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Woooosh
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Anyone catch the Baja slam on the ABC evening news last night?
They told the story of the surfer couple who had their RV shot up and the lady sexually assaulted.
They interviewed a lady in San Diego who paid a $2 Million dollar ranson for the returnof her TJ Pharmacist husband in 2006- and he has still not been
released.
They told how the FBI was now saying innocent Americans, with no ties whatsoever to the drug trade, were the target of kidnap and extortion gangs.
Luckily this story ran at the same time as the Chargers game-so no one noticed. (I think the Chargers had a 20-something point lead then- so I was
flipping channels)
[Edited on 12-29-2008 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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teadust
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Didn't see it on TV, but it's posted on their website:
ABC News: Kidnappers Target Americans in Baja
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Woooosh
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I forgot the best part-- a commerical for Rosarito Beach tourism ran right after it.
Talk about wasted money and bad timing.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Bajahowodd
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I saw the story. In the end, it didn't seem to have a point. Good thing nothing like that ever happens North of the border, huh?
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That's a good point.
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fdt
That's a good point. |
You guys would pee on my leg and tell me it's raining.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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Bajahowodd
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Depends. How tall are you?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
I saw the story. In the end, it didn't seem to have a point. Good thing nothing like that ever happens North of the border, huh?
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It does.............and they report on it.
Nothing wrong with reporting on it happening down there, too, right?
Do you actually think the per capita level of kidnappings in Baja is similar to the US? 
I dont..........but I guess factual comparisons are impossible when victims in Baja are reluctant to notify the authorities because:
a) they're incompetent
b) they're complicit
I'm thinking 50 American kidnappings in the last two years might be considered a "point".
Have a nice flight to the Cabo airport........................we'll let you know when they start hijacking commercial airliners and it might actually
affect you.
[Edited on 12-29-2008 by Hook]
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Bajahowodd
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Actually, Mr. Hook, I rarely fly to Cabo. Too much to enjoy, making the drive.
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I too prefer the drive to Loreto & Cabo. I like the options of 'discovering" new experiences. However, last trip, I was more attentive to autos
traveling behind me, and potential autos in front of me that might be driving suspiciously. (alright. who is going to be the first one to ask me to
describe suspiciously? and be prepared to not 'get an answer'.!!!!!!!!
I won't drive through TJ anymore, after seventeen years of using tj for my access to Baja. Now I use Tecate both directions. I'm off the road by 4
p.m. at the latest. And don't leave until about an hour after sunrise next morning. Paranoid? Yeah, I guess so. I haven't protected this ole 74
year old carcass all these years for 'nada'!!!!! Nor do I plan on ceasing my trips via auto because of the drug cartels & doped up people out
there. Same applies for driving in the states!!!!!!!
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If it Bleeds, it Leads.
Today, the cable news kept recycling the killings in TIA JUANA over the weekend and described the town as controlled by the Drug Cartels. Americans
are crazy to go there. Or, so they said.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Phil S
I too prefer the drive to Loreto & Cabo. I like the options of 'discovering" new experiences. However, last trip, I was more attentive to autos
traveling behind me, and potential autos in front of me that might be driving suspiciously. (alright. who is going to be the first one to ask me to
describe suspiciously? and be prepared to not 'get an answer'.!!!!!!!!
I won't drive through TJ anymore, after seventeen years of using tj for my access to Baja. Now I use Tecate both directions. I'm off the road by 4
p.m. at the latest. And don't leave until about an hour after sunrise next morning. Paranoid? Yeah, I guess so. I haven't protected this ole 74
year old carcass all these years for 'nada'!!!!! Nor do I plan on ceasing my trips via auto because of the drug cartels & doped up people out
there. Same applies for driving in the states!!!!!!! |
RIGHT ON, PHIL S. I applaud you!!!
