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AspenMeadowRanch
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Clam and Shrimp guns
Good Morning All
We will be leaving February 1st for our first trip down to Baja and the Mulege area.Up North here on the coast I used a shrimp gun to catch Sand
Shrimp for bait for fishing.Do you have sand shrimp there and should I bring it ?
I also used Clam guns to suck up the clams .Will that work down there, and what is the season for them?
Thanks, Have a good day
See you all soon
John& Rita
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mulegemichael
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leave the guns home; they'll be useless to you down here...the clams are found about 1" under the sand...no sand shrimp...bring down a little hand
held garden scratcher for the clams; that's all you'll need..
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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Skipjack Joe
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There are ghost shrimps in the lagoons of the pacific side of baja. I have never used them in either the states or in baja but have seen others use
them. Specifically at Laguna Manuela.
I'm sure they make great bait but as the man said the fishing is so good you really don't need to go to all this trouble.
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Bajahowodd
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Ah. The beautiful coast of Montana.
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David K
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I watched ghost shrimp being sucked up (for bait) by one of those 'guns' south of San Felipe... surprisingly effective!
The butter clams are right on the surface or just under... at the end of the track they leave at low tide. Of course the taking of any live shellfish
by non-Mexicans is illegal (clams, lobsters, crabs) and must be purchased from locals.
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mulegemichael
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yeah, that's right...i don't know ANYONE down here that harvests clams...good one, david
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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David K
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Yah, an insider joke... right along with the maximum speed of 80 kph, and beach driving south of San Felipe! Let those without sin cast the first
stone!
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Yah, an insider joke... right along with the maximum speed of 80 kph, and beach driving south of San Felipe! Let those without sin cast the first
stone! |
But driving does not take away the means of financial support from the locals---
Diane
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AspenMeadowRanch
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So from what I am hearing even with a Fishing license I will not be able to clam, and use my crab traps down there.is this Correct?
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Udo
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You are correct AMR, however, good luck in getting caught. There is no one around to enforce the regulations, such as the DFG in the US who seem to be
everywhere in the US.
Udo
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jdtrotter
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Yah, an insider joke... right along with the maximum speed of 80 kph, and beach driving south of San Felipe! Let those without sin cast the first
stone! |
But driving does not take away the means of financial support from the locals---
Diane |
There really are beaches in Baja that have clams and NOBODY is anywhere near there, for miles and miles... really!
Yes, the purpose of the rule is to conserve some industry for locals (where there are locals) and I fully support dealing with locals to buy shellfish
or go boat fishing... like Juan at Bahia Asuncion!
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woody with a view
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this one existed
and it was awesome.... IF there was a local, there was but why would they drive 25 miles each way just to dig out some clams for us and share our
refrescos? well we'd just be typical gringos and share what we had with them and then over pay for their services that day.
instead we fend for ourselves because no one else is there to care.... why would you?
[Edited on 1-16-2009 by woody in ob]
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woody with a view
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folks
life is short...enjoy some of it occasionally...hell, indulge once in awhile!
NO ONE IS INNOCENT!!!!!!!
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
I eat the clams I dig up......they are still just as plentiful as when I first did it.
Yum....... |
Guess to keep things fair, I need to pick on you and Woody so DK doesn't feel alone.
I do hope you enjoyed the clams. If anyone is willing to pay the price if caught, then they are free to break the law. Heck Camus even felt is was
OK to kill his mother, if it was right for everyone. The Stranger was such a good book and covered all situations like this so well.
John, bottom line is ---it is illegal, but some do it anyway. So to be consistent, they must believe it is OK for everyone to do same.
Also, do remember that this is a forum only, nothing more---not to be taken seriously, IMHO. I sure don't
Diane
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bajaguy
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Getting back to clams........I like mine with butter and garlic
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bombero
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"Illegal"
Having been a been to Baja many times since 1975 I have been guilty of having a few "Illegal" shellfish dinners. I broke the Law. However I brake the
Law every time I visit Baja by bringing clothes,shoes, tools,household appliances, and many other things to needy friends and strangers. A few seafood
dinners----------a few hundred pounds of needed clothing tools household items, a few broken laws, a lot of happy people! I try to give back to Baja
far more than I take.
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Russ
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bombero ~~ Exactly!
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AspenMeadowRanch
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Baja Nomads
I am sorry about causing such a up roar.I do not no the laws there.All I did was ask a simple question,I am 1450 miles from the boarder.
I am 54 years old, had 4 back operations.I was bed ridden for years.If it wasn't for help from my family I would have been homeless living on the
streets.I am not on Social Security Disability.We sold our home and purchased a drug infusion system implanted in my body.( $27,000)
Yes , I still have my aches and pains but I thank God for another shot at life,, being able to walk and enjoy life again. I try to be positive,
polite and do not complain.There are others out there who are still bed ridden.I scratch out a living the best I can. We have been saving up and
planing this trip for years.If gas prices were not so low we could not do this trip.
Because of all this , I am a more compassionate person and contribute to society. I feel I am a better better person.
Due to my health ,What ever I do is on a limited basis. You do not have to worry about me raping and pillaging the environment and taking income away
from the locals.
John
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BajaRob
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I'm
with Terry, steamed with butter and garlic. I thought that was what this thread was about. What's with the personal attacks?
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bombero
Having been a been to Baja many times since 1975 I have been guilty of having a few "Illegal" shellfish dinners. I broke the Law. However I brake the
Law every time I visit Baja by bringing clothes,shoes, tools,household appliances, and many other things to needy friends and strangers. A few seafood
dinners----------a few hundred pounds of needed clothing tools household items, a few broken laws, a lot of happy people! I try to give back to Baja
far more than I take. |
OK, guilty but to me there are a few ways of looking at a law--
1. Yes, it is a law that is good for society at all times even if it was not written.
2. Yes it is a law that is good for society, but mainly for others.
3. Yes, it is a law that if good for society, except under certain circumstances, the circumstances selected by the offender. But others should
follow the law.
4. It is a law that either does not make any sense OK that no one pays any intention to it. Condition that for one to break that law they must
believe that it is OK for EVERYONE to break that law at all times.
5. A really unjust law that should be activitly protested.
Everyone, IMHO, is inconsistent at times, but I have the most trouble with number 3---and the least trouble with number 4.
So if I was to believe that the illegal taking of shell fish was ok, I would believe that the taking of shell fish for everyone was ok everywhere and
under all circumstances.
None of this is absolute, of course, because number 4 and number 5 involve lots of different perspectives of fair and unjust.
JMHO
Diane
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