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Woooosh
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Ak-47 gunfire and a dead body by my house in Rosarito... not good
The police are still here- everywhere.
At about 8am I heard the rapid AK-47 gunfire. I didn't see the victim or the shooter. It was about 20 rapid shots- very loud- echoing off the
buildings. A group of surfers were changing into wetsuits in front of my house and that 's the first clue I had that this was very very close. They
dove over the seawall and ran for cover- they left their stuff, car doors open and everything. They just ran. They saw the body laying in the street
in front of my neighbors door- I couldn't see it as it was around the side entrance. My neighbor is scared to death. He opened his door to see the
body laying at his doorstep before any police were on the scene. He ran to our house in case the gunmen came back. No one even went near the house
or body- including us. First aid is out of the question I guess- no point being next if they come back to finish him off.
If this country is going to survive- it better do something soon.
[Edited on 12-12-2008 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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David K
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RUN FORREST RUN!
Be safe and get the heck away!!
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woody with a view
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what part of town is this?
the paper said this morning that a high up police commander was found dead in his vehicle on the toll road in the northern part of Rosey-rita. also,
two more headless bodies on the road from tecate to mexicali.....
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Woooosh
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This is downtown Rosarito Beach- Paseo del Mar. About halfway between the power plant and downtown Rosarito.
The body is still there. He must have been on foot.
It was amazing how quiet it was after the shooting. Not a scream, not a dog bark- nothing for about 10 minutes when the police convoy came. We just
watched from our veranda and balcony. It was surreal.
[Edited on 12-12-2008 by Woooosh]
[Edited on 12-12-2008 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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DENNIS
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Life on the front lines. How nice. Ernie Pyle could have forged a career in Rosarito.
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k-rico
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From KPBS - San Diego
"The Arellano Felix Cartel’s geography in Tijuana has shifted. Looking at the quantity of killings in the city’s east and to the south in Rosarito,
you see where the cartel’s strongholds are.
Historically, some of the most violent episodes of the drug war were concentrated in Tijuana’s upper-middle and upper class neighborhoods in the
city’s center. However, with this most recent wave of violence we see that Tijuana’s east and Rosarito are the hot zones.
The number of deaths in middle and working class areas of Tijuana illustrate the city’s drug consumption problem. Part of “El Teo’s” strategy to take
over drug trafficking in Tijuana, has been to kill neighborhood drug dealers who work for the Arellano Felix Cartel. By plotting these deaths, the map
shows how pervasive drug dealing has become in these areas and, therefore, how prevalent consumption is.
The map helps track the unprecedented brutality of this battle in the drug war. By keeping count of people who’ve been decapitated; dissolved in acid;
minors caught up in the violence and police killed we see that cartels have reached a new level of gruesomeness and disregard for life.
Tourists apparently are not targets in this drug war. Looking at the map, tourist areas are not hot spots.
A look at victims’ ages shows an important percentage are thirty and under. Dozens of the dead were still in their teens. Also, many people police
have detained in this recent wave of violence, and who police accuse of being important players in the drug trade, are also young."
http://www.kpbs.org/static/2008/border_battle/map.html
[Edited on 12-12-2008 by k-rico]
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ELINVESTIG8R
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http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/12122...
Loose Translation:
ROSARITO, Baja California (PH)
A young man was gunned down for about half an hour in the center of the town of Rosarito.
According to initial reports it was a man between 20 and 25 years old, who was on the street Villa de las Fuentes of the municipality.
According to witnesses, a group of armed persons on board a gray vehicle pickup opened fire on this person.
At the site were found some 25 shell casings from a weapon known as "Cuerno de Chivo"
Municipal Police officers, as well as the Ministerial are guarding the area.
Relatives of the victim and arrived at the scene and it is expected that in a few more minutes to identify the victim.
Note Published: 12/12/2008 09:14
Accompanying photo:
[Edited on 12-12-2008 by ELINVESTI8]
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Dave
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How many hours did it take for the police to show up? 