Barry
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Today, the cable news kept recycling the killings in TIA JUANA over the weekend and described the town as controlled by the Drug Cartels. Americans
are crazy to go there. Or, so they said. |
If you are implying that TIA JUANA is incorrect- the jury is still out. Something about an Aunt Jane's ranch being here back in the old days or
something...
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After reading Phils report I'm thinking of taking Tecate when I make my trip this spring. Has there been any problems on the road to Ensenada via
Tecate? There are some lonely stretches. I've never taken it south and only a few times north.
Either that or cross the TJ border during daylight hours and hopefully caravaning with someone that is headed south at least past Ensenada.
Have there been in problems in Ensenada? I usually stop there for a night either to or form or both.
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By Implication
Of COURSE, that's what I'm implying and the jury isn't out. The CURRENT name of the town IS: Tijuana. Regardless of its historical origins.
I don't know how many times I've watched a News Gringo on TV say "Tiajuana" only to have the Mexican he was talking to reply with a sharp "Tijuana" to
make the point. The News guy always ignored it and kept saying "Tia".
Along those lines, I am also irritated when I hear a U.S. News Flack pronounce Pinochet as "Pino-shay" as if he were French. The most laughable
instance was a documentary on the General where the news people would consistently say "shay" and the Chileans being interviewed would consistently
say "chet".
How hard is it to get this stuff right ?
[Edited on 12-30-2008 by MrBillM]
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Of COURSE, that's what I'm implying and the jury isn't out. The CURRENT name of the town IS: Tijuana. Regardless of its historical origins.
I don't know how many times I've watched a News Gringo on TV say "Tiajuana" only to have the Mexican he was talking to reply with a sharp "Tijuana" to
make the point. The News guy always ignored it and kept saying "Tia".
Along those lines, I am also irritated when I hear a U.S. News Flack pronounce Pinochet as "Pino-shay" as if he were French. The most laughable
instance was a documentary on the General where the news people would consistently say "shay" and the Chileans being interviewed would consistently
say "chet".
How hard is it to get this stuff right ?
[Edited on 12-30-2008 by MrBillM] |
OK. But if you were to start a new thread "Tia-juana or Ti-juana" it would never end.
We still call native americans "Indians" and that was 400 years ago when some explorer was lost. And I took hate it when a news anchor decides to
pronounce a word in foreign accents in the middle of an english sentence or when TV Chefs use the "real" italian words for their ingredients. IT just
makes them look like boors. tres gauche. oops.
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Personally, I still prefer the TJ route on the cuota road. It's not like you have to drive through miles of city streets. The Tecate route does
involve a whole lot of rural driving. As for the Otay crossers, it seems to me that the east part of TJ, including the area near Blvd 2000 is teeming
with the bad guys. I just think that sticking with the crowd along the border fence to the cuota road is potentially safer and faster. That being
said, I do not cringe while passing through, and have spent a great deal of time in Ensenada the past few years, never feeling threatened.
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According to the last reports I've seen from FDT (pretty reliable I'd think), we are to avoid the Blvd 2000 especially after dark due to
construction/little to no light...or I could have it wrong...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Today, the cable news kept recycling the killings in TIA JUANA over the weekend and described the town as controlled by the Drug Cartels. Americans
are crazy to go there. Or, so they said. |
yes, i am crazy. i'm gonna work on it this coming year. if you know me, don't get your hopes too high for any noticeable progress.....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by AcuDoc
Have there been in problems in Ensenada? I usually stop there for a night either to or form or both. |
Interesting Thread. I live here in Ensenada and we just don't seem to have the problems as they have in TJ (or should I not say Tia Juanna), but TJ is
the tip of the funnel. I now use the Otay crossing and there is a new HWY that takes you around the southern edge of TJ and it dumps you out just
south of the Fox Studios.
I too take note of who is driving in front and the rear, and we do our best to travel only during the Day, but at times we need to drive at night. But
yea,,,,so far all is good down here in Ensenada.
[Edited on 1-16-2009 by EnseNADAslim]
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