
Registered: 3-13-2004
Location: Sonora
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I have an idea...........how about persons who continually promote their Mexico related businesses on Nomads actually pay for advertising on the site?
Why expend all those man-hours organizing a fundraiser or auction and dealing with the logistics?
If you gain financial income from promoting your business on Nomads..........then take some of that money and actually pay for advertising here.
I don't think this is a radical new model I'm talking about...............
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Sharksbaja
Elite Nomad
Posts: 5814
Registered: 9-7-2004
Location: Newport, Mulege B.C.S.
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Reward? Hell, are we not the reason his forum flew? I want a kick-back.
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
Nomads\' Sunsets
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toneart
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 4901
Registered: 7-23-2006
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Mood: Skeptical
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I would be open to the idea if it were necessary. Since Hose A left I see very little support from Doug. All I have seen is discriminatory deletions
from solid contributors whereas offensive newbies' posts are allowed to stand.
I am sure he is busy because the moderator tasks have fallen back on him. But I would need to see a policy statement from him as to his philosophy
for the board going forward.
I have been left with the impression (which I can't substantiate) that Doug's philosophy runs along political biases. If this is not true, let him
refute it. I would be happy to be wrong in this respect and would publicly declare that I was wrong.
I love and support differences of opinion, but not civil rudeness in the form of attacks and name calling. I admit I am sensitive when it comes to
personal issues and what I consider unjust.
As for now, I lurk and post where I see I can contribute responsibly to Nomad's needs as requested. I have made many friends and have received many
U2Us of support during my defenses of the Mulege flood situation when my posts were rudely flamed. I have emails of those I would like to stay in
touch with. By the way, I have been surprised by the bipartisan friendships that have been extended to me. I also miss the humor and banter among
friends. I have not lost my sense of humor but am not willing to share it much anymore here. It used to be play. It used to be fun.
So, to sum it up: I would be happy to financially support the BajaNomad website because I think it is a valuable resource. However, I do have a life,
thank you, and don't really need to post here if it continues to feel hostile to me personally; hostile by non-support from Doug, and hostile from
flaming trolls.
I am being objective, polite and non-partisan, and I expect the same if I am to contribute financially.
Otherwise, I will continue as a reluctant Nomad and help where I can, unless I am banned. If that happens, well, I am not asking for it. I am not a
martyr. You all can be the judge.
Best case scenario is that I am made to feel welcome by management and will happily support this valuable Baja information exchange.
Thank you for considering my plea.
Tony
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dao45
Junior Nomad
Posts: 93
Registered: 5-21-2007
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I would be happy to donate a nice piece of silver jewelry with stones for this project
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fishbuck
Banned
Posts: 5318
Registered: 8-31-2006
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I will donate 1 nights camping on the beautifuls shores of Campo Fishbuck to the auction. Okay maybe 2 nights.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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shari
Select Nomad
Posts: 13043
Registered: 3-10-2006
Location: bahia asuncion, baja sur
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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Why expend man(woman)hours organizing something...well...cause it will be FUN....a PARTY...and we might get some nifty stuff too and help make
Nomadlandia a better place....I will also pay to advertise if that is what it takes but like the idea of friendly nomad spirit creative funding too.
Come to think of it...even thought I'd end up doing alot of dishes(as usual), it would be really fun to host a nomad party here seeing as quite a few
will be here already....we can do our own little thing for doug....but I really like the idea of auctioning off stuff Nomads make...put me down for
donating a hand carved yellowtail necklace and lobster dinner for 2!! A raffle with lots of prizes would be cool too...like we have here on Mothers
Day....every woman got a prize!
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Sharksbaja
Elite Nomad
Posts: 5814
Registered: 9-7-2004
Location: Newport, Mulege B.C.S.
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Ok then, can we at least know why David, you think this place may go away?
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
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dao45
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Hey Fish buck would that include Pacifico?
Sheri you have seen what I do.I would also be open donating a number of not so expensive items in silver with stone so everyone had a chance to win
something.Within limits of course no more than 10 or 20 pieces
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tripledigitken
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 4848
Registered: 9-27-2006
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
I have an idea...........how about persons who continually promote their Mexico related businesses on Nomads actually pay for advertising on the site?
Why expend all those man-hours organizing a fundraiser or auction and dealing with the logistics?
If you gain financial income from promoting your business on Nomads..........then take some of that money and actually pay for advertising here.