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Woooosh
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Well- The police JUST came to the door.
They had a closeup of the face of the victim to show me on their digital camera. We recognized him as a young man who used to run every morning on
the beach. We didn't know his name.
[Edited on 12-12-2008 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Woooosh
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I'm going to go back and edit my posts- based on a U2U from a helpful nomad. Sorry about the mess on the thread.
[Edited on 12-12-2008 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/12122...
Loose Translation:
ROSARITO, Baja California (PH)
A young man was gunned down for about half an hour in the center of the town of Rosarito.
According to initial reports it was a man between 20 and 25 years old, who was on the street Villa de las Fuentes of the municipality.
According to witnesses, a group of armed persons on board a gray vehicle pickup opened fire on this person.
At the site were found some 25 shell casings from a weapon known as "Cuerno de Chivo"
Municipal Police officers, as well as the Ministerial are guarding the area.
Relatives of the victim and arrived at the scene and it is expected that in a few more minutes to identify the victim.
Note Published: 12/12/2008 09:14 |
Yup- that's the shooting near my house!
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Barry A.
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If citizens/witnesses don't aggressively cooperate, both with the Police and with each other, then the Police are almost helpless---------citizen
cooperation is the paramount tool the Police have. As long as the citizenry don't take a stand and help the Police and each other, then the situation
will just get worse and worse, in my opinion.
What a trajedy!!!!
Barry
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
They had a closeup of the face of the victim to show me on their digital camera. We recognized him as a young man who used to run every morning on
the beach. We didn't know his name. |
I've often fantasized about shooting one of them health nuts. Guess someone beat me to it.
And more good news:
The surfers probably won't be back.
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gnukid
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Whoosh I am sorry this happened.
When I am aware of crime, I know that we can easily find the culprits due to the geography in Baja. There is no place to go and hide. Its not at all
hard to follow tracks, to find a vehicle in order to find the perpetrators though in this case as in so many others no one wants to find the culprits,
no one is going to look and no one is going to pursue it.
They are not after you.
So...
I encourage you to take the opportunity to go visit some friends away elsewhere for a vacation. Perhaps when you return things will have changed...
either way its time for break from the action, no?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
If citizens/witnesses don't aggressively cooperate, both with the Police and with each other, then the Police are almost helpless---------citizen
cooperation is the paramount tool the Police have. As long as the citizenry don't take a stand and help the Police and each other, then the situation
will just get worse and worse, in my opinion.
What a trajedy!!!!
Barry |
I agree, Barry. Unfortunatly, we can't understand the distrust Mexican citizens have for the police. To most of them, it's incomprehensible to
confide in the law. They never know who they're talking to.
I admire your mindset on this issue although I think it was formed in a different place with your law enforcement background.
Thanks.
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LancairDriver
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
They had a closeup of the face of the victim to show me on their digital camera. We recognized him as a young man who used to run every morning on
the beach. We didn't know his name. |
I've often fantasized about shooting one of them health nuts. Guess someone beat me to it.
And more good news:
The surfers probably won't be back. |
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LancairDriver
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Careful- Someone may have the same fantasies regarding sedentary old goats.
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DENNIS
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It's hard to believe that this was a random act.
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Dave
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Nah...
| Quote: | Originally posted by LancairDriver
Careful- Someone may have the same fantasies regarding sedentary old goats. |
Not worried.
I'm too gamey.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
If citizens/witnesses don't aggressively cooperate, both with the Police and with each other, then the Police are almost helpless---------citizen
cooperation is the paramount tool the Police have. As long as the citizenry don't take a stand and help the Police and each other, then the situation
will just get worse and worse, in my opinion.
What a trajedy!!!!
Barry |
The tragedy is that only 4% of the police are clean enough to trust. How do I kow if I'm giving helpful info to the "bad guys" and not he "good
guys". Truth is, no one knows who is clean enough to trust- so no one talks. I know two people by name that were closer to this shooting than I was
and both said to the police they saw nothing.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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