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dianaji
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sattelite for computer
i have a chance to get hughes 7000 sattelite for using the computer. is there anyone savvy that i can chat with as i am so non-tech.
thanks, diana
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Diver
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It's a good option if you can't get DSL or local broadband service.
These will normally be cheaper and faster.
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dianaji
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problem is there is no electricity on the property AND no internet service*sigh* the price is $400 for the satellite and modem.
thanks, diana
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Pescador
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Try LosFrailes@hughes.net he is a certified installer and has a setup that works perfect for 12 volt hookups. I had a setup that he developed on
the beach at San Lucas Cove and it worked perfectly with solar.
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dianaji
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
Try LosFrailes@hughes.net he is a certified installer and has a setup that works perfect for 12 volt hookups. I had a setup that he developed on
the beach at San Lucas Cove and it worked perfectly with solar. |
thank u. i will contact him. is he near la mision?
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Diver
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Sounds like a good price.
Los Frailles can probably install it for you if needed.
(losfrailes@hughes.net)
What are you doing for power ?
Did you get set up with solar ?
Generator ?
Oops, beat me to it !!
He is south of you but does travel to do iinstalls.
[Edited on 9-25-2008 by Diver]
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dianaji
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already sent him an email.
i would love solar, but not able to afford it. am looking for a liquid propane generator...so, nope, no power. living in the dark...
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12 VDC No Problem
I'm running my HN modem with a 150-watt inverter. Four years, no problem, but I do power off when not in use.
At one time, I was considering a different power source since EVERYONE said to leave the modem on so that the connection wouldn't be lost.
To test that premise, I simply powered off everytime, even when I would leave for days at a time. Reacquired each time. No longer than a couple of
minutes EVER.
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I have the Hughes Net system and turn it off every night with no problems. By the way, Los Frailes installed my system too.
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Dave
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Whaa?
| Quote: | Originally posted by dianaji
problem is there is no electricity on the property |
Where in La Mision is your property? Are you on the south bluffs or north up the mountain? How close is the nearest power pole? Seems odd that you
don't have access to electric. Do your neighbors have power?
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dianaji
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a few do, however, they are working on it, and they are not in any hurry. i am up the mountain. the power pole is about 4 or 5 lots away.*sigh*
so, anyway, looking for a generator. any suggestions?
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by dianaji
a few do, however, they are working on it, and they are not in any hurry. i am up the mountain. the power pole is about 4 or 5 lots away.*sigh*
so, anyway, looking for a generator. any suggestions? |
I would visit the electric company and ask about getting service. You might be surprised. To set up a generator with battery storage will cost large
dollars. Would seem a waste if you'll soon get service.
Question: Did you know the lot wasn't grid connected before you moved in the dbl-wide?
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I think you will find Dave has the answer, If you can't do it yourself hire FDT to come over and do it for you. Cheap in the long run.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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dianaji
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by dianaji
a few do, however, they are working on it, and they are not in any hurry. i am up the mountain. the power pole is about 4 or 5 lots away.*sigh*
so, anyway, looking for a generator. any suggestions? |
I would visit the electric company and ask about getting service. You might be surprised. To set up a generator with battery storage will cost large
dollars. Would seem a waste if you'll soon get service.
Question: Did you know the lot wasn't grid connected before you moved in the dbl-wide? |
i knew it and it is still well worth the $$ i paid. that's how much i want to be there, that i would give up lights, computer, etc.
there are neighbors that are working on getting it in that have some influence and have been working on the problem...
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dianaji
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by dianaji
a few do, however, they are working on it, and they are not in any hurry. i am up the mountain. the power pole is about 4 or 5 lots away.*sigh*
so, anyway, looking for a generator. any suggestions? |
I would visit the electric company and ask about getting service. You might be surprised. To set up a generator with battery storage will cost large
dollars. Would seem a waste if you'll soon get service.
Question: Did you know the lot wasn't grid connected before you moved in the dbl-wide? |
i am doing my best to be patient... i was thinking that if i got a generator, perhaps i might be more well off not having an electric bill...but then
i don't know about these things. i am learning!
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Running a generator for power is not practical in the long run without batteries.
You would need to run iit anytime you need power.
IF you have a propane refrig; otherwise 24 hours a day.
To avoid running the thing all day, you would need a bank of batteries and these cost big bucks and have limited life.
Plus the fuel for the generator will cost more than a normal electric bill - and you'll have to go get it !
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dianaji
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Diver
Running a generator for power is not practical in the long run without batteries.
You would need to run iit anytime you need power.
IF you have a propane refrig; otherwise 24 hours a day.
To avoid running the thing all day, you would need a bank of batteries and these cost big bucks and have limited life.
Plus the fuel for the generator will cost more than a normal electric bill - and you'll have to go get it ! |
thank u...these are the things i need to know...however, i was trying to get a propane generator and they deliver propane
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Keri
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Diana, Just a little tip
Mike and I found rechargeable florescent lights at Ensenada Costco for our place in San Quintin. We turned everyone there on to them . They are
$20.00 a piece ,we bought 5 . We have 2 in the bedroom and 1 in the living room. We rotate the other 2. We recharge with the generator when we have
it on . They are about 2 feet long and 3 inches wide. Put out great light. They may work well for you at night,k
[Edited on 9-27-2008 by Keri]
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dianaji
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perhaps i am rethinking about a generator, as per the advice today on this forum. maybe i can hold out till electricity comes in... so, with those
lights, can they be recharged with regular electricity?
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I don't know the current cost of propane in Baja. Assuming that it is 60 cents per pound, that pound will contain about 21,600 BTU or 6.3
kiloWatt-hours (thermal energy - not electrical energy). Small generators running at about 80 percent of their maximum rating will convert only 10
percent of that thermal energy to electrical energy. So that means you will be paying 60 cents for 0.63 kW-hr of electrical. That comes out to be 95
cents per kW hour. I assume that the Mexican electrical power costs about 10 cents per kW-hr.
The whole solar-batteries-inverters-generators installation is very expensive when you try to use it for your primary power needs. Assuming you'd use
only 10 kW-hrs a day (therefore, no electric heating, no electric dryer, no AC, no electric stove/oven, ) but (using lights judiciously, small fans,
TV, computer, small refrigerator, small microwave, electric coffee pot) I'd make a very rough guess that you'd need to invest either $3500 for a
simple generator battery inverter system and $5500 if you include solar. Solar is best for topping off the storage batteries and can save money on
propane and batteries due to life extension. (There's the additional cost of eventually replacing all of these components when they wear out)
Notice that this system only supplies the equivalent of $30 electricity per month so that it will take you 8 to 12 years to break even.
All of these are rough estimates, but I think you see that the power company is the way to go.
Short term fo satisfy the internet use, you can buy a car battery and take it to a neighbor to charge every day (pay them 10 cents a day for the
power) and you can use it to power an inverter to run your internet for about 4 hours a day. Your cost will be about $120 for this system depending
on which inverter you get. Oh, and you'll need a battery charger if a neighbor doesn't have one. The charger will need to charge at at least 10
amps. You could also run one of those curly fluorescent light bulbs for a couple of hours off this same battery/inverter.
Also I assume you know their is a monthly charge for the Satellite Internet service. I think it's about $60/month. It depends on your speed and
total date transferred.
I'm not on the forum very often, but I'll try to check back in a day or so.
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