I don't think this is a radical new model I'm talking about............... |
What he said!
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Sharksbaja
Elite Nomad
Posts: 5814
Registered: 9-7-2004
Location: Newport, Mulege B.C.S.
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Are you saying we should shower Doug with silver and precious stones. No? Then are you suggesting we should buy stuff and give the earned profits or
income to Doug?
Hoo...weee! We'll I guess he's got some real loyal folks here. Something fishy about all this!
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
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fishbuck
Banned
Posts: 5318
Registered: 8-31-2006
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
I have an idea...........how about persons who continually promote their Mexico related businesses on Nomads actually pay for advertising on the site?
Why expend all those man-hours organizing a fundraiser or auction and dealing with the logistics?
If you gain financial income from promoting your business on Nomads..........then take some of that money and actually pay for advertising here.
I don't think this is a radical new model I'm talking about............... |
What he said! |
When Fishbuck Airways finally makes a peso I'd be glad to pay for all the free advertising I get. Under my current bussiness model it should only take
10-20 years to turn a profit.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 64722
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline
Mood: Have Baja Fever
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Sharksbaja
Ok then, can we at least know why David, you think this place may go away? |
Hi Corky,
Doug is human, too... and he gets a ton of grief over lack of moderation or too much moderation... really a no win scenario.
Amigos de Baja finally had enough of playing babysitter as they were spending their personal fun time moderating... When the site crashed without
warning, they elected to not fix it. Nomad, in this format, has been here since 2002 and most of the posts are still here to read from back then...
Think of it as a 'thank you'... 'a tip' for good service. This is a free service that really does cost something to have. Sure Doug makes some money
with Google ads (if you guys click on them for a quick look), the banner ad from BajaBound, and if you buy stuff from the Tienda Baja Nomad... But
that really isn't a lot considering how thousands of people use and enjoy this site... and ow much energy Doug invests here, for us.
Here is part of my reply to a u2u I recieved from a Nomad who asked if something 'bad' was happening and thought a web site didn't cost anything:
Nothing bad is going on... don't worry... It does cost money to run a site on the Internet and it takes man hours to moderate it, too... Doug makes
some money from Google when you click on the Google ads... as well as some from BajaBound.com for their banner ad. It would help if people all used
those features or bought stuff from Tienda Baja Nomad. If not, but Nomads still want to help... a donation or contribution is appreciated... Think of
it as a thank you to Doug for keeping this great site on line for so many of us to enjoy 24/7!
David
To donate/ contribute/ tip: http://www.bajanomad.com/contact.htm
(PS since I know it will get asked, the answer is yes... I have donated to the site)
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Hook
Elite Nomad
Posts: 9009
Registered: 3-13-2004
Location: Sonora
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Mood: Inquisitive
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I'm trying to figure out how much someone would bid for a lobster dinner they might have to drive a minimum of 700 miles, ONE WAY, to collect?
Let's see, the fuel, the lodging there, on the way down and back, the tourist card, the insurance...........carry the 2, divide by 2
dinners...........
You think the bidding would be fast and furious? I'm thinking the Charthouse on my nickel and a 100.00 donation to Doug would be cheaper and more
effective.
You see, the problem with this FUN little idea of an auction is that when it is done and Doug gets the proceeds, the expenses of Nomads continue. So,
now we organize another one?.........and another? What if future ones do poorly? The expenses still continue.
Donations trickling in here and there when DavidK decides to request it? PULLLEEAAZZE!!!! It's an honorable thing he's doing, but...............
I like the idea of businesses supporting Nomads on a predictable basis with a predictable amount.
Nomads like to support businesses they hear good things about here, right?
San Ignacio B & B, B. A. B & B, all of Graham's books, Baja Cactus Motel, FDT's tours, etc. Problem is; why shouldn't Doug reap some reward
for likely increasing sales for these businesses?
How about a BUSINESS membership to Nomads that has an annual fee? Business members are then allowed to promote their services on the boards at will.
Heck, some already do, so it's not like it would be a radical difference. 
Or maybe create a business directory board where people can pose questions to the owners, make reservations, etc. They can do logos, publish coupons,
whatever. Declare the regular boards off limits to business owner's promoting their OWN businesses. Regular members comments and recommendations
about businesses would be allowed.
I've seen this model work on other boards....why not here? It's not really re-inventing the wheel.
[Edited on 9-25-2008 by Hook]
